Guild Wars 2

Because I honestly can’t tell anymore.

Maybe the weapon itself needs to be reworked to be a little more active.

But why stop there, I’m sure the class could use a little more shine and polish than just that

Me thinks those stun wars should be taken care of first.

there’s nothing wrong with shortbows. it has stun, daze and evade. it’s perfect for me. clearly, you are underestimating rangers who use shortbow too much.

Valentin.2073:

there’s nothing wrong with shortbows. it has stun, daze and evade. it’s perfect for me. clearly, you are underestimating rangers who use shortbow too much.

I main ranger, and clearly, you are evaluating the effectiveness of the functionality of the skills, while I’m evaluating the overall actions per minute it takes to effectively do damage with the weapon.

They are two completely different things.

NO weapon in the entire game should ever rely solely on it’s autoattack to reach peak DPS. That’s very bad design, especially for a competitive atmosphere.

Soilder.3607:

Me thinks those stun wars should be taken care of first.

December 10th is a start to that, but I don’t think it addresses the issue with Healing Signet.

Still, the patch is changing Warriors far more than it is even affecting rangers. Meta builds will barely even change for the ranger, except maybe becoming even harder to kill with certain setups.

The point still stands that the shortbow needs to be made to have more active investment in using it in order to have it do it’s full damage potential. By active, I mean doing something more than just autoattacking for max DPS.

The only thing shortbow needs is it former ranger back.

Ranger’s actually use every one of the Shortbow Skills quite a bit..

Now as for why Ranger’s rely on auto attack for damage with shortbow is simple..

Cause none of the attacks actually do more damage then the Auto Attack.

For some reason other classes get a good auto attack, but they also get really good damage on the other attacks as well, cause ya know.. those attacks have cooldowns.

Look at a Scepter/Dagger Condition Necromancer….. Auto Attack is pretty good on Scepter….. But all the other abilities are also really good damage as well……

Thieves have really good damage on their auto attack as well, But everyone of their abilities is also more damage.

So its not that those classes don’t use their auto attacks, They do… Its just everyone of their other abilities does more and thus is more noticeable.

You give higher damage on the Ranger Shortbow attacks, and they’ll still be doing the same thing they’re doing now….Only you’ll notice the attacks more often…

AA is max dps b/c SB is a utility weapon. anims on SB 4 & 5 are similar to AA & are often overlooked when fighting them. spamming AA is poor SB usage. even if it’s “max DPS”, SB doesn’t put out high DPS in the first place so that shouldn’t be the priority when using it.

piercing poison, cripple, daze/stun, evade + swiftness is why you use SB. there are other benefits as well depending on spec. eg. SB3 will give your pet swiftness in spirit spec.

faeral.1840:

AA is max dps b/c SB is a utility weapon. anims on SB 4 & 5 are similar to AA & are often overlooked when fighting them. spamming AA is poor SB usage. even if it’s “max DPS”, SB doesn’t put out high DPS in the first place so that shouldn’t be the priority when using it.

piercing poison, cripple, daze/stun, evade + swiftness is why you use SB. there are other benefits as well depending on spec. eg. SB3 will give your pet swiftness in spirit spec.

Both of these guys get it

Xsorus.2507:

Ranger’s actually use every one of the Shortbow Skills quite a bit..

Now as for why Ranger’s rely on auto attack for damage with shortbow is simple..

Cause none of the attacks actually do more damage then the Auto Attack.

For some reason other classes get a good auto attack, but they also get really good damage on the other attacks as well, cause ya know.. those attacks have cooldowns.

Look at a Scepter/Dagger Condition Necromancer….. Auto Attack is pretty good on Scepter….. But all the other abilities are also really good damage as well……

Thieves have really good damage on their auto attack as well, But everyone of their abilities is also more damage.

So its not that those classes don’t use their auto attacks, They do… Its just everyone of their other abilities does more and thus is more noticeable.

You give higher damage on the Ranger Shortbow attacks, and they’ll still be doing the same thing they’re doing now….Only you’ll notice the attacks more often…

and dont forget on lb aa is as strong as the others single target abilities

“pew pew pew pew pew pew…..dodge…pew pew pew pew pew……and pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew…”

90% rangers out there….their pets/spirits are the real tryhards..

Didn’t you know? “All rangers are bots..”

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Didn’t you know? “All rangers are bots..”

They’re bots controlled by pets…since pets/spirits appear to be the real players there…they’re just like ai mesmer phantasms…they just keep attacking something while their companions do the job..give mesmer a shortbow so we can have “summon illusionary pew pew ranger” that would be great…