Guild Wars 2

Simple solution to all these problems.

Bring back SoloQ and this will save Arena Net the hours these programmers have been putting in to trying to solve the matchmaking issue.

Taking SoloQ away was the worst decision.

The previous problem was that SoloQ and TeamQ had un-equal rewards! And that is why people would SoloQ in TeamQ.

+1

If they brought back solo q and gave the same rewards as team q to it I would be so happy. It’s really hard to be hopeful and optimistic about that though. I’m just trying to get used to getting endlessly crushed by full premades for now though. :c

As someone new to PvP what exactly was SoloQ and how is it different now, why was it taken away? I’ve played Practice and Unranked so does this have something to do wiht Ranked?

Thanks!

SoloQ SoloQ! bangs fist on table

Fighting premades isnt fun nor is it fair! Reverse this experiment!

Kythan Myr.4719:

As someone new to PvP what exactly was SoloQ and how is it different now, why was it taken away? I’ve played Practice and Unranked so does this have something to do wiht Ranked?

Thanks!

Solo queue consisted only of players queueing by themselves so you’d (theoretically) never get matched against a team.

Kako.1930:

+1

If they brought back solo q and gave the same rewards as team q to it I would be so happy. It’s really hard to be hopeful and optimistic about that though. I’m just trying to get used to getting endlessly crushed by full premades for now though. :c

Absolutely! I keep hoping I’ll get lucky but at the moment I’m sitting at 1 win and 5 losses. It’s just disheartening. Thankfully, unranked has been pretty good so far, though.

lol when SoloQ existed people kept QQing until they got rid of it and now that it’s finally gone you want it back? pff If I were Anet I’d stop listening to the forums at all….

Make a team, problem solved.

as a guy who solos a lot and a guy who plays with a LOT of people, I’d like to see solo ranked and unranked as an option.

Would it really be hard to jury rig the old solo queue system and add two buttons below ranked and unranked queue?

Ostricheggs.3742:

as a guy who solos a lot and a guy who plays with a LOT of people, I’d like to see solo ranked and unranked as an option.

Would it really be hard to jury rig the old solo queue system and add two buttons below ranked and unranked queue?

Please anet, i feel like im being forced to stop playing my favorite part of the game. Do this

Ostricheggs.3742:

as a guy who solos a lot and a guy who plays with a LOT of people, I’d like to see solo ranked and unranked as an option.

Would it really be hard to jury rig the old solo queue system and add two buttons below ranked and unranked queue?

Maybe there are not enough premades groups and the queues would be very long even at prime time. I play with few friends and we are all very high ranked in this flawed leaderboard and still we don’t find that many premades, maybe 2 every 5 matches ?

verskore.4312:

lol when SoloQ existed people kept QQing until they got rid of it and now that it’s finally gone you want it back? pff If I were Anet I’d stop listening to the forums at all….

Noone wanted soloQ to be removed.

Ostricheggs.3742:

as a guy who solos a lot and a guy who plays with a LOT of people, I’d like to see solo ranked and unranked as an option.

Would it really be hard to jury rig the old solo queue system and add two buttons below ranked and unranked queue?

We do not have the population to support that. Otherwise, I think we would have it.

adam.8692:

Make a team, problem solved.

this.

I would like to have the possibility of seeing who teamed up with who at the end of the game. Countless times, in a match were my foes were crushed, one of them wrote in map chat: “premade vs soloers, how fun!”, when actually we were all solo players. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think in many cases it’s just the egos talking (I lost, so they must be a premade).

adam.8692:

Make a team, problem solved.

What and wait around for 3 hours to find someone to play with. Then someone goes afk after 1 game. Then another person afk after another game. Then someone has dinner at 6pm. Then another person has dinner at 6.30 pm. Then you have to find replacements. But it takes time to find someone who fits with the team. Then you have the fact that 90% of gw2 community are cry babies and kittenbags. So they will rage quit the team if you struggle one game. Then you have some people insisting on teamspeak to play. bla bla bla, so many issues.

Forming a team is not a solution, it is an even bigger problem.

Sorel.4870:

I would like to have the possibility of seeing who teamed up with who at the end of the game. Countless times, in a match were my foes were crushed, one of them wrote in map chat: “premade vs soloers, how fun!”, when actually we were all solo players. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think in many cases it’s just the egos talking (I lost, so they must be a premade).

