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Posted by: Nemiros.3590

Nemiros.3590

Herro~

I recently came back to my favorite PvP game to enjoy the dynamic combat that I love from GW2 pvp.

Basically the game is nothing how I remember it to be. It turns out that matches have become who has the most warriors, and these new warriors are ridiculous. It has become a game of waiting out CDs. “there goes berserker stance, kitten, first endure pain, burst. Passive endure pain, wait it out. Block, interrupt or wait it out. Try toburst before they get another cooldown back” not to mention that they heal 400-700 hps when theyre invulnerable, and hoping that no one comes to help them while you spend all that time trying to kill one. I remember when we used to laugh at a signet warrior lol

Not to mention all the pet builds. You outright have to outplay by quite a bit these builds to kill them. I dont mind builds being OP, there will always be OP classes and builds with each patch and the meta will shift, but this current meta is focused on passive abilities. I get Anet is trying to get the PvE community to play more pvp since the community has died out, but making PvP simpler is not the way. Im still winning most of my matches, but its not fun anymore…

TL;DR: Win or Lose the current meta is not fun. Please take a look at it Anet, take some drastic changes for once and switch around the meta to make it more dynamic.

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

We have the meta for additional 3 month. So deal with it.

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Posted by: Nemiros.3590

Nemiros.3590

Oh I know… dunno why I even wrote this

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Posted by: kirito.4138

kirito.4138

Oh I know… dunno why I even wrote this

can you draw us cartoon comics instead?

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Posted by: dylan.5409

dylan.5409

Cause’ hope dies last
15 sad little characters

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

Herro~

I recently came back to my favorite PvP game to enjoy the dynamic combat that I love from GW2 pvp.

Basically the game is nothing how I remember it to be. It turns out that matches have become who has the most warriors, and these new warriors are ridiculous. It has become a game of waiting out CDs. “there goes berserker stance, kitten, first endure pain, burst. Passive endure pain, wait it out. Block, interrupt or wait it out. Try toburst before they get another cooldown back” not to mention that they heal 400-700 hps when theyre invulnerable, and hoping that no one comes to help them while you spend all that time trying to kill one. I remember when we used to laugh at a signet warrior lol

Not to mention all the pet builds. You outright have to outplay by quite a bit these builds to kill them. I dont mind builds being OP, there will always be OP classes and builds with each patch and the meta will shift, but this current meta is focused on passive abilities. I get Anet is trying to get the PvE community to play more pvp since the community has died out, but making PvP simpler is not the way. Im still winning most of my matches, but its not fun anymore…

TL;DR: Win or Lose the current meta is not fun. Please take a look at it Anet, take some drastic changes for once and switch around the meta to make it more dynamic.

Only warriors being named again ? How many matches Did you play ? What about the OP engies,necros,guardians,mesmers,“Some” thiefs.. ? There are several of those in every pvp match aswell…But no, no thats not interesting lets just follow the qq train to warrior land.

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Posted by: Tao.5096

Tao.5096

I would rather say – it’s disturbing how unbalanced the teams can get.
pvp ranks differ way too much.
Where for example, I had a team of 10+ ranks, 20+ ranks vs 40+ 50+ ranks.

Someone may say that rank doesn’t matter at all, but in fact it represents some kind of experience here like – battle, survival, class knowledge and map knowledge.

Did I ever tell you, the definition, of Insanity?

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Posted by: Liam McColgan.7689

Liam McColgan.7689

“what about the OP mesmers”?
I forgot, that most teams in solo are getting carried by ATLEAST 2 mesmers. I forgot that to be a top 100 team you need to have ATLEAST 1 mesmer……and all this time were were blinded by “qq train to warrior land”

Mesmer – 1250+ Ranked tpvp WINS.
– 7772 games played, 5274 games won.
“Nuke or be Nuked” – Said every mesmer ever

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

“what about the OP mesmers”?
I forgot, that most teams in solo are getting carried by ATLEAST 2 mesmers. I forgot that to be a top 100 team you need to have ATLEAST 1 mesmer……and all this time were were blinded by “qq train to warrior land”

You can be the sarcastic kitten all you want,idc really.The point im making and that you are missing is that there are several classes with extreme op builds,yet warrior is the one being named again and again and again untill you people are satisfied when it gets nerfed into the ground being useless again ( How anet is giving in to the constant healsig qq and will probably nerf it by 8%,useless but still.) QQ enough and they touch it apparantly,..Tired of all the complaints about warr when there are so much other op builds out there.

