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Posted by: Mssg.7804

Mssg.7804

Thiefs are jumping around smaping HS for 4-5k dmg, warriors can burst someone for 25k dmg in 2 sec… How can I have fun from PvP when I am dying so often as Ele and on every match there is 50% thiefs, 30% warriors and 20% other classes??

Well before relase some1 from Arenanet was talking about GREAT BALANCE in game!

@edit
Oh I just found solution, I roll to thief.

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Posted by: milo.6942

milo.6942

I’m glad you rolled thief.

/engineer

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Posted by: Glucose.7608

Glucose.7608

The mesmers thank you, as well. Honestly, there is a lot of variation within professions it would seem. Perhaps building a character with the intent of outlasting their burst and winning by sustained damage would be in order.

I don’t have any experience as an elementalist, so I can’t tell you any specifics. It does seem clear to me that a ‘flavor-of-the-month’ situation has already developed—just glancing at the top page of this forum makes that pretty obvious. With this in mind, frustrated players might find more relief in creating a build that counters popular tactics than demanding they be changed.

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Posted by: milo.6942

milo.6942

frustrated players might find more relief in creating a build that counters popular tactics than demanding they be changed.

“Hmm…
Nah! The game developers must not have a clue what they’re doing! I’ve got to set them straight!”

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Posted by: Saereth.8306

Saereth.8306

actually as an ele you pretty much need to build to counter it already, and even then will still die often. As an example, I often run a soldier’s amulet 30 earth/20 water/30 arcana build made for max toughness/health with S/D. At 18.5k health and 2800 armor I was still bursted in under 10 seconds after popping all defensives and yes, dodging with evasive arcana and improved endurance regen.

Got it on video as well. If you dont build to counter and go glass cannon or something then you’re just a free stomp for them, especially with no down state interrupt.

Eles could use a buff perhaps, but I’d honestly rather see other classes fall in line with them on the topic of time to kill. Eles have comparable damage to some other classes, no where near as bursty as thieves, while having both light armor and the smallest health pool in the game. It’s a bad scenario.

Doesn’t mean an Ele cant be viable and win some, and the best elmentalists out there can make a great showing, but overall, it’s a tough spot for them right now.

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Posted by: milo.6942

milo.6942

Post the video?

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Posted by: Archadian.5024

Archadian.5024

These posts are getting both numerous and irritating. Some balance needs to be done, but more than that we need to be playing more, learning more, reacting better…

Fight to eat, eat to live, live to die.

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Posted by: thivasss.6023

thivasss.6023

As a staff ele, I have the same problem. They nerfed arcane utility skills and that was right. Due to warrior burst i turned into a cantrip based build. I played a lot of hot-join servers and tournaments. My thoughts? Guardians OP. Thiefs 2232 spams no skills kills. I run a guadian and a thief and it was realy easy. But i love my staff ele and thats my main. I do better than the most staff eles but we still need a buff.

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Posted by: Candiru.5279

Candiru.5279

As a staff ele, I have the same problem. They nerfed arcane utility skills and that was right. Due to warrior burst i turned into a cantrip based build. I played a lot of hot-join servers and tournaments. My thoughts? Guardians OP. Thiefs 2232 spams no skills kills. I run a guadian and a thief and it was realy easy. But i love my staff ele and thats my main. I do better than the most staff eles but we still need a buff.

You forgot mesmer

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Posted by: Sanis.1096

Sanis.1096

Thiefs are jumping around smaping HS for 4-5k dmg, warriors can burst someone for 25k dmg in 2 sec… How can I have fun from PvP when I am dying so often as Ele and on every match there is 50% thiefs, 30% warriors and 20% other classes??

Well before relase some1 from Arenanet was talking about GREAT BALANCE in game!

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Oh I just found solution, I roll to thief.

get a skill that breaks stun → dodge = profit

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Posted by: Lewk.8359

Lewk.8359

A lot are jumping on the mesmer/thief bandwagon.

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Posted by: buttski.6135

buttski.6135

@edit
Oh I just found solution, I roll to thief.

you will fail with every class.

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Posted by: Blazer Hellsing.9184

Blazer Hellsing.9184

You are a bad PvP player and all you do is complain and claim “unbalance” based on hot joinable SPvP matches! Luckily Arenanet doesn’t take you serious. Go make a a Heartseeker Thief if you think they are over the top, enjoy being a melee glass cannon.

Tournemany PvP is a better indication for balance when teams are organized and have builds that support each other.

Main: Thief
Alts: Warrior, Necromancer, Mesmer, Elementalist (bunker)

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Posted by: pinkglow.3429

pinkglow.3429

LEARN 2 PLAY THIS IS GUILDWARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The thing is that thieves dont have to, they can push out too much damage without having any kind of skill. Anyone can try and will see results. That why they need to do something about them, especially since spvp in this game is suppose to reward skills, and going for e-sport material wont happen if they keep any profession this faceroll to play.

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Posted by: ontages.6542

ontages.6542

If theres one thing i learned about this game so far its that if your good at your prof you you can beat any player no matter what prof they are. Ive played a mesmer, ranger, and guardian so far and ive found no class to be stronger than the other. Each class is better and worse in certain ways.

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Posted by: Nihi.3901

Nihi.3901

If theres one thing i learned about this game so far its that if your good at your prof you you can beat any player no matter what prof they are. Ive played a mesmer, ranger, and guardian so far and ive found no class to be stronger than the other. Each class is better and worse in certain ways.

Try necromancer then.

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Posted by: UptheIronz.6732

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Thieves Got Nerfed Today ..
Whine More , i wonder why no one complain about warriors bursting for 20k + with haste ….

well here comes the balance nightmare

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Posted by: Blazer Hellsing.9184

Blazer Hellsing.9184

LEARN 2 PLAY THIS IS GUILDWARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The thing is that thieves dont have to, they can push out too much damage without having any kind of skill. Anyone can try and will see results. That why they need to do something about them, especially since spvp in this game is suppose to reward skills, and going for e-sport material wont happen if they keep any profession this faceroll to play.

Hot Joinable PvP is not an indication of balance nor a valid arena to meassure succes, the fact that you and other Heartseeker whiners don’t comprehend this shows how clueless you are.

You think it is easy to get results as a Heartseeker Thief? Feel free to make one and play in TOURNEMANTS and show us how easy it is to get results.

I didn’t even bother playing Heartseeker build after a few games and seeing how weak it is.

Try necromancer then.

I play a Necromancer and it is no different to Thief. I dominate on my Thief and I dominate on my Necromancer.

Main: Thief
Alts: Warrior, Necromancer, Mesmer, Elementalist (bunker)

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Posted by: Aragiel.6132

Aragiel.6132

I’m glad you rolled thief.

/engineer

I´m glad he rolled Thief as well.

/Mesmer

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Posted by: Kyosuke Dei.3216

Kyosuke Dei.3216

my friends already has a counter Ele build, and Necro versus thief and Warriors burst builds. He consistently 1v1 them. But basically you just wanna roll glass cannon right?

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Posted by: elchulo.3148

elchulo.3148

I love when people say l2p when they’ve never played an elementalist. They are clearly the most underpowered class next to necros. Anyone saying differently must be playing against scrubs.