Keeping solo and premade apart isn’t a solution. The good thing about the old solo queue was you could queue up and play with other people your level in fun games. That isn’t the case now. When you queue solo you get in games with many beginners. Not enough people solo queue currently (who are decent) because the system is so frustrating.

Yea…queueing for ranked games as solo seems to be at a serious disadvantage.

Now I’m goin solo unranked and I get SALT premade.

GG anet, thx for takin away that last thing I enjoyed.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Keeping solo and premade apart isn’t a solution. The good thing about the old solo queue was you could queue up and play with other people your level in fun games. That isn’t the case now.

I am not really sure what part of this simplicity of thought seems to escape the Anet team.

They need to stop listening to the 60 or so pro players and listen to the people who pay their bills.

I admit to being an average player. I would like a casual alternative for when my friends are not on.

SoloQ was the best thing this game had going for it pvp-wise. I could log in and play knowing that the teams were sorted fairly (as possible) and that people were not purposefully stacking a bunch of fotm classes. There was a certain fairness to SoloQ that is lacking now.

I don’t know if this would be as big an issue if some classes were not flat out better than others and people could stack them. This has really become a big issue since SoloQ was ended.

SoloQ was fun and it was fair. It drew a nice line between the serious and casual. I see no reason why it was taken out.

Relentliss.2170:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Keeping solo and premade apart isn’t a solution. The good thing about the old solo queue was you could queue up and play with other people your level in fun games. That isn’t the case now.

I am not really sure what part of this simplicity of thought seems to escape the Anet team.

They need to stop listening to the 60 or so pro players and listen to the people who pay their bills.

I admit to being an average player. I would like a casual alternative for when my friends are not on.

SoloQ was the best thing this game had going for it pvp-wise. I could log in and play knowing that the teams were sorted fairly (as possible) and that people were not purposefully stacking a bunch of fotm classes. There was a certain fairness to SoloQ that is lacking now.

I don’t know if this would be as big an issue if some classes were not flat out better than others and people could stack them. This has really become a big issue since SoloQ was ended.

SoloQ was fun and it was fair. It drew a nice line between the serious and casual. I see no reason why it was taken out.

There are some pro-players asking for solo queue back lol.

“Bring SoloQ Back” – Subscribe to the proposal.
After the patch games have become a nuisance and annoying. Just a week before the patch I wrote on the forum that I love PvP in GW2, but now I do not see in this format neither pleasure nor meaning, one negative.

We need soloQ back.
This game not Dota2 or other MOBA, we can’t farm 40 min and then win game solo, just because you carry. In GW2 sPvP premade have HUGE advantage, even 2-3 dudes in a party can roflstomp soloers from other team. Even if other team also have this 2-3 man party. And other party is just random people from HotM, who make premade just because “oh, we are dragons, we cool”. No voice, no communication. And vs this friends in TS.
Practice, Ranked and Unranked soloQ, Ranked and Unranked teamQ – it’s not so hard, but we want it. We need it.
Thanks for reading.

Oh people just quit the game or obey Anet’s decision plz. you have only these 2 choices becuz they didnt make new system that separates soloq and teamq. Even though they declaire bringing back soloq today, it will take at least an half an year becuz half an year ago they declared this update lol. you have to wait half an year!

Theologus.7085:

We need soloQ back.
This game not Dota2 or other MOBA, we can’t farm 40 min and then win game solo, just because you carry. In GW2 sPvP premade have HUGE advantage, even 2-3 dudes in a party can roflstomp soloers from other team. Even if other team also have this 2-3 man party. And other party is just random people from HotM, who make premade just because “oh, we are dragons, we cool”. No voice, no communication. And vs this friends in TS.
Practice, Ranked and Unranked soloQ, Ranked and Unranked teamQ – it’s not so hard, but we want it. We need it.
Thanks for reading.

Or remove soloq entirely, because like you said, we can’t carry. It’s a teamgame. :p
Might have been better if it was like this initially, without soloq. Would have made the game healthier team-wise. Now we’re spoiled because of soloq and there is no turning back.

(Before you rip my head off: I’m in favor of a quality soloq experience).

butch.8136:

Theologus.7085:

We need soloQ back.
This game not Dota2 or other MOBA, we can’t farm 40 min and then win game solo, just because you carry. In GW2 sPvP premade have HUGE advantage, even 2-3 dudes in a party can roflstomp soloers from other team. Even if other team also have this 2-3 man party. And other party is just random people from HotM, who make premade just because “oh, we are dragons, we cool”. No voice, no communication. And vs this friends in TS.
Practice, Ranked and Unranked soloQ, Ranked and Unranked teamQ – it’s not so hard, but we want it. We need it.
Thanks for reading.

