Guild Wars 2

Hey everyone, I have an engineer and in tPvP I’m trying to learn how to play kit bunker build with him. But after meeting more and more guardians with bunker builds it seems they are really way better, especialy on clock tower with wall etc.

Do you think that bunker engineer can be as useful for team as bunker guardian?

Obviously a Guardian is better than an Engineer at bunkering, they just got too much surviviability.

But yeah obviously, an Engineer can always be useful.

it might be more useful in other situations. plus im sure alot of people are sick of seeing 2 bunker guardians in most teams then watching them play a simple game plan with tedius inevitability.

Being a Engie bunker is not as easy to learn when compared to the guardian. Plus guardian is naturally a “in yo face” class anyway. They are both useful if handled correctly.

Guard. Period. Gives team stability (most important), healing, better CC, can deal with conditions better, and a game changing healing elite. Basically takes more skill and is more rewarding.

Schwahrheit.4203:

Basically takes more skill and is more rewarding.

Hahah, what a joker. This guy. Infinitely more skill required when playing an engineer compared to a guardian, at best a guard has to time when they pop their virtues. But you’re obviously joking since everyone knew that.

Schwahrheit.4203:

Guard. Period. Gives team stability (most important), healing, better CC, can deal with conditions better, and a game changing healing elite. Basically takes more skill and is more rewarding.

Guardians take skill? wot.

Yeah I used to think Eng were better bunkers but as I played more it was just because I did not run into many good guardians and most eng are decent players.

A well played guardian is the better bunker however Eng are better bunkers in a team fight imo.

I play a bunker engineer with good success. They’re most tournament-viable when part of an engi-guard dual bunker on a mid-point. As solo bunkers they’re not bad.

Guardians are honestly better in almost every way. Engineers have a couple of fun quirks that keep them competitive, though. Engineers are much better at AoE damage than guardians, which is really nice for 1v2s, or especially 2v3 and 2v4.

Engineers also team quite well with necros. They apply more conditions than guardians, so epidemic gets better. They also have a lot of knockback/blowout ability, which isn’t as useful for burst classes as stuns, immobilize, or especially knockdowns, because engineers basically slow the fight way down. That’s good if your opponents all have bleed stacks on them.

They are also good solo bunkering, but lose to hard cc, since they don’t have stability.

Thanks all for sharing your thoughts on this. I’m not sure if I should make a guardian, I really love my engineer so I probably won’t, I just need to train more or change my build. Those who play engineer, could you share your build, if its not a secret?

This is what I use:

http://www.gw2build.com/builds/simulator.php#1.4.6.0.19.0.0.0.0.0.80.96.97.94.102.8.0.0.228.0.0.0.0.0.256.262.0.271.274.0.291.293.0.10.0.20.20.20

Sigils I haven’t figure out yet so I’m not tellin you which I use, its in progress.
Runes are dolyak. All six of em.

Its a kit bunker build with a lot of swiftness and vigor every 5 sec which does help a lot. Also cooldowns on shield and tool kit make two block skills ready when you need them (most of the time). What I’ve been having problem with is conditions, I really hate those so heavy condition necro is pain in my … kit. Was thinking to change elixir gun for elixir against conditions but still, I love elixir gun, you gotta love it, with pistol you can hold poison on your enemy a lot and get conditions down from your team. Cripple etc as bonus.

Here’s the breakdown from a player who has played 600+ as Guardian, 500+ as Engineer, and usually plays bunker in tournament play.

Guardian has more damage mitigation, invulnerable moves, the full heal elite, and the most important thing as mentioned, the ability to give group stability.

Engineer has better damage output as a bunker (turret bunker), can build a massive amount of knockbacks (buys more time and can contest nodes without having to kill enemy player and is a massive bonues to mid on Kylo), can build a huge self-healing or self-rez build, and has one of the best elites for knocking people off a point in the entire game.

For sheer survivability vs. more than 1-2 players, Guardian will always be the better bunker, though they will not kill anything but maybe a silly burst thief or so.

However, a bunker Engineer, while unable to fend off waves and waves for quite as long, will actually kill the other player 1v1 more often than not, unless they are running the self-heal Elixer build, in which case, they are basically on par with Guardian on a 1v1 basis.

IMO, Engineers are more suited to bunker than most professions and if you put a little time in you’ll see they are hands down the best CC profession in the game. The irony is the thing that defeats a bunker Engi the best is stability (and a few bugs), if not for that, they would be the best bunkers in the game.