Guild Wars 2

PVE:
Players say, what shall we do with this 4250 Blade Shards that we collected during past 2 weeks (2 WEEKS ONLY !!!!!!)

DEVS: You can hold on to your extra blade shards, as the team will be adding something later which will allow you to convert the shards to something of value.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/escape/What-to-do-with-4250-Blade-Shards

PVP:
We collectet many many items, 1200 kristals , 1500 orbs 7000 powder, 800 slivers …. over 600 Glory bosters… and 50+ of each crafting material + the great amount of useless tokens – during past 1,5 year and we cant do anything with this kitten….

Devs: USE IT !

This is soooo unfair to be honest !!!

You should probably use it to make items you already have and then just salvage it again and repeat…at some point, you’ll understand A-net’s plan.

Pyriall.5027:

You should probably use it to make items you already have and then just salvage it again and repeat…at some point, you’ll understand A-net’s plan.

To waste our time and not waste dedicating their scant resources to a failed mini-game?

This thread makes my head spin how much you are screwing yourself and blaming the system. Lol.

After hearing about the Glory Removal coming, I mystic forged all my Arcane Dust and Arcane Slivers into about 300g worth of Dyes, after selling them on the Trading Post. I’ve been spamming boosters and using excess glory on copper chests. This strategy landed me more dust, which meant more dyes to sell.

In the last two weeks, (or whenever the Bags of Alliance Supplies were added to PvP), I have collected 10,000 blade shards from tournament chests. I think that our plight as dedicated PvP is the same as PvE players in that we need a dump for all these freaking Blade Shards.

From the Bags of Alliance Supplies, I also have gotten enough ‘Found Belongings’ in order to buy and resell 40g worth of Watchwork Sprockets on the Trading Post.

Chaith.8256:

This thread makes my head spin how much you are screwing yourself and blaming the system. Lol.

After hearing about the Glory Removal coming, I mystic forged all my Arcane Dust and Arcane Slivers into about 300g worth of Dyes, after selling them on the Trading Post. I’ve been spamming boosters and using excess glory on copper chests. This strategy landed me more dust, which meant more dyes to sell.

In the last two weeks, (or whenever the Bags of Alliance Supplies were added to PvP), I have collected 10,000 blade shards from tournament chests. I think that our plight as dedicated PvP is the same as PvE players in that we need a dump for all these freaking Blade Shards.

From the Bags of Alliance Supplies, I also have gotten enough ‘Found Belongings’ in order to buy and resell 40g worth of Watchwork Sprockets on the Trading Post.

Saying someone is blaming the system means the system isn’t at fault. It 100% is the system. He isn’t blaming it, he’s pointing to how broken it is.

just one character…..

That’s a lotta dyes.
You should start crafting already.

Sampo.9678:

That’s a lotta dyes.
You should start crafting already.

Hey, yeah. The guy’s sitting on 500 dyes right now, and he he gets another 5000 dust from buying copper chests/forging his orbs & tokens, then he can make another 500 dye potentially, because he has enough Arcane Slivers.

Do you know how much gold 1k dyes will get you?

mhm one problem, no glory for tokens:D

Pyriall.5027:

Saying someone is blaming the system means the system isn’t at fault. It 100% is the system. He isn’t blaming it, he’s pointing to how broken it is.

Pyriall.5027:

Chaith.8256:

This thread makes my head spin how much you are screwing yourself and blaming the system. Lol.

After hearing about the Glory Removal coming, I mystic forged all my Arcane Dust and Arcane Slivers into about 300g worth of Dyes, after selling them on the Trading Post. I’ve been spamming boosters and using excess glory on copper chests. This strategy landed me more dust, which meant more dyes to sell.

In the last two weeks, (or whenever the Bags of Alliance Supplies were added to PvP), I have collected 10,000 blade shards from tournament chests. I think that our plight as dedicated PvP is the same as PvE players in that we need a dump for all these freaking Blade Shards.

From the Bags of Alliance Supplies, I also have gotten enough ‘Found Belongings’ in order to buy and resell 40g worth of Watchwork Sprockets on the Trading Post.

Saying someone is blaming the system means the system isn’t at fault. It 100% is the system. He isn’t blaming it, he’s pointing to how broken it is.

I’m a dedicated Tournament PvPer.. and the system currently makes me feel well compensated and rewarded for winning Tournaments. If you are too lazy to use the system and liquidate your PvP material collection into dyes (like the guy above posting his PvP material collection screenshot) then you have no grounds to complain about the system being broken.