Or remove soloq entirely, because like you said, we can’t carry. It’s a teamgame. :p
Might have been better if it was like this initially, without soloq. Would have made the game healthier team-wise. Now we’re spoiled because of soloq and there is no turning back.

(Before you rip my head off: I’m in favor of a quality soloq experience).

That would literally kill the pvp community and you would have 20+ minute queues.

butch.8136:

Or remove soloq entirely, because like you said, we can’t carry. It’s a teamgame. :p
Might have been better if it was like this initially, without soloq. Would have made the game healthier team-wise. Now we’re spoiled because of soloq and there is no turning back.

(Before you rip my head off: I’m in favor of a quality soloq experience).

Nope, game must provide solo favor. This game never say “get team, guild, 100 mans clan or GTFO”. For adult man with job and family have permanent team maybe very hard. And current state kill fun for this people. Not each man want premade, team or have friends in MMO.
I drop ranked because this leaderboard just grind.
I dont want drop all arenas because premade win me with 500-50 score. It’s occurs infrequently, but after 3-5-10 cool and fun matches (with lose ofc) this make me cry at heart. 4v5 hotjoins more fun than this.

I agree we need soloQ back. Today in rankedQ first game I faced a 5 man premade when I was soloQing. This mightve been ok if the players were average or sonething, but it was a pretty decent level super pug. Also matchmaker is broken. I had like 4 games today in which I faced Noscoc and friends when it was just me and my friend duoQing. Literally every single game was close to 500-0. Its not even a player skill issue on my part the pugs we were with simply lacked the ability to actually do something, which isnt their fault, its Anets for putting them in that situation.

-Teef Teef Teef Teef

solo should never go against group of any size, regardless of wait time.

What was the reasoning behind removing solo queue? I thought they went out of their to add it into the game separate from team queue a long while back.

nope, soloq is garbage and it will separate the pop again. I like instant queues, and soloq’ers will get separated from the premades as the season progresses.

mistsim.2748:

nope, soloq is garbage and it will separate the pop again. I like instant queues, and soloq’ers will get separated from the premades as the season progresses.

This is still “beta season,” the new matchmaking changes are heavily favored towards helping soloq more (same class, 4v5s, etc), this was almost a non-existent problem in teamq granted there was a larger wait time (depending what time you play). If you prefer forming a team on ts and rolling over non-organized groups because the new system considers your rank 90% or something is not fun, you won’t get better at this game rolling over worser players (it might inflate your ego though).

In regards to more people playing a broken system, people are complaining about the current system now and you expect the population to grow?

edit:
Almost forgot to add that pvp devs said bringing back soloq was off the table, they are “satisfied” with their new system. If any dev wants to reply to this, they would explicitly say soloq is coming back. (no response to my comment)

Lordrosicky.5813:

Sorel.4870:

I would like to have the possibility of seeing who teamed up with who at the end of the game. Countless times, in a match were my foes were crushed, one of them wrote in map chat: “premade vs soloers, how fun!”, when actually we were all solo players. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think in many cases it’s just the egos talking (I lost, so they must be a premade).

Keeping solo and premade apart isn’t a solution. The good thing about the old solo queue was you could queue up and play with other people your level in fun games. That isn’t the case now. When you queue solo you get in games with many beginners. Not enough people solo queue currently (who are decent) because the system is so frustrating.

I must admit I’m not under the same impression. Before the patch, I was around 95% in the soloq leaderboard, and I played with and against either complete noobs (I mean, “what is close?” kind of noobs) or ROM. Since the patch, it’s not really more balanced (I’d say a little bit), but the queue times are much shorter!

Furthermore, this thread specifically asks for the return of soloq, but you say solos against premades is not the problem? The problem with soloq is that no matter how good you are, it’s always RNG: if your teammates are better than your foes, usually, you’ll win. And like I said, I’d like an option to be added to know for sure that I’m not against a premade. I mean, one 3-man party once in a while is ok, but right now you can only guess when it happens.

