Can 'Weapon Swap' be the legend swap button?

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Posted by: Shockwave.1230

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Since Revenant doesn’t swap weapons and can only have 2 legends, instead of having to change my keybinds can there be an option to toggle the Weapon Swap keybind to swap legends?

Would save some time when swapping between professions <3

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Posted by: Akikaze.1307

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W is the default key for forward movement. If you want to use that key, just rebind it to something else. I cannot think how Revenant would affect our current keybind setup, it’ll use the default F1-F4 (or whatever you binded them as) for its profession specific skills, in this case legend swapping.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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I think what he’s saying is instead of it being the Class 1 ability (F1) allow it to also function with the weapon swap key (’) or whatever default is.

I think that’d be nice if both were usable so no extra configuration needs to happen, since otherwise one will just be unused anyways, might as well enable both to function the swap mechanic.

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Posted by: Shockwave.1230

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I think what he’s saying is instead of it being the Class 1 ability (F1) allow it to also function with the weapon swap key (’) or whatever default is.

I think that’d be nice if both were usable so no extra configuration needs to happen, since otherwise one will just be unused anyways, might as well enable both to function the swap mechanic.

Yes, sorry my keybinds are weird. editing the post

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Norn Guardian – Aurora Lustyr (Lv 80)
Mia A Shadows Glow – Human Thief (Lv 80)

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Posted by: Exedore.6320

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Won’t happen. Weapon Swap key is used to drop bundles (e.g. Fiery Greatsword) and Revenants will most likely be able to swap legends while holding a bundle.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Won’t happen. Weapon Swap key is used to drop bundles (e.g. Fiery Greatsword) and Revenants will most likely be able to swap legends while holding a bundle.

Could still be an option. Mechanics would be simple. Weapon swap (‘) would just prefer to drop a bundle over swapping, where as F1 would only change legend. There’s no issue with setting a priority to dropping a bundle over swapping a weapon, so I don’t see why this would create any unusual problems.

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Posted by: Wolfey.3407

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Since Revenant doesn’t swap weapons and can only have 2 legends, instead of having to change my keybinds can there be an option to toggle the Weapon Swap keybind to swap legends?

Would save some time when swapping between professions <3

I’m not certain on how things are going to be done, but i’d imagine that it would be similar to Elementalist or Engineer.

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Posted by: Sorel.4870

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Since Revenant doesn’t swap weapons and can only have 2 legends, instead of having to change my keybinds can there be an option to toggle the Weapon Swap keybind to swap legends?

Would save some time when swapping between professions <3

I’m not certain on how things are going to be done, but i’d imagine that it would be similar to Elementalist or Engineer.

Well engineer has two distinct ways to drop a kit: pressing the kit key or pressing “drop bundle”. The thing is, for engineer it makes more sense, since you’re really dropping a bundle, in the case of a kit. Swapping legends does not change your weapon skills, hence it can’t be considered a bundle, and shall not be bounded to the “weapon swap” key. QED.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Since Revenant doesn’t swap weapons and can only have 2 legends, instead of having to change my keybinds can there be an option to toggle the Weapon Swap keybind to swap legends?

Would save some time when swapping between professions <3

I’m not certain on how things are going to be done, but i’d imagine that it would be similar to Elementalist or Engineer.

Well engineer has two distinct ways to drop a kit: pressing the kit key or pressing “drop bundle”. The thing is, for engineer it makes more sense, since you’re really dropping a bundle, in the case of a kit. Swapping legends does not change your weapon skills, hence it can’t be considered a bundle, and shall not be bounded to the “weapon swap” key. QED.

Or, like I said, and what makes more sense overall, is have both swap legend and weapon swap prefer bundle dropping over legend swapping, much like current classes that will drop a bundle before changing their weapons.

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Posted by: Sorel.4870

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Or, like I said, and what makes more sense overall, is have both swap legend and weapon swap prefer bundle dropping over legend swapping, much like current classes that will drop a bundle before changing their weapons.

And I think I understood you, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong: you would like to have the “swap weapon/drop bundle” button at the bottom left of the UI AND the bound key changing your current legend, right? The player wielding a bundle would drop it by pressing this button/key, then could use it again to change his current legend, still right?

The question is: would it make sense in a gameplay point of view? You see, currently, this key is linked to changing your weapon skills. Either to swap weapons, or to drop a bundle/kit. In both cases, you’re changing the object you’re wielding. I therefore think it would make no sense to change your legend with this button/key. You’re still wielding the same object, it would not be coherent with the rest of the game.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Or, like I said, and what makes more sense overall, is have both swap legend and weapon swap prefer bundle dropping over legend swapping, much like current classes that will drop a bundle before changing their weapons.

And I think I understood you, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong: you would like to have the “swap weapon/drop bundle” button at the bottom left of the UI AND the bound key changing your current legend, right? The player wielding a bundle would drop it by pressing this button/key, then could use it again to change his current legend, still right?

The question is: would it make sense in a gameplay point of view? You see, currently, this key is linked to changing your weapon skills. Either to swap weapons, or to drop a bundle/kit. In both cases, you’re changing the object you’re wielding. I therefore think it would make no sense to change your legend with this button/key. You’re still wielding the same object, it would not be coherent with the rest of the game.

It’d make sense to me. For many I’d assume, changing your legend, though different physical buttons, will be the same principle as changing a weapon, since it’s between two and not an unknown number (kits) or 4 (attunements) it could very well use both f1 and weapon swap. Gameplay wise, it makes total sense and gives more freedom to how you wish to play. I personally would rather continue to “swap” using my normal button. And in the very rare occurrence that I want to change but not drop a bundle, I just press f1, any other time it’d act just like any other weapon swap. Drop a bundle first, then change weapons.

The thing is, without a bundle, that button doesn’t do anything anyways, so there’s no sense not to just let us use either, especially when the rule with bundles is so simple, just to have the weapon swap drop the bundle first just like it does with any other class.

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Posted by: silvermember.8941

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What makes the new class any special? It will work exactly like it does for the elementalist does.

/thread

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Posted by: Sorel.4870

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What makes the new class any special? It will work exactly like it does for the elementalist does.

/thread

That’s an interesting question, but I’d suggest you begin a new thread with it under the HoT sub forum if you want an answer.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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What makes the new class any special? It will work exactly like it does for the elementalist does.

/thread

I explained the difference. Legend swapping is only between 2, no decision making needed. That said, it would just be convenient (see QOL) to have it function on both the F1 and weapon swap buttons.

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