Guild Wars 2

I mean. Maybe I’m missing something. lol

The aoe burn stacking is … yeah. I mean, really..

It’s just burns in general that is op atm, not really burn guards per se. They’re actually quite easy to play against.

Most burn guards have high cooldowns. Once you survive the burst you can force them in defense and kill them rather easily

Generosity Sigils are your friends.

While burn guards take no skill they’re not as unhealthy for the game as d/d ele because at least they have no mobility (JI doesn’t count as real mobility, I’m talking about swiftness and non-target escapes).

Yes, it’s the burns not the proffesion…Guards are OK.

Nier.8741:

While burn guards take no skill they’re not as unhealthy for the game as d/d ele because at least they have no mobility (JI doesn’t count as real mobility, I’m talking about swiftness and non-target escapes).

It indeed takes no skill to unleash the burst, but you need skill if your target isnt down within 20s :P

Compared to eles, burn guards are a joke.

they are very straightforward to fight, but are punishing if you are too reckless. a fun match up i think.

I find them incredibly easy targets…. but then again I play a cele necro with double generosity sigils…..

Not even a little bit. If you are having trouble with burn guards start using generosity sigils and watch them eat their own burns.

A burn guardian have lesser defences than the dps guardian, with only a single burst attack to take you down. Survive the first 5 seconds of burst cleaning burn or evanding/blocking/blinging the attacks and you’r fight will be easy to win.

Then, there’s some good guardians that can kill you anyway, but more or less every burn guardianyou find is a bad one that try to win with the “OP” build of the moment.

The only moment I find hard to fight them is when I find 3 burn guarda at the same time, bale to stack a very high burn damage AoE.
But with a skilled and balanced team it’s not a big problem. Always lesser than if they was direct damage.

The problem is more that there’s 5 class on 8 that can spam burn, making it really dangerous when the enemy stack it AoE.
And the ele, that will be finally nerfed, that can put down that kitten fire field, tht is easy to avoid in 1vs1 but hard to avoid if there’s 2 eles in a 4vs4 fight, where you have to move to stay alive.

From tonight you will see lesser burn in the game, making it lesser dangerous.

Sharky.1470:

Yes, it’s the burns not the proffesion…Guards are OK.

I tried saying this on a DD ele thread once…

Burn guardians are not op, i actually prefer them beeing my opponent over classic bunker or dps. But if there are two or more of them teamfights can get really ugly!

nope, they are not OP, just like almost nothing else is OP…. but please keep making threads like this, they perfectly show how most ppl in here lack a basic understanding of how this game works.

It is funny how ppl complain about burning but still all run without any condicleans. You just need to adjust a tiny little bit, one small skill changed, and the problem is gone. Meta still doesnt have any condiremove inside (think for example of a mesmer, that has a lot of acces to it). If ppl actually start playing with condiremoves and still have problem with burning, we can talk again. Until that, i can only say, adjust your builds or l2 dodge.

Burn Guardians are only OP if you let the following happen:

• Allow them to Whirl Wrath you and your group. If they land this 3s long attack, you’ll likely have 9+ burn stacks on top of 2.3k raw damage. If it hits 5 people, that’s 15 burn stacks, approximately 3x more dmg than power guard (assuming it doesn’t get immediately cleansed…)
  Guards will try to cleave downed targets.
• Purging Flames + WW – Every hit applies an additional stack of burns. Same as the above.

That’s pretty much it… other than that, we have JI and PF for people to avoid. Mid fights are fun for a burn Guard if he can cleave. Mid fight is Not fun against mobile spread out targets… we would have to do all of our damages through JI and PF..

So yes, Burn Guardians are very OP against class stacking teams who have no clue about burn guardian mechanics.. (i’ve wiped full teams before.. it really should never happen)

They have no mobility or way to escape, and they are pure glass and have super week sustain. learn to survive or avoid the burst, as already stated and then melt them. Bunker guards are much more welcome on my teams and focused on in opposition. Burst Burns are a temp gimmick imo.

once you know how it works, is a joke to deal. in fact i see less and less of them because people are countering them without much problems. It’s just a good build like another.

Burn Guards just have a low barrier to entry. You can pretty easily make a burn guard and do decently well. For many people, playing a burn guard is easier than playing the profession they play most.

Once you know how it works you can counter it, it’s really burning that’s OP atm.

The only thing about them that is anywhere near OP is that the coding for purging flames (and ring of fire) is bugged so teleports through the field burn you.

They can also kill svanir and legacy/SH lords faster than anything else, but that’s more PvE related (can they get cleansing please?). They also do the most damage per game out of nearly any build, usually peaking at over 1 million condition damage per game.

Yet I still think they’re pretty balanced, given that they have a hard counter.

Burn guardian fell behind in power creep ages ago.

There are too many counters available for the build to be meta or even viable, and running burn guard is basically a coin flip whether or not you will melt faces or weigh your team down like an anchor.

Necromancer for example can easily give the guardian back all of his burning with little/no effort.

I can’t believe people are still crying about guardian when it comes to burn…..

They obviously haven’t seen what ele is/was capable of.

It is shocking that ANET still hasn’t fixed burn stacking after 3 months. I seriously question whether the balance team is playing GW2 or WoW.

OMFG NO

BURN GUARDS ARE NOT OP…

well maybe in low tiers… but theyre a joke if you premade vs premade with higher skilled players coz those guys NEVER leave home w/o cleansing.

wanna make ppl peeee in higher tiers? play a condi pu mesmer.

Burn guard is pretty much just a scrub killer. But boy what a beautiful sight when the enemy team is full of scrubs and they are up against a burn guard. 1 burn guard, 3 dead burning bodies.

coz scrubs don’t dodge well and waste cleanses early (AND THATS A HUGE IF….THEY HAVE ANY) and don’t bother learning what the animations are for the hardest hitting (highest stacking) burn skills.

SERIOUSLY IF THEY JUST PRACTICED WHAT I SAID ABOVE BURNING FROM GUARDS will no longer be an issue. Sorry for the capz. I just want people to be less scrubby.

oh noes not another burn guard op thread.

I have a bigger problem with the support altruistic healing guards coz they wont get the heck off my point and have to always issue an eviction notice.

…Such is the life of a slum lord.

Guard OP? No.

Burning? Definitely needs to be toned down.