Xomox ~Human Necro/Engineer ET
AoE Boon Stacking counter?
Classes that AoE boon stack and to a extent that single stack have no real counter.
This is a minor issue in PvP and a gamebreaking one in WvW. There is no punishment no counter to AoE boon stacking. Game needs AoE boon rips to make classes that dont AoE boon stack viable for groups and help develop an actual meta.
Corrupt Boon should be AoE, too strong you say? Hardly it would be useless in against teams that dont boon stack and great vs teams that do. That is balance, that is a counter meta. A choice in team make up and builds based on what the other team is doing…. AoE boon stacking right now has no faults its good no matter the situation there is no drawback to it. Corrupt one target and another AoE clears the conditions then AoE boon stacks everyone… nice balance there Anet.
Just getting sick of this games total lack of options for counter meta building. There is no meta in the game all that changes is team comps based on what class gets nerfed and buffed there are no skills to counter popular team make ups like stability and protection stacking for stomps etc.
Thats my viewpoint as a necro im sure some will not agree.
(note: one necro well skill removes boons but thats on a longer cooldown then boon stackers and people must stand in the well its not instant).
As for anything cool, ask a shatter mesmer.
They get a trait which removes boon on shatter.
Mind Wrack and Cry of Frustation are both AoE.
For range they have Null field which AoE strips one boon per second for 7s.
Well of Corruption converts boons into conditions, but necromancers can’t afford to take it over Corrupt Boon, Epidemic, and Spectral Walk or Signet of Undeath.
Even then, someone would have to stand in Null Field and Well of Corruption to lose more than one or two boons. That limits counter-play since guardians can instantly apply a variety of boons in an AOE with the push of a button.
(edited by Lopez.7369)
AoE boon stripping in WvW just won’t become a possibility against good zergs. The ability of AoE boon application with shouts and combos will always outpace the ability to strip them.
Classes that AoE boon stack and to a extent that single stack have no real counter.
This is a minor issue in PvP and a gamebreaking one in WvW. There is no punishment no counter to AoE boon stacking. Game needs AoE boon rips to make classes that dont AoE boon stack viable for groups and help develop an actual meta.
Corrupt Boon should be AoE, too strong you say? Hardly it would be useless in against teams that dont boon stack and great vs teams that do. That is balance, that is a counter meta. A choice in team make up and builds based on what the other team is doing…. AoE boon stacking right now has no faults its good no matter the situation there is no drawback to it. Corrupt one target and another AoE clears the conditions then AoE boon stacks everyone… nice balance there Anet.
Just getting sick of this games total lack of options for counter meta building. There is no meta in the game all that changes is team comps based on what class gets nerfed and buffed there are no skills to counter popular team make ups like stability and protection stacking for stomps etc.
Thats my viewpoint as a necro im sure some will not agree.
(note: one necro well skill removes boons but thats on a longer cooldown then boon stackers and people must stand in the well its not instant).
Please tell me one class that has no access to BoonAT ALLAnd in a Zerg, all the times you get affected by boon with no options. And that will put class that relied heavy on BOON to be USEFULL becomes USELESS,for example Eles and Guard.
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A counter to AoE boon stacking does not make it useless its a counter to stacking mulitples of the same classes right now you can stack away there is not need for balanced group make up.
GW1 you have a melee heavy team dominating the meta, result caster heavy teams show up, round and round. While the always good team is the skilled balanced team that has people that can deal with multiple types of teams.
GW2 has none of that its boon stacking city, GW1 Necros could rip enchants or a ranger mes could rupt skills before they happened its was skilled play because you were reacting to what the other players were doing.
AoE boon stacking needs a counter not like one AoE boon removing class in a group would stop a stacked group of boon stackers you would need multiple AoE boon removing classes… and that multiple AoE boon removing group would get steam rolled by a balanced group. Right now balanced groups are getting steamrolled by the boon stackers.
Boon stacking is top of the food chain and its faceroll gameplay, there is no counter its bullkitten.
Xomox ~Human Necro/Engineer ET
(edited by Xom.9264)
WvW is large group oriented… because there are not healers, the only real group support are boons… you want to remove supporters? they already sacrifice something so they can take boon skills and be usefull for whole group…
WvW is large group oriented… because there are not healers, the only real group support are boons… you want to remove supporters? they already sacrifice something so they can take boon skills and be usefull for whole group…
AoE boon stripping in WvW just won’t become a possibility against good zergs. The ability of AoE boon application with shouts and combos will always outpace the ability to strip them.
There is your counter sir. People who are real group supporters will find it more rewarding to do their role more effectively when there is counterplay. They still can outpace it. AoE condition removal and boon sharing is rampant and there is no real counterplay.
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WvW is large group oriented… because there are not healers, the only real group support are boons… you want to remove supporters? they already sacrifice something so they can take boon skills and be usefull for whole group…
AoE boon stripping in WvW just won’t become a possibility against good zergs. The ability of AoE boon application with shouts and combos will always outpace the ability to strip them.
There is your counter sir. People who are real group supporters will find it more rewarding to do their role more effectively when there is counterplay. They still can outpace it. AoE condition removal and boon sharing is rampant and there is no real counterplay.
Finally someone that understands, meta and counterplay. Something GW2 needs badly.
Xomox ~Human Necro/Engineer ET