The OP of this thread is claiming that there’s “nothing he can do with this kitten” so my purpose of writing this was pretty much to say…. yes, the Devs are not talking out of their rear ends when they say to “USE IT, SERIOUSLY”.

I rather spend glory on Tomes of Knowledge. Also its a terrible amount of clicking to make dyes. No thanks.

Chaith.8256:

Pyriall.5027:

Saying someone is blaming the system means the system isn’t at fault. It 100% is the system. He isn’t blaming it, he’s pointing to how broken it is.

Pyriall.5027:

Chaith.8256:

This thread makes my head spin how much you are screwing yourself and blaming the system. Lol.

After hearing about the Glory Removal coming, I mystic forged all my Arcane Dust and Arcane Slivers into about 300g worth of Dyes, after selling them on the Trading Post. I’ve been spamming boosters and using excess glory on copper chests. This strategy landed me more dust, which meant more dyes to sell.

In the last two weeks, (or whenever the Bags of Alliance Supplies were added to PvP), I have collected 10,000 blade shards from tournament chests. I think that our plight as dedicated PvP is the same as PvE players in that we need a dump for all these freaking Blade Shards.

From the Bags of Alliance Supplies, I also have gotten enough ‘Found Belongings’ in order to buy and resell 40g worth of Watchwork Sprockets on the Trading Post.

Saying someone is blaming the system means the system isn’t at fault. It 100% is the system. He isn’t blaming it, he’s pointing to how broken it is.

I’m a dedicated Tournament PvPer.. and the system currently makes me feel well compensated and rewarded for winning Tournaments. If you are too lazy to use the system and liquidate your PvP material collection into dyes (like the guy above posting his PvP material collection screenshot) then you have no grounds to complain about the system being broken.

I have every right to complain. Who exactly are you to tell someone they can’t? The system isn’t rewarding. I have converted materials and sold dyes. Woopiee!! Very much appreciated, very fun. It does absolutely zero for me. It’s not a reward. Maybe you’re too lazy to realize it’s a crap system.

Pyriall.5027:

I have every right to complain. Who exactly are you to tell someone they can’t?

‘Grounds’

8. The foundation for an argument, a belief, or an action; a basis. Often used in the plural.

I’m saying the belief some people hold that the PvP system has no way to be rewarded for amassing PvP items is a really inaccurate stance, that makes your complaints pretty unfounded.

I’m not saying you have no right to complain in the first place. You are always allowed to whine.

Malediktus.9250:

I rather spend glory on Tomes of Knowledge. Also its a terrible amount of clicking to make dyes. No thanks.

Well, I guess with the priorities you have, you’d have to do enough PvP in order to get all characters leveled up, and then focus on consumable tokens (200 glory each). To make 1000 dyes (liquidate a massive collection) it takes about 200,000 glory.

I didn’t have that problem because I play tPvP consistently, with boosters, and have excess glory – I’ve bought all my tomes and gear back in December. But I can sympathize.

Sounds like many people people are out of glory, have a ton of boosters, and aren’t PvPing to get some consumable tokens.

Your giant collection will go to waste if you don’t buy some consumable tokens and make Dyes… that is what you need to do if you don’t want to miss out on hundreds of gold in return for your big collection of PvP Materials.

AwUu.9283:

just one character…..

Have fun spending an entire dye clicking your kitten off making dyes….Sure youre looking forward to it.

Caedmon.6798:

AwUu.9283:

just one character…..

Have fun spending an entire dye clicking your kitten off making dyes….Sure youre looking forward to it.

Clearly nobody has Runescape’d before, as a pre-teen. Hahaha. The game was pretty much an endless dye-making game, when put in perspective.

Chaith.8256:

Pyriall.5027:

I have every right to complain. Who exactly are you to tell someone they can’t?

‘Grounds’

8. The foundation for an argument, a belief, or an action; a basis. Often used in the plural.

I’m saying the belief some people hold that the PvP system has no way to be rewarded for amassing PvP items is a really inaccurate stance, that makes your complaints pretty unfounded.

I’m not saying you have no right to complain in the first place. You are always allowed to whine.

Ok the grounds or basis in the complaint is that the system is not rewarding. Over a year and half we’ve received the ability to accumulate items to make items we have OR make dyes. Sounds like a fair and rewarding system to me.

Pyriall.5027:

Ok the grounds or basis in the complaint is that the system is not rewarding. Over a year and half we’ve received the ability to accumulate items to make items we have OR make dyes. Sounds like a fair and rewarding system to me.

