Guild Wars 2

This is the most cancerous thing I have ever seen. And with all the good stuff Anet managed in the last years I can say it is a thing.

https://www.twitch.tv/vinisas/v/98828141

Can someone give me the build of the thieve ?
I ask everyone to run this as long as Anet does not stop this spammy bullkitten

Thanks in advance

So you take Inspiration 2-1-1/Valor 1-3-2/Invocation 1-3-1. You run Shamans Amulet with SB Hydromancy Sigil and Sigil of Water and Dagger Warhorn with Siil of Accuracy and Sigil of Fire, your main damage will be from spamming Soul Spiral, and dodging accordingly when out of Initiative!

What are you talking about man ? The build in the video is real

Just a bad bunker thief build that’s apparently useful in soloQ against a team with poor rotations. And he’s fighting a bunker Guardian.

Still trying to find what you think is impressive here.

horrible build -_-

It is indeed the most horrible build I have ever seen..can someone react constructively and answer to the question ? What is the build ?

It is probably some variant of the old troll perma evasion build from 2013.

My guess is that the build is something close to this one:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAWWn8lC9OhFmCGOBkmiFqiqLCCgDYO73+y37C+gBA-TJxHABiv/QAXCAAeCAyXGAA

Well thanks a lot azyume

I haven’t looked at the video and I won’t because it’s probably just another evade spam condi thief. It’s by far the cheapest build in the game, but it’s far from the best. It’s OP, but whatever counters it does have are extremely powerful against it. They have poor mobility, their dodge conditions are projectiles, though reflections don’t work because they’re still evading at the same time, so any projectile protecting skills will help. They are easily blocked and dodged, and a well timed interrupt or burst can make them run because they’re squishy against power damage. If you’re fighting alone and you can manage to get a well timed condi bomb against them, stop attacking and they’ll have nothing to evade to remove the condis. The build only has a few counters but those counters are abundant and powerful, which is why you’ll never see a top tier team running it without a real good reason, a reason which probably doesn’t exist.

Zintrothen.1056:

I haven’t looked at the video and I won’t because it’s probably just another evade spam condi thief. It’s by far the cheapest build in the game, but it’s far from the best. It’s OP, but whatever counters it does have are extremely powerful against it. They have poor mobility, their dodge conditions are projectiles, though reflections don’t work because they’re still evading at the same time, so any projectile protecting skills will help. They are easily blocked and dodged, and a well timed interrupt or burst can make them run because they’re squishy against power damage. If you’re fighting alone and you can manage to get a well timed condi bomb against them, stop attacking and they’ll have nothing to evade to remove the condis. The build only has a few counters but those counters are abundant and powerful, which is why you’ll never see a top tier team running it without a real good reason, a reason which probably doesn’t exist.

lol its worst than condi evade thief, its a evade thief w/o condi -_-

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Zintrothen.1056:

I haven’t looked at the video and I won’t because it’s probably just another evade spam condi thief. It’s by far the cheapest build in the game, but it’s far from the best. It’s OP, but whatever counters it does have are extremely powerful against it. They have poor mobility, their dodge conditions are projectiles, though reflections don’t work because they’re still evading at the same time, so any projectile protecting skills will help. They are easily blocked and dodged, and a well timed interrupt or burst can make them run because they’re squishy against power damage. If you’re fighting alone and you can manage to get a well timed condi bomb against them, stop attacking and they’ll have nothing to evade to remove the condis. The build only has a few counters but those counters are abundant and powerful, which is why you’ll never see a top tier team running it without a real good reason, a reason which probably doesn’t exist.

lol its worst than condi evade thief, its a evade thief w/o condi -_-

And there’s no counter to a pure evade thief. The build was made to stop opponents from capturing points, but the build can’t be used to fight at all. This is why GW2 PvP is garbage.

The only Impressive things in this video are how bad that guardian is and… there’s still someone in sPvP that use “Receive the Light!” healing skill? Expecially in a non-shout build…

Anyway yes, that’s a super troll build. Basicly it’s the thief bunker build. You don’t inflict damage but you can stay all the day on the point in mid and make the enemy team unable to take it. Super troll build.

Assuming anet thinks this is a problem, how do u guys think they will fix it

You might be able to counter a dodge spamming thf with wards.

Kuya.6495:

You might be able to counter a dodge spamming thf with wards.

the thief is using staff

Ragion.2831:

Kuya.6495:

You might be able to counter a dodge spamming thf with wards.

the thief is using staff

And? Movement skills are interrupted by wards.

