Guild Wars 2

Before I get started – I’ll state that bunker mesmer is ridiculously good in organized play, as its two biggest strengths (teamfight support and open utility slot [ex: portal]) are best maximized here. However, the purpose of this thread is to talk about solo queue play, where the two aforementioned strengths rarely come into play.

As I’ve been moving up the “solo” ranked ladder, I’ve really found Bunker Mesmer to be hindered by the following obstacles:

1. The meta has caused everyone to bring builds with sustain – DH’s, Revs, Druids, etc. A bunker mesmer is not great at winning enemy-captured points, nor is it good at being a +1 on point assault that quickly spikes down an enemy of most classes. In the time it takes to effectively assault a point, the other team (usually an organized premade) outcaps you.

2. Teammates rarely utilize your wells to full advantages. You’ll see friendly thieves, DH’s, Revs, etc. all dodgerolling away from your wells and you just facepalm.

3. In this meta, chances are your team will already have 2 “bunkers.” I have seen way too many minion Necros or DH players (even in ruby/sapphire+) just stand on points and not move. If your team gets outmaneuvered and double capped, you are screwed.

If your team has any players who refuse to cap lightly guarded far points (highly likely with PUGs), you are screwed because of limited mobility and your lack of dps.

4. This is the key – due to poor matchmaking, over half of the teams you face are premades/guild teams. They simply feed on brainless PUG teams that zerg and don’t emphasize mobility and communication.

Building off of these points, I’d say that Bunker Mesmer is worse for solo queue than any build that has sustain but outputs better DPS. This isn’t to say it can’t be effective, but it doesn’t help solo players who want to have high impact vs premades.

Daredevil vault spam best carry class at low mmr, bunker mesmer is still best at high mmr.

Good points. Makes sense.

In my opinions decent Bunker Mesmer carries PUGs like no tomorrow, since soloq often isn’t organized enough to play around it. Sure, it might not have full potential, but by just sharing boons, rezzing and not dying you often create a wall people have hard time getting through.

The “meta” Support Bunker places emphasis on support. Its survivability is actually worse than dedicated Chronobunkers. Without good teammates to support you’re far better off running a different Chronobunker build than the meta one.

I agree with Laserbolt. Nice post, gives some nice food for thought. Thank you!

Omg, a bunker class that excels in organized teamfighting isn’t that good in kitten a kitten pug groups?

Someone call Huffpost.

They are pretty easy to kill in most circumstances – as many people fail to play the chronobunker well.

TPMN.1483:

They are pretty easy to kill in most circumstances – as many people fail to play the chronobunker well.

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I killed one on rev in 1v1 lol.

DH is definitely not a bunker if you think that and leave them in bad situations your team will be screwed

Belial.9350:

TPMN.1483:

They are pretty easy to kill in most circumstances – as many people fail to play the chronobunker well.

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I killed one on rev in 1v1 lol.

Condi rev?

I have beaten one multiple times on Ele and Engineer for starters.