Guild Wars 2

Let me start out by saying that I’m awesome and I should never have to lose.

So I have an issue with auto balancing and I’m sure I’m not alone. It really sucks when you’ve been fighting hard with your team, and have a decent lead, a lead you helped create, and people on the other team start quitting. Then you get the whole volunteer and take my chances and all that non-sense and zap, now you’re on the other team.

This is really frustrating to me. I’m not all that inclined to want to fight an uphill battle against all the progress I just made on the other side.

Now, before we all get self righteous and say its random and therefore fair, I realize this is their attempt at fairness. However, by giving us a choice that really isn’t a choice, and then randomly throwing someone to the other team, I would argue that its not fair.

First of all, who is going to say, “OOH! PICK ME! I WANT TO GO OVER TO THE LOSING TEAM!!!” Not many. Sure there are some people who think this is a “challenge” and therefore fun, but in reality most people aren’t going to volunteer.

Secondly, why should the winning team be penalized by at best losing a crappy player and worst by losing one of their better players for the actions taken by the opposing team.

So here is my solution: I’m all for auto balancing if accomplished in a way that isn’t a penalization for actions taken by the opposing team. i.e. give them the player with the least amount of points.

There are two reasons I believe this is fair.

First, they are not that great, or aren’t trying as hard as the other players. Yes we all have bad games where we just don’t seem to score as many points, but if you are at the bottom and auto balancing comes up, expect to get traded. This may actually encourage some of those players to try harder so as not to be on the bottom.

Secondly, they joined late, and don’t have as much invested as the players that have been hard at work since the beginning of the match.

This random nonsense, while an attempt at fairness, is a poorly designed game mechanic that I personally would like to see changed.

I agree, this annoys the hell out of me as well

Leavers should get deserter penalty like you get in wow. Or deduct rank/points from them.

NJS.2587:

Leavers should get deserter penalty like you get in wow. Or deduct rank/points from them.

No that is dumb. Who the hell wants to remain in a game with 3000000000 thiefs/mesmers? F that. You leave it.

Besides, didn’t they make it to where if you were one of the players that had to switch, you still keep all your points?

Don’t you still get the points for the winning team? AND it won’t balance if the score is near 500 or the time is almost up? Anet has gone further than they needed to already guys… it is just a random pub match after all…

I have a low score because I do most of the point capping for peeps but at the same time I rack in the sustained points too.

Anecdotal, of course, but volunteering to be on the losing team seems to have absolutely no bearing on whether or not I’m selected to be moved to it. In fact, (again, entirely anecdotal because it just “feels” this way) I seem more likely to get swapped if I take my chances.

So yes, this means I volunteer every time and no, it’s not really because I actually want to go.

Yes, you keep your points earned up until that point, including anything gained from “most kill” and other post-match rewards. You do not get the victory points you’d have gained on the winning team but you do get a volunteer pittance regardless of whether or not you are selected.

I’ve also noticed that I have a stronger tendency of being switched if I’m at the top of the board than the bottom, and that’s probably a good thing. The system is designed to try to keep the teams balanced, not put all the schleps on the same team(and yes, I realize that it sometimes fails grandly at this).

Honestly, I think it’s a good system, even when it doesn’t favor me. If I wanted something that locked me into a lopsided matchup on the winning team every time, I’d hook up with a PvP crew and run premade(nothing at all wrong with this, mind, it just isn’t what spvp is about). Pickup matches need stuff like this.

I think you do keep the winning bonus. So when volunteering you ALWAYS win in that sense.

Still: the 5 points for volunteering is a joke by itself.

Don’t forget that, win or lose, you tend to end up in the team getting zerged by the others. Once you swapped to a team where people bailed out, you won’t get many kills, many captures, etc.
I think the reward for volunteering should make up for that more.

But than again: I think the whole point system is flawed and should reward teamplay and objectives more than zerging.
Sad rule of the spvp system: defending gets you nothing but killed…

It is more then just this. It is how the hole game work. KILL everything else is worthless. You stalled 5 enemys and you team got get the point. PFFF you might aswell stand around. It is sad that it is this way the Auto balance just adds a kick in the kitten when you are actually doing what they want kill lots of stuff.