Sorel.4870:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Sorel.4870:

I would like to have the possibility of seeing who teamed up with who at the end of the game. Countless times, in a match were my foes were crushed, one of them wrote in map chat: “premade vs soloers, how fun!”, when actually we were all solo players. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think in many cases it’s just the egos talking (I lost, so they must be a premade).

Keeping solo and premade apart isn’t a solution. The good thing about the old solo queue was you could queue up and play with other people your level in fun games. That isn’t the case now. When you queue solo you get in games with many beginners. Not enough people solo queue currently (who are decent) because the system is so frustrating.

I must admit I’m not under the same impression. Before the patch, I was around 95% in the soloq leaderboard, and I played with and against either complete noobs (I mean, “what is close?” kind of noobs) or ROM. Since the patch, it’s not really more balanced (I’d say a little bit), but the queue times are much shorter!

Furthermore, this thread specifically asks for the return of soloq, but you say solos against premades is not the problem? The problem with soloq is that no matter how good you are, it’s always RNG: if your teammates are better than your foes, usually, you’ll win. And like I said, I’d like an option to be added to know for sure that I’m not against a premade. I mean, one 3-man party once in a while is ok, but right now you can only guess when it happens.

Pretty sure I’m not the only one here, but I would take a dice roll chance to win as long as I face 5 randoms relative to my own standing (or face a complete blowout to random stacked matches, because when you soloq, you expect to lose).

XGhoul.7426:

Almost forgot to add that pvp devs said bringing back soloq was off the table, they are “satisfied” with their new system. If any dev wants to reply to this, they would explicitly say soloq is coming back. (no response to my comment)

They don’t need to add a new queue just more strict filters. They are being “hesitant” despite nearly universal reports of the system not meeting expectations.

Solo queue would be alive and well (contained within the same queue) if they merely changed a few parameters.

If you queue solo you should either face solos (and maybe 2 man teams) OR you should fill out a team playing another team. Very simple. What is it taking so long?

The other, less desirable option is to multiply a team’s MMR dependent on the number they have in group such that top tier solos get faced against mid tier teams.

And to the many, many mediocre premades bragging about beating solos…I ask this. What about the update improved your skill level so much? Did the light just turn on? Did you finally get a feel for the game? Is your true potential finally being realized?

OR could it possibly be you are now facing better players in compromised team compositions (in other words, solos).

Na, let’s just stick with you got a whole lot better.

Sorel.4870:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Sorel.4870:

I would like to have the possibility of seeing who teamed up with who at the end of the game. Countless times, in a match were my foes were crushed, one of them wrote in map chat: “premade vs soloers, how fun!”, when actually we were all solo players. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think in many cases it’s just the egos talking (I lost, so they must be a premade).

Keeping solo and premade apart isn’t a solution. The good thing about the old solo queue was you could queue up and play with other people your level in fun games. That isn’t the case now. When you queue solo you get in games with many beginners. Not enough people solo queue currently (who are decent) because the system is so frustrating.

I must admit I’m not under the same impression. Before the patch, I was around 95% in the soloq leaderboard, and I played with and against either complete noobs (I mean, “what is close?” kind of noobs) or ROM. Since the patch, it’s not really more balanced (I’d say a little bit), but the queue times are much shorter!

Furthermore, this thread specifically asks for the return of soloq, but you say solos against premades is not the problem? The problem with soloq is that no matter how good you are, it’s always RNG: if your teammates are better than your foes, usually, you’ll win. And like I said, I’d like an option to be added to know for sure that I’m not against a premade. I mean, one 3-man party once in a while is ok, but right now you can only guess when it happens.

To be honest if you were 95% then you were rightfully put with average players because your rating was average. It was a good system if it kept you away from the top players most of the time.

As for premade vs solo. It isn’t as bad as getting paired with just total % players in solo queue. But it does suck alot. Removing solo queue I thought would be good because they could make the new system work. But they couldn’t. The new system is terrible from top to bottom:
1, The ready button sucks because you now can’t leave your pc in between games
2, Having to sit in HOTM waiting for a pop is terrible
3, Matchmaking is non-existant
4, Only way for matchmkaing to be better is longer queue times which means problems 1 and 2 are unworkably bad

So there is no positives. Things can only get worse. The solutions to the problems contradict each other, because the system is so poorly designed.

They took away solo queue? ((sorry , been away)

That is about the most kittened thing Anet has done in a while.

Terrible. I am speechless. I am without speech…