Any Good PVP Forums?
The qqers tend to scare us away from making constructive posts.
Am I good?… I’m good.
^troo
official forms just kinda tend to be like that though. I like 3rd party sites better. Less trolls, and nobody expecting devs to pay attention to their crap posts.
Someone should open a real constructive forum:
- You have to apply for posting rights
- Applying for posting right requires the new member to send a PM in this forum to a moderator of said new forum
- The moderator/two moderators will then take a look at your posting history. If they think the person is posting reasonable then the person gets posting rights
- Otherwise they will get rejected and cannot apply for posting rights for the next 6 months. During that time they have to prove in the public forum that they changed their posting mentally
Otherwise you will always get posters which are mostly saying ‘L2P’ or similar things, even if someone is constructivily explaining why something is OP/UP. Hell in these forums here, someone would say L2P or ‘L2Dodge’ even if GW2 would have a mini nuke which will deal 1m armor ignoring damage with 10s cooldown.
Otherwise you will always get posters which are mostly saying ‘L2P’ or similar things, even if someone is constructivily explaining why something is OP/UP. Hell in these forums here, someone would say L2P or ‘L2Dodge’ even if GW2 would have a mini nuke which will deal 1m armor ignoring damage with 10s cooldown.
How is constructively complain about balance? When it comes to taking damage, every class has a way of avoiding it with dodging. Since anet will never take balance advice from the player base the only thing players can tell each other is how to deal with the problem. Unfortunately, most of the problems that get posted here are trivial and, in fact, solved by dodging correctly. Each of these threads has been posted several times and forum regulars get tired of explaining things over and over.
You’re under the impression that you’re some kind of paragon of reason and integrity and there should be a forum full of people just like you. Sorry, pal, you’re a meowing kittyface too, so stop acting like the problems with this forum are because of other people, because we’re all those people from time to time.
Biggest problem with your position? There’s plenty of constructive posts here. You can tell because they’re tl;dr.
Edit: I looked at some of your posts and you don’t seem like a loathsome kittymeow. I hope you can accept my heartfelt apology. I think what upsets you is that you put thought into your posts and you don’t receive validation from the devs.
I fight people, sometimes they kill me, sometimes I kill them. Fun is had by all. [/quote]
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http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/69-the-colosseum-pvp-discussion/
It’s the only 3rd party forum that has a focus on PvP (that isn’t completely dead) that I know of. Sometimes you can find stuff on AJ but that ones pretty slow.
Esportsgaming.net will be relaunching soon with a big focus on forums, so be sure to stay tuned for that!
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I dont think peoole realize how few actually care or pvp seriously. there’s no playerbase for dedicated forums the ones that did exist died just like the streams due to lack of population. the fanboys will try to tell you otherwise but its just proof. funny part is even rift has an outside pvp forum that gets more action than gw2guru spvp section lol.
The QQ in this forum is unjustified? The most hyped PvP MMO ever started off by selling 3 million plus copies and touting itself as “the fastest selling mmo of all time” now has less than 5 active PvP teams and they had to shut down 8 team tournaments because they wouldn’t pop.
These “armchair devs” told them from the start that paid tournaments for tokens and 8 teams needed for each tournament to start and having solo querers and pre-mades lumped together was a terrible idea. They later realized it, albeit way to late. So if only the real devs would have listened to the armchair variety.
Also, I’m telling you now that custom arenas as currently being developed will not work and will be a total flop. There is nothing custom about them and they expect us to pay for the right to password protect a private lobby with almost 0 customization? That would have worked within the first month when interest was high from outside sponsors. They would have held tournaments for prizes. There are currently no interested sponsors so who pays for them? I’ll give you a hint, it rhymes with nobody.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t justified, I’m just tired of reading it. Despite everything, I actually like playing this game’s pvp, and I like reading constructive posts that help me improve.
The QQ in this forum is unjustified? The most hyped PvP MMO ever started off by selling 3 million plus copies and touting itself as “the fastest selling mmo of all time” now has less than 5 active PvP teams and they had to shut down 8 team tournaments because they wouldn’t pop.
These “armchair devs” told them from the start that paid tournaments for tokens and 8 teams needed for each tournament to start and having solo querers and pre-mades lumped together was a terrible idea. They later realized it, albeit way to late. So if only the real devs would have listened to the armchair variety.
Also, I’m telling you now that custom arenas as currently being developed will not work and will be a total flop. There is nothing custom about them and they expect us to pay for the right to password protect a private lobby with almost 0 customization? That would have worked within the first month when interest was high from outside sponsors. They would have held tournaments for prizes. There are currently no interested sponsors so who pays for them? I’ll give you a hint, it rhymes with nobody.
Speculation (all hypothetical/theorycrafting):
Entry fee tournies are going to be the norm for awhile ($10 per player x8 teams =$400 prize pool = $250 1st place, $100 2nd place, $50 3rd place). The 2 main organizations that SEEM interested right now in hosting GW2 tournies are Curse and EsportsGaming. If entry fee based tournaments succeed in generating at least some interest in PvP -atleast around 1k viewers per event, then these organizations MAY begin to sponsor larger tournaments.
The great thing about custom games/spectator mode is that the community driven people will finally have at least some tools to promote sPvP and try to suck back in all the people that quit. A product is only going to stay popular if it can keep it’s consumers happy and hyped up, anet’s marketing team has been unsuccessful with reaching their audience and promoting the game (the official anet youtube channel created in 2008 has < 70k subs, zenimax online studios channel created < 5 months ago has > 50k subs, riot games channel created 4 years ago has 3.4 million subs), giving marketing power to the players and people who actually have success in this industry (gamers with large followings) is a step in the right direction as far as marketing is concerned. To add emphasis to my point; I’m pretty sure angryjoe on youtube had a larger impact on the sales of this game than the official marketing team did.
Now, that’s just the tip of the iceberg, and you’re probably right in stating that custom games/tourneys will fail to bring back most people; the main thing that I think needs to be improved in sPvP is watchability, watching sPvP doesn’t make me want to play the game, and that’s because it’s impossible to follow wtf is going on without cast-bars, a crappy minimap, and limited information being displayed in general (can’t see numbers on enemy HP bar, can’t see resources for many classes like how much init a thief has, cant even see how many enemies are at the points where teammates are fighting). The best thing they can do after getting custom games is to just remove this iron curtain from sPvP and make a huge marketing push featuring the new watchability -they have to appeal to big streamers so that they will start to play GW2 again and bring their huge viewer bases with them. -Some popular german girl streamed GW2 last weekend for the new adventure box and it put us on the front page of twitch with over 2k viewers.
TLDR; there are many people in the community that will not give up on the success of this game and it’s spvp, so don’t give up on them. The main thing that will bring back ppl is marketing, best way to do this is to improve watchability so that big streamers will play the game (in the interest of entertaining their followers) and get the game on the front page of twitch, which will bring all the peeps back.
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