Well, you left a couple details out in your argument on why the system is not fair or rewarding. Here’s what you can do with Glory in the last year and a half. In over a year and a half, dedicated PvPers since launch have had the opportunity to use Glory to level all characters to 80 through PvP, make insane (500+) gold from Wintersday gifts, bypass the grindy ranks and directly buy the upper ranked PvP gear.

That’s from spending glory. Dye crafting is the less favorable, more grindy way to spend glory on consumable tokens, but a proper way to ensure you get the maximum reward for your left over PvP by-products.

On an unrelated note, now we get cash from playing PvP matches, super increased Rank Points from tournaments, and tons of Bags of Alliance supplies.

A lot has changed in the way PvP players are being rewarded in the last couple months.. actually.

I agree that the system was was very disappointing compared to what could have been. The rewards weren’t that dynamic or thoughtful. They’ve more or less just been throwing money at us, or speeding up progression very fast. But dedicated PvP players have no grounds, (there’s that word again), to say that PvP progression has only received the ability to make dye, or PvP items, like you just said.

Right now though, the focus is tying up the loose ends in order for the better system to go live.. it’s actually pretty exciting for someone like me who likes GW2 PvP.

I can make 492 dyes, but have no glory to buy the tokens ;_;

the struggle is real..

I don’t want to meet the person with the patience to make 1000 account bound dyes

Chaith.8256:

Pyriall.5027:

Ok the grounds or basis in the complaint is that the system is not rewarding. Over a year and half we’ve received the ability to accumulate items to make items we have OR make dyes. Sounds like a fair and rewarding system to me.

Well, you left a couple details out in your argument on why the system is not fair or rewarding. Here’s what you can do with Glory in the last year and a half. In over a year and a half, dedicated PvPers since launch have had the opportunity to use Glory to level all characters to 80 through PvP, make insane (500+) gold from Wintersday gifts, bypass the grindy ranks and directly buy the upper ranked PvP gear.

That’s from spending glory. Dye crafting is the less favorable, more grindy way to spend glory on consumable tokens, but a proper way to ensure you get the maximum reward for your left over PvP by-products.

On an unrelated note, now we get cash from playing PvP matches, super increased Rank Points from tournaments, and tons of Bags of Alliance supplies.

A lot has changed in the way PvP players are being rewarded in the last couple months.. actually.

I agree that the system was was very disappointing compared to what could have been. The rewards weren’t that dynamic or thoughtful. They’ve more or less just been throwing money at us, or speeding up progression very fast. But dedicated PvP players have no grounds, (there’s that word again), to say that PvP progression has only received the ability to make dye, or PvP items, like you just said.

Right now though, the focus is tying up the loose ends in order for the better system to go live.. it’s actually pretty exciting for someone like me who likes GW2 PvP.

We absolutely have the “GROUNDS” to say pvp progression has been terrible. I was sitting on over 1.5 million glory when the new glory sinks came in. Those came in a year after the game was released. Very cool swag ooh much loots was given when they introduced the new vendors. After purchasing everything, our options are…dyes. I’m sorry, that’s just not a good system. You said it yourself, “The rewards weren’t that dynamic or thoughtful.” that’s GROUNDS enough to kitten the system as poor.

Caedmon.6798:

AwUu.9283:

just one character…..

Have fun spending an entire dye clicking your kitten off making dyes….Sure youre looking forward to it.

well u could always craft dyes. so its not the system fault if u bunker all the mats. all that complain is total stupid.

why complain about many clicks if u have choose to not use it immediatly and bunker maybe dyes. so its your own fault.

Pyriall.5027:

You said it yourself, “The rewards weren’t that dynamic or thoughtful.” that’s GROUNDS enough to kitten the system as poor.

Sounds like you’re just giving up on saying it’s not rewarding, and looking for an excuse to vent.

It’s exactly like getting $100 for Christmas from a relative. It happens once a year, and it’s not that thing you’ve been wanting, but maybe you could use your brain, go to the store (trading post) and get some rewards yourself?

Chaith.8256:

Pyriall.5027:

You said it yourself, “The rewards weren’t that dynamic or thoughtful.” that’s GROUNDS enough to kitten the system as poor.

Sounds like you’re just giving up on saying it’s not rewarding, and looking for an excuse to vent.

It’s exactly like getting $100 for Christmas from a relative. It happens once a year, and it’s not that thing you’ve been wanting, but maybe you could use your brain, go to the store (trading post) and get some rewards yourself?

I don’t need to look for an excuse to vent. The rewards system for pvp is lack luster.