Kuya.6495:

Ragion.2831:

Kuya.6495:

You might be able to counter a dodge spamming thf with wards.

the thief is using staff

And? Movement skills are interrupted by wards.

but not inside it. Im assuming you are talking about the hammer ward because the staff ward is worthless.. Thief can just use bandits defense, maybe get in a knockdown, probably a steal, spam vault, shadowstep (which every thief uses at no cost to evades).

Only thing that can hold the thief is dragons maw and even then its not guaranteed because of bandits defense and shadowstep which the thief probably is using.

Ragion.2831:

Kuya.6495:

Ragion.2831:

Kuya.6495:

You might be able to counter a dodge spamming thf with wards.

the thief is using staff

And? Movement skills are interrupted by wards.

but not inside it. Im assuming you are talking about the hammer ward because the staff ward is worthless.. Thief can just use bandits defense, maybe get in a knockdown, probably a steal, spam vault, shadowstep (which every thief uses at no cost to evades).

Only thing that can hold the thief is dragons maw and even then its not guaranteed because of bandits defense and shadowstep which the thief probably is using.

Staff teef shouldn’t be spamming vault in the first place. Vault is too telegraphed and most hits will be evaded by anyone who knows how to dodge. Of course, in longer fights vault will eventually hit the opposing player but that initiative is better spent using staff 3 to cripple and apply more consistent pressure. They should be dodge 3ing, dodge jump 3, vaulting to close to gap, disengage, or cleave downed, engaging at 600 range with staff 4 (watch for the blind, autoattack until the blind wears off), and using 2+steal or dodge+steal. In between these evades, staff teef should be auto attacking as much as possible. Bandit’s defense will obviously not save a teef stuck in dragon’s maw since Test of Faith, Longbow 3 traited, f1, or even a purification on top of the teef will wreck a teef’s day.

The aftercast on dodge can be hidden by combining it with bandit’s defense, blinding powder, staff 3, jump staff 3, and vault but the aftercast on staff 3 and 5 can’t be hidden. A halfway decent pvper will know this and constantly land hits on a staff teef by watching 3, jump 3, and 5 or by simply counting his dodges and predicting channeled vigor.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

Zintrothen.1056:

I haven’t looked at the video and I won’t because it’s probably just another evade spam condi thief. It’s by far the cheapest build in the game, but it’s far from the best. It’s OP, but whatever counters it does have are extremely powerful against it. They have poor mobility, their dodge conditions are projectiles, though reflections don’t work because they’re still evading at the same time, so any projectile protecting skills will help. They are easily blocked and dodged, and a well timed interrupt or burst can make them run because they’re squishy against power damage. If you’re fighting alone and you can manage to get a well timed condi bomb against them, stop attacking and they’ll have nothing to evade to remove the condis. The build only has a few counters but those counters are abundant and powerful, which is why you’ll never see a top tier team running it without a real good reason, a reason which probably doesn’t exist.

lol its worst than condi evade thief, its a evade thief w/o condi -_-

Lolz…

Ragion.2831:

Kuya.6495:

Ragion.2831:

Kuya.6495:

You might be able to counter a dodge spamming thf with wards.

the thief is using staff

And? Movement skills are interrupted by wards.

but not inside it. Im assuming you are talking about the hammer ward because the staff ward is worthless.. Thief can just use bandits defense, maybe get in a knockdown, probably a steal, spam vault, shadowstep (which every thief uses at no cost to evades).

Only thing that can hold the thief is dragons maw and even then its not guaranteed because of bandits defense and shadowstep which the thief probably is using.

Am I missing something but I think only shadowstep will help the thief escape any circular ward? The only other way through a ward is stability. You can’t evade through a ward, and neither can you block. They will both be interrupted.

Yannir.4132:

Ragion.2831:

Kuya.6495:

Ragion.2831:

Kuya.6495:

You might be able to counter a dodge spamming thf with wards.

the thief is using staff

And? Movement skills are interrupted by wards.

but not inside it. Im assuming you are talking about the hammer ward because the staff ward is worthless.. Thief can just use bandits defense, maybe get in a knockdown, probably a steal, spam vault, shadowstep (which every thief uses at no cost to evades).

Only thing that can hold the thief is dragons maw and even then its not guaranteed because of bandits defense and shadowstep which the thief probably is using.

Am I missing something but I think only shadowstep will help the thief escape any circular ward? The only other way through a ward is stability. You can’t evade through a ward, and neither can you block. They will both be interrupted.

You’re right. The best thing Bandit’s defense will do for a teef stuck in maw or hammer 5 is mitigate damage.