@Tao,there arn’t enough people playing spvp for anet to start dividing them up into ranks ,like rank 10 will only fight against 10 – 20 ranks etc.Its impossible for them to do so with such a low pvp playerbase.

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Posted by: Darnacus.5961

Darnacus.5961

Well, considering there are only 2 mesmers left in the top100 tPvP players, and they are about to reroll thief, I wonder were all the top 100 teams find them…

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Posted by: Tao.5096

Tao.5096

@Tao,there arn’t enough people playing spvp for anet to start dividing them up into ranks ,like rank 10 will only fight against 10 – 20 ranks etc.Its impossible for them to do so with such a low pvp playerbase.

that sucks. I know loads of people did quit spvp due to boredom and half kitten queue matching.

Maybe Anet should make a 3v3 and 1v1 matches as well? With proper rank range as well.

Did I ever tell you, the definition, of Insanity?

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Posted by: Liam McColgan.7689

Liam McColgan.7689

Ask yourself this….WHY is it that warriors have managed to cause so much hatred across pretty much every sub forum here? WHY is it that for a team to be successful you have to have at least 1 warrior? You sound like a moaning baby who can;t accept the blatant obviousness of the stupidity of warriors for 6 months now. They are ofc not the only class with balance issues but boy are they the worst. And to say mesmer’s are OP…you lost me there. Until a team NEEDs a mesmer to be top ranked just like a team needs a warr/guard/necro then your statement has some validity.

Mesmer – 1250+ Ranked tpvp WINS.
– 7772 games played, 5274 games won.
“Nuke or be Nuked” – Said every mesmer ever

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

Dee Jay.2460

PvP matches aren’t decided by skill or even the ability to kill people. They are decided by resource allocation aka. who shifts the right classes to the right place at the right time.

It is a skill too, just not one typically associated as the apex of MMO PvP.

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Posted by: Lankybird.8149

Lankybird.8149

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Only warriors being named again ? How many matches Did you play ? What about the OP engies,necros,guardians,mesmers,“Some” thiefs.. ? There are several of those in every pvp match aswell…But no, no thats not interesting lets just follow the qq train to warrior land.[/quote]

Okay so over half the Classes you named are OP? So I take it you are an ELE or Hunter… do not mind warriors…. hmm lets say Hunter then. (Ele would of prob not saved thief for last). Every class has its natural enemy, for example I feel as though Warrior and Necros match up best vs my Mesmer in most cases they annoy me the most. However on my Engineer I dont give 2 craps about necro or warrior. Each class has its limit is all I am getting at…. and if you think every class is op…. may not be the classes… HOLD UP MIRROR

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Posted by: Lankybird.8149

Lankybird.8149

I should add your play style and build obviously effect what matches up well with you, I am not saying Warrior and Necro counter Mesmer, just with my play style they match up well vs me personally.

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Posted by: Nikaido.3457

Nikaido.3457

Herro~

I recently came back to my favorite PvP game to enjoy the dynamic combat that I love from GW2 pvp.

Basically the game is nothing how I remember it to be. It turns out that matches have become who has the most warriors, and these new warriors are ridiculous. It has become a game of waiting out CDs. “there goes berserker stance, kitten, first endure pain, burst. Passive endure pain, wait it out. Block, interrupt or wait it out. Try toburst before they get another cooldown back” not to mention that they heal 400-700 hps when theyre invulnerable, and hoping that no one comes to help them while you spend all that time trying to kill one. I remember when we used to laugh at a signet warrior lol

Not to mention all the pet builds. You outright have to outplay by quite a bit these builds to kill them. I dont mind builds being OP, there will always be OP classes and builds with each patch and the meta will shift, but this current meta is focused on passive abilities. I get Anet is trying to get the PvE community to play more pvp since the community has died out, but making PvP simpler is not the way. Im still winning most of my matches, but its not fun anymore…

TL;DR: Win or Lose the current meta is not fun. Please take a look at it Anet, take some drastic changes for once and switch around the meta to make it more dynamic.

