Guild Wars 2

I had a random thought and I honestly feel like this would not only help thieves out with a much needed buff to help keep up with power creep but would also help with build diversity while not pushing us into levels of being OP as sin, because face it, if we get more damage we’ll just turn into one trick ponies that are incredibly boring and lame to play – but we do need a little help in this patch to keep up.

Why I say this? As either a burst or condition thief, it’s easy to have a lot traited into steal, and the lack of Bountiful Theft can completely nullify Mug, Improvisation and Bewildering Ambush or Sleight of Hand – not to mention the lack of steal effects you get simply because an Aegis boon popped up right as you used steal – then there’s the fact you do not steal boons (on top of being able to steal Aegis) or the ability to steal stability, which is huge. The other traits don’t even compare to this, this is something thieves NEED and makes taking a would-be good choice for burst thief or would-be good choice for condi thief pretty much counter intuitive. There really isn’t a choice.

Also, in favor of P/P thieves missing Ricochet trait … not that I use it … perhaps considering returning it in slot for Bountiful Theft – or at least something else like Piercing Shots … let it pierce / hit up to 3 targets? Something to give P/P and P/D a little more viability against tons of clones / pets / turrets / grouped players etc. Just some ideas, I don’t care what, but give the P/X thieves some love – this would then give some actual options that feel like valid choices for various thief types.

I don’t play P/P or P/D but I can’t see that being a terrible thing to add to the list of being potentially viable considering how generally useless they seem in PvP (at least P/P which needs the most love, hence suggested trait ideas), especially with multiple players present. And in any case, if Bountiful Theft was baseline this would allow for Pressure Striking – Trickster – or whatever other option, to allow being chosen without simply gimping thief play style overall – hell it might allow for something other than Trickery being taken which if I’m not mistaken, would support the idea of “Build Diversity”.

Forgive me if post is redundant or has ridiculously bad wording, I’m really tired upon writing this. :l

Hmmm……no.

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I don’t understand your argument. You are basically saying that bountiful theft should be baseline because not having bountiful theft allows people to counter steal. Where’s my boon strip for hammer warrior?

Random Weird Guy.3528:

I don’t understand your argument. You are basically saying that bountiful theft should be baseline because not having bountiful theft allows people to counter steal. Where’s my boon strip for hammer warrior?

Just press rampage

Random Weird Guy.3528:

I don’t understand your argument. You are basically saying that bountiful theft should be baseline because not having bountiful theft allows people to counter steal. Where’s my boon strip for hammer warrior?

Well, honestly mesmers got several traits as a baseline due to ‘’them being too important for the class.’’ Steal without Bountiful theft and the whole trickery line is terrible and every single thief has to take it if they wan’t to be useful in pvp. By the logic they followed on mesmers it should be baseline.

I’m not sure how to feel about this. Steal is weak and compared to other classes mechanics (mesmer, engi….) it’s a complete joke if untraited.

Laraley.7695:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

I don’t understand your argument. You are basically saying that bountiful theft should be baseline because not having bountiful theft allows people to counter steal. Where’s my boon strip for hammer warrior?

Well, honestly mesmers got several traits as a baseline due to ‘’them being too important for the class.’’ Steal without Bountiful theft and the whole trickery line is terrible and every single thief has to take it if they wan’t to be useful in pvp. By the logic they followed on mesmers it should be baseline.

I’m not sure how to feel about this. Steal is weak and compared to other classes mechanics (mesmer, engi….) it’s a complete joke if untraited.

Yes but then you have to think about every other class. Would be easier just to remove a couple of mesmer baseline stuff.

Bountiful theft should NOT be baseline. If anything, the additional 3 initiative should be baseline.

^ True words. Things go baseline because a class can’t function without them. Bountiful theft doesn’t fit that criteria.

Spurrlock.3219:

^ True words. Things go baseline because a class can’t function without them. Bountiful theft doesn’t fit that criteria.

When did you see a viable thief build without Bountiful theft in pvp?

style.6173:

Bountiful theft should NOT be baseline. If anything, the additional 3 initiative should be baseline.

+1

Laraley.7695:

Spurrlock.3219:

^ True words. Things go baseline because a class can’t function without them. Bountiful theft doesn’t fit that criteria.

When did you see a viable thief build without Bountiful theft in pvp?

I see plenty of thieves running with the tricks trait over bountiful theft and they do just fine in the AG tournaments.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Laraley.7695:

Spurrlock.3219:

^ True words. Things go baseline because a class can’t function without them. Bountiful theft doesn’t fit that criteria.

When did you see a viable thief build without Bountiful theft in pvp?

I see plenty of thieves running with the tricks trait over bountiful theft and they do just fine in the AG tournaments.

Uhhh… No?

Will be a bit op

tbh, i think thieves and maybe necros are most balanced classes right now; if anything other classes need to be toned down to their level…

if we keep throwing random buffs at classes the power creep will just reach insane levels