[Bug?] Instants Not Working Mid-Air

[Bug?] Instants Not Working Mid-Air

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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So, I noticed today things have felt a bit clunky. And maybe it has been this way for a while, but I never noticed it until recently (so I think its new?) but warrior instants don’t trigger when jumping like other classes do. I realized today I felt like I was having massive amounts of skill lag, and I’m thinking its just because instant skills aren’t triggering mid-air like most classes do. For instance any time I try to jump terrain and use my Berserker stance to not be feared/cced, I’ve noticed I get feared and look down and it just didn’t go off. Now I know why.

Is this intended or a bug, and is it new? I tested 3-4 other classes, all instant abilities would go off even mid-air, but on warrior these spells are completely locked when falling/midair:
– “For Great Justice!”
- “On My Mark!”
- Berserker Stance
– Balance Stance
– Dolyak Signet

All other shouts/stances/signets that are instant work normally. I thought maybe this was an new feature to stop Spectral Walk fall-jukes, but it works as it always has. Could be that it has always been this way and I don’t play warrior enough to notice it, but this is pretty silly…

(Side note)And also, I’ve having some issues with Earth shaker having a REALLY slow reaction time when I use it, sometimes I don’t even leap at all, some time later I just teleport to roughly where I wanted to go, sometimes it just triggers super slow, and other times it doesn’t go off at all (which may be related to the bug with being immobilized in mid-air).

The only thing I can really say to this is, just for the sake of getting rid of some clunkiness of the game, just allow us to start casting mid-air… We can already do if it we jump after we cast, so what’s the huge difference? Stuff like this is just annoying to deal with, especially with all the teleports in the game, sometimes jumping is necessary with terrain, and it gives some classes weird/unintended advantages and its just clunky feeling in general.

Accidentally posted in the wrong section before.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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P.S. This can cause Balance Stance to not properly work as a stun breaker for launches depending on how you’re hit by them.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Update: Apparently it spreads across the classes, its just really selective as to which abilities it affects this way. These are all of the ones for Necromancer, Ranger, Warrior and Guardian.
Necromancer:
- Plague Signet
- Corrupt Boon
- Doom (DS3)
- Plague Form abilities.

Guardian:
- Shield of Wrath (Focus 5)
- Wall of Reflection
- (Side note) Stand your ground DOES work, so Balance stance/Signet of Dolyak should. It isn’t stability related.
- Signet of Judgement
- “Retreat!”

Ranger:
- Lightning Reflexes (I could understand movement-based holds.)
- “Protect Me!”
- “Search and Rescue”
- “Sic Em!”
- Signet of Stone
- Signet of the Hunt
- Crippling Shot

Warrior:
– “For Great Justice!”
- “On My Mark!”
- Berserker Stance
– Balance Stance
– Dolyak Signet

I really don’t understand the different rules. Why do some work when mid-air, and others do not…

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Bump for an answer to why some abilities are like this.

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Posted by: DanyK.3842

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It’s been around for ages and I find it frustrating when I jump around to show friendliness in WvW and some anti-roleplay kid group decides to go gank me anyway and they immobilise me mid air. I can’t use some of the skills that could save me which is frustrating.
On another note Earthshaker is one of the buggiest skills in game. I had it bug out 4 times in the same game yesterday which caused me to not get my burst off and 1 time to fail to stop a res and a stomp. Although I believe this has to do with packets of information sent and received on the server side.

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Posted by: Cush.4063

Cush.4063

I’ve never been able to use skills midair and I main aesmer >.>

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Cush, we’re referring to instant spells. AI Shatters, and utilities that have no “cast time” indicated on the tooltip. I didn’t check if it worked with Mesmers since I wasn’t playing one. Feel free to go through any 0 cast spells, jump and report back with which ones do and which ones do not work.

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Posted by: Xenu.1960

Xenu.1960

Cush, we’re referring to instant spells. AI Shatters, and utilities that have no “cast time” indicated on the tooltip. I didn’t check if it worked with Mesmers since I wasn’t playing one. Feel free to go through any 0 cast spells, jump and report back with which ones do and which ones do not work.

Shatters do work mid air.

Mesmer instant spells that do not work mid-air:
- Phase Retreat
- Chaos Armor
- Decoy
- Mirror Images
- Blink
- The Prestige
- Portal
- Feedback
- Mantra of Pain/Distraction/Resolve/Concentration (instant part of them)

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Thanks, Xenu. We just need Engineer, Thief and Elementalist now, but I find these skills odd. Some of them I understand due to pathing, or having to do with summoning an entity in mid-air, but all of the others absolutely make no sense. For example “Hold the Line” shout works for Guardian, which is just boons, but “For Great Justice” doesn’t work as a warrior in mid-air. Again, it’s just boons. This definitely causes some clunkiness, and should be changed so that all instants work one way or the other.

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