It’s more like your parents gave you a coupon to trade in for anything in the house you want.

well, let’s all be fair, the reward system sucks, and further utilizing it, i.e. the mystic forge is boring and tedius, and other than consumables, there’s further rng. it’s not a good system.

and then you look at pve, where hoarding is rewarded, it’s kind of disappointing.

There’s the possibility that all your pvp skins will be usable across all game modes, and that a skin locker to store them out will exist across all game modes. It’s only a possibility, but if so, I’d say that pvp players will have an edge over pve players by far in this regard.

I’m still wondering when we can use our spinal blades in PvP and can cross over the look into PvE as well >=(

I think both sides arguing here have some good points. You should be using up your materials to make dye or whatever you choose. However, this is a really tedious and boring chore. Not to mention, even after I crafted a bunch of dye, I still have a ton of useless tokens that I don’t really have a use for since I’ve almost filled up my locker with what I can and have everything I want. Even if I cared to fill up the few holes, I’ll have to go through the very tedious task of seeing what I’m missing and then looking up what I need to craft it. I’d STILL have a ton of useless rank tokens left over.

If this problem existed in PVE, we’d totally get compensated. But since this is PVP….

isolatedchimp.2510:

[…]Not to mention, even after I crafted a bunch of dye, I still have a ton of useless tokens that I don’t really have a use for since I’ve almost filled up my locker with what I can and have everything I want. […]
If this problem existed in PVE, we’d totally get compensated. But since this is PVP….

Well… maybe… just maybe… there IS a reason why the pvp system is being reworked…

DISCLAIMER: As some crazy folks might come to the conclusion that Anet does care they are just wrong. You heard me. Wrong. WRONG. W-R-O-N-G. This is nothing but an unfair, unnecessary and overall purely evil nerf to pointless accusations on the forums.

Matisse.9356:

isolatedchimp.2510:

[…]Not to mention, even after I crafted a bunch of dye, I still have a ton of useless tokens that I don’t really have a use for since I’ve almost filled up my locker with what I can and have everything I want. […]
If this problem existed in PVE, we’d totally get compensated. But since this is PVP….

Well… maybe… just maybe… there IS a reason why the pvp system is being reworked…

DISCLAIMER: As some crazy folks might come to the conclusion that Anet does care they are just wrong. You heard me. Wrong. WRONG. W-R-O-N-G. This is nothing but an unfair, unnecessary and overall purely evil nerf to pointless accusations on the forums.

Maybe just maybe you should actually read the issue here and that’s the fact that ANET seems to go out of their way to compensate the PVE side of things whereas in PVP they just feel free to delete stuff without compensation.

So tell me how a revamp refutes this discrepancy or is your post just a “pointless accusation on the forum”?

isolatedchimp.2510:

Matisse.9356:

isolatedchimp.2510:

[…]Not to mention, even after I crafted a bunch of dye, I still have a ton of useless tokens that I don’t really have a use for since I’ve almost filled up my locker with what I can and have everything I want. […]
If this problem existed in PVE, we’d totally get compensated. But since this is PVP….

Well… maybe… just maybe… there IS a reason why the pvp system is being reworked…

DISCLAIMER: As some crazy folks might come to the conclusion that Anet does care they are just wrong. You heard me. Wrong. WRONG. W-R-O-N-G. This is nothing but an unfair, unnecessary and overall purely evil nerf to pointless accusations on the forums.

Maybe just maybe you should actually read the issue here and that’s the fact that ANET seems to go out of their way to compensate the PVE side of things whereas in PVP they just feel free to delete stuff without compensation.

So tell me how a revamp refutes this discrepancy or is your post just a “pointless accusation on the forum”?

It is pointless because you can still craft your stuff.
Your pvp crafting material will not be deleted.
The only thing that will be without further use from the 18th onwards is the glory booster. And Anet has provided us early on with information about the removal of glory so everybody can use his glory boosters before it gets obsolete.

And given your compensation statement: We all know that the grass is always greener on the other side.

he’s saying that anyone who thinks anet cares is wrong.

Meh…. this post was a lie.!!!

Sergoros.4398:

Btw, they gonna sell tokens for copper, after glory removal, so, possibly, it could be a good idea to not waste your glory on tokens and w8 for the patch.

Is there a source for this? As far as I was aware it was only salvage kits.

XGhoul.7426:

Sergoros.4398:

Btw, they gonna sell tokens for copper, after glory removal, so, possibly, it could be a good idea to not waste your glory on tokens and w8 for the patch.

Is there a source for this? As far as I was aware it was only salvage kits.