Only warriors being named again ? How many matches Did you play ? What about the OP engies,necros,guardians,mesmers,“Some” thiefs.. ? There are several of those in every pvp match aswell…But no, no thats not interesting lets just follow the qq train to warrior land.

Other classes can have some easy to play or somewhat op build but none can be as remotely infuriating as warrior, simple as that. I almost never lose a 1vs1 against warriors, it’s not that the build is OP, it’s that the build is terribly unfun to play against because even a SERIOUSLY BAD player can survive for way longer than they should. The amount of immunities, stability, sustain etc is just too much. When I engage a war on my engi and he pops his godkitten berserker stance, all I can do is kite him around for 10 seconds. Is it fun? Is it really fun?

Remember OP’s thread is about what is fun, not what might be seen as OP per see. Warrior is just the least fun class/builds to play against by far. That includes other passive builds like Spirit Ranger. Spirit Rangers don’t have billions of blocks, condi removal and immunities.

The typical hambow build isn’t too horrible to play against but what some of the random baddies run in soloq as bunkers with maximum defensive traits and amulet is just too much. It’s actually a lot, lot worse than trying to take down the typical bunker guardian.

- “No tears, please. It’s a waste of good suffering.”

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Posted by: redslion.9675

redslion.9675

The warrior class got full of tryhards. So I decided to go dps guardian. It’s weaker? Who cares! I can destroy most warriors and play a class that requires dignity.

You will never be able to know what an engineer is going to do next…

because he doesn’t know it himself

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Posted by: Nemiros.3590

Nemiros.3590

Herro~

I recently came back to my favorite PvP game to enjoy the dynamic combat that I love from GW2 pvp.

Basically the game is nothing how I remember it to be. It turns out that matches have become who has the most warriors, and these new warriors are ridiculous. It has become a game of waiting out CDs. “there goes berserker stance, kitten, first endure pain, burst. Passive endure pain, wait it out. Block, interrupt or wait it out. Try toburst before they get another cooldown back” not to mention that they heal 400-700 hps when theyre invulnerable, and hoping that no one comes to help them while you spend all that time trying to kill one. I remember when we used to laugh at a signet warrior lol

Not to mention all the pet builds. You outright have to outplay by quite a bit these builds to kill them. I dont mind builds being OP, there will always be OP classes and builds with each patch and the meta will shift, but this current meta is focused on passive abilities. I get Anet is trying to get the PvE community to play more pvp since the community has died out, but making PvP simpler is not the way. Im still winning most of my matches, but its not fun anymore…

TL;DR: Win or Lose the current meta is not fun. Please take a look at it Anet, take some drastic changes for once and switch around the meta to make it more dynamic.

Only warriors being named again ? How many matches Did you play ? What about the OP engies,necros,guardians,mesmers,“Some” thiefs.. ? There are several of those in every pvp match aswell…But no, no thats not interesting lets just follow the qq train to warrior land.

Other classes can have some easy to play or somewhat op build but none can be as remotely infuriating as warrior, simple as that. I almost never lose a 1vs1 against warriors, it’s not that the build is OP, it’s that the build is terribly unfun to play against because even a SERIOUSLY BAD player can survive for way longer than they should. The amount of immunities, stability, sustain etc is just too much. When I engage a war on my engi and he pops his godkitten berserker stance, all I can do is kite him around for 10 seconds. Is it fun? Is it really fun?

Remember OP’s thread is about what is fun, not what might be seen as OP per see. Warrior is just the least fun class/builds to play against by far. That includes other passive builds like Spirit Ranger. Spirit Rangers don’t have billions of blocks, condi removal and immunities.

The typical hambow build isn’t too horrible to play against but what some of the random baddies run in soloq as bunkers with maximum defensive traits and amulet is just too much. It’s actually a lot, lot worse than trying to take down the typical bunker guardian.

This is exactly what i was trying to say, thanks for getting my point.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

The Meta shifted towards more and more unfun builds to play and to play against. Even watch it is for me personally a pain. There is no big plays to observe, some good bursts or any other quality gaming we had a year ago. It’s just pure sustain and sustained damage, with many immunities and low-risk-high-reward-builds.

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