Uh…right…checked myself. It was only salvage kits. My bad.

Matisse.9356:

isolatedchimp.2510:

Matisse.9356:

isolatedchimp.2510:

[…]Not to mention, even after I crafted a bunch of dye, I still have a ton of useless tokens that I don’t really have a use for since I’ve almost filled up my locker with what I can and have everything I want. […]
If this problem existed in PVE, we’d totally get compensated. But since this is PVP….

Well… maybe… just maybe… there IS a reason why the pvp system is being reworked…

DISCLAIMER: As some crazy folks might come to the conclusion that Anet does care they are just wrong. You heard me. Wrong. WRONG. W-R-O-N-G. This is nothing but an unfair, unnecessary and overall purely evil nerf to pointless accusations on the forums.

Maybe just maybe you should actually read the issue here and that’s the fact that ANET seems to go out of their way to compensate the PVE side of things whereas in PVP they just feel free to delete stuff without compensation.

So tell me how a revamp refutes this discrepancy or is your post just a “pointless accusation on the forum”?

It is pointless because you can still craft your stuff.
Your pvp crafting material will not be deleted.
The only thing that will be without further use from the 18th onwards is the glory booster. And Anet has provided us early on with information about the removal of glory so everybody can use his glory boosters before it gets obsolete.

And given your compensation statement: We all know that the grass is always greener on the other side.

Eventually you won’t be able to access the glory/rank vendors/mystic forge and we’d STILL have tons of useless rank and item tokens left over. Like I said before I have tons of rank tokens that I’ll never use because I’ve pretty much filled up everything within those ranks. Nothing is magically giving my tokens and stuff a purpose. My point is that we’ll never get compensated for those, which would be fine except seeing PVE constantly getting compensated annoys me. Yes the grass is greener blah blah blah, but I’m free to express my opinion especially when nothing I’ve said is factually wrong.

isolatedchimp.2510:

Matisse.9356:

isolatedchimp.2510:

Matisse.9356:

isolatedchimp.2510:

[…]Not to mention, even after I crafted a bunch of dye, I still have a ton of useless tokens that I don’t really have a use for since I’ve almost filled up my locker with what I can and have everything I want. […]
If this problem existed in PVE, we’d totally get compensated. But since this is PVP….

Well… maybe… just maybe… there IS a reason why the pvp system is being reworked…

DISCLAIMER: As some crazy folks might come to the conclusion that Anet does care they are just wrong. You heard me. Wrong. WRONG. W-R-O-N-G. This is nothing but an unfair, unnecessary and overall purely evil nerf to pointless accusations on the forums.

Maybe just maybe you should actually read the issue here and that’s the fact that ANET seems to go out of their way to compensate the PVE side of things whereas in PVP they just feel free to delete stuff without compensation.

So tell me how a revamp refutes this discrepancy or is your post just a “pointless accusation on the forum”?

It is pointless because you can still craft your stuff.
Your pvp crafting material will not be deleted.
The only thing that will be without further use from the 18th onwards is the glory booster. And Anet has provided us early on with information about the removal of glory so everybody can use his glory boosters before it gets obsolete.

And given your compensation statement: We all know that the grass is always greener on the other side.

Eventually you won’t be able to access the glory/rank vendors/mystic forge living story vendors and we’d STILL have tons of useless rank and item tokens blade shards left over. Like I said before I have tons of rank tokens blade shards that I’ll never use because I’ve pretty much filled up everything within those ranksat level 80. Nothing is magically giving my tokens and stuff blade shards a purpose. My point is that we’ll never get compensated for those, which would be fine except seeing PVE [insert random element] constantly getting compensated annoys me. Yes the grass is greener blah blah blah, but I’m free to express my opinion especially when nothing I’ve said is factually wrong anything but my opinion.

Corrected for future rants – you’re welcome.
You certainly can express your opinion. I fully agree.

Matisse.9356:

I have no counter argument to yours because you make a really good point so I’m just going to alter your post and look like an idiot. trolololol.

I like cheese.

isolatedchimp.2510:

I like cheese.

Glad to hear I have a good reputation.

isolatedchimp.2510:

Matisse.9356:

I have no counter argument to yours because you make a really good point so I’m just going to alter your post and look like an idiot. trolololol.

I like cheese.

If you don’t want to understand, it’s fine by me.
Infantile behaviour is unnecessary, but from each according to his abilities.
The thread has derailed enough, I’m gonna leave it with that.

Matisse.9356:

Infantile behaviour is unnecessary, but from each according to his abilities.

Says the guy altering other people’s posts.