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Posted by: XII.9401

XII.9401

Can we please fix the ridiculous repetitive stealthing on thieves? How is this allowed in the game? We can’t fight a class you we can’t see 50% of the time.

Why do thieves have so many get out of jail cards? If you engage in a fight you should not be allowed to get out of it so easily.

Can we please introduce a cool down on it, already? If you choose to engage in a fight you should pay for the consequences and not be able to bail out and come back later as you please.

The fix is really easy. Introduce a cooldown on certain abilities like the rest of the classes or increase the initiate to prevent restealthing more than once in a fight in such a short time.

(edited by XII.9401)

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Posted by: nerva.7940

nerva.7940

exactly. playing a thief is GW2’s version of godmode. with a little bit of skill, you have the best mobility, best evasion, and most burst out of all the specs in the game. not to mention stealth stomping, stealth rezzing, and quickness abuse.

and we all laughed at how horribly Blizzard managed rogues. lol, this is way, way worse. bunch of amateurs.

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Posted by: Zosk.5609

Zosk.5609

It’s not just thieves, it’s every class to some degree.

Everybody must have tons of pets, teleports, escapes, CC and CC breakers…. it’s really totally a twitch action-reaction and run around game right now.

People who think it could be an e-sport as it is designed are kinda adorable. Sure, games like Starcraft are very similar in theory (basically twitch games where you memorize certain strategies and rotations?) but this is just not the MMO way and there’s a serious schizophrenic game design here.

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

Agreed with everyone good posts. And yes this does go for so many other classes and things. Why do they force us to fight the computer? Classes can reapply condition faster then most can cure them. Why can a class choose to stand on the outskirts of a fight and press 1 or 2 buttons and kill people in battle? Thief’s evading indefinitely at ruins, I the balance in this game is in the gutter. Mesmer is just as bad as thief they are both crutches for bad players

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Posted by: xbutcherx.3861

xbutcherx.3861

Gotta love the cry babies about stealth. Maybe if you play a thief for a little you can probably counter the thief stealth mode. And so you know stealth has been nerfed already. And for those who said thieves press 2 2 2 2, well we only have 5 skills and since we are melee we need to find a way to get to the target and heartseeker is the best to get close to the target. Besides auto attack the other 3 skill we use are:
DEATH BLOSSOM : condition build
DANCING DAGGER: aoe range attack lately nerfed 50% damage
CnD: we also use a lot and you always crying for it too and also recently nerfed 33% damage reduce.
Sooo.. what other skill you complainers want us to use?

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

Gotta love the cry babies about stealth. Maybe if you play a thief for a little you can probably counter the thief stealth mode. And so you know stealth has been nerfed already. And for those who said thieves press 2 2 2 2, well we only have 5 skills and since we are melee we need to find a way to get to the target and heartseeker is the best to get close to the target. Besides auto attack the other 3 skill we use are:
DEATH BLOSSOM : condition build
DANCING DAGGER: aoe range attack lately nerfed 50% damage
CnD: we also use a lot and you always crying for it too and also recently nerfed 33% damage reduce.
Sooo.. what other skill you complainers want us to use?

They introduced the crutch for players like you. I never complained about any of the above, yea theives got nerfed, and they will continue to get nerfed. If you can’t see the balance issues in this game then your just leaning a little too hard on that crutch of yours.

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Posted by: Stin.9781

Stin.9781

Thief can stealth pretty often too, but he also has weakness called innitiative. Its a double edged blade, we cannot use 2 weapeon sets effectivly, unlike other classes. We use our innitiative and are left defencless, as we cannot cast any skill at all, even if we swap weapons. Stealth is implemented cuz of that, if diffrent weapeons had diffrent innitiative pools you could talk about less stealth.

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

Thief can stealth pretty often too, but he also has weakness called innitiative. Its a double edged blade, we cannot use 2 weapeon sets effectivly, unlike other classes. We use our innitiative and are left defencless, as we cannot cast any skill at all, even if we swap weapons. Stealth is implemented cuz of that, if diffrent weapeons had diffrent innitiative pools you could talk about less stealth.

None of which is hard at all

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Posted by: xbutcherx.3861

xbutcherx.3861

Let me guess you got killed by a thief one too many times? I’m pvp lvl 35 with 1200+ games played. I learned every class and its weaknesses, if you want to talk about balance lets talk about it.
How a necro need to be kill 4 times before goes down.
How to spend 5 min killing a bunker guardian.
How to kill a elementalist before they can knock you down 3 times in a row before killing you.
How to kill a mesmer with one to many clones.
How to avoid 100b warrior
How to avoid all ranger traps and pets.
How to kill a enginer with all types of toys around it.
Every class has it weaknesses just need to learn to play in your favor.

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Posted by: Pyrial.2917

Pyrial.2917

Let me guess you got killed by a thief one too many times? I’m pvp lvl 35 with 1200+ games played. I learned every class and its weaknesses, if you want to talk about balance lets talk about it.
How a necro need to be kill 4 times before goes down.
How to spend 5 min killing a bunker guardian.
How to kill a elementalist before they can knock you down 3 times in a row before killing you.
How to kill a mesmer with one to many clones.
How to avoid 100b warrior
How to avoid all ranger traps and pets.
How to kill a enginer with all types of toys around it.
Every class has it weaknesses just need to learn to play in your favor.

How does an ele knock you down 3 times in a row?

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Posted by: xbutcherx.3861

xbutcherx.3861

Good question and I don’t know how but they can. I don’t know what build they used but I have seen them do that.

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Posted by: xbutcherx.3861

xbutcherx.3861

And for those who don’t know our stealth skils have cd, and CnD uses initiative and need to be in melee range to get it to work, some thieves use other teleport skill when all stealth skills are on cd

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Posted by: Stin.9781

Stin.9781

Well thief can actualy use spec which allows to stealth around 40% of all time. But that, does not go with burst specs, does not allow extreme damage, as we use all slots for stealth/stunbreak.

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Posted by: xbutcherx.3861

xbutcherx.3861

Thieves/rogues/assassins are a class of surprise.. why is that hard to understand? We get kill in 1-3 shots with glass cannon build. So what? You want us not to have any defense skill? Stealth is our only defense.

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Posted by: Pyrial.2917

Pyrial.2917

Thieves/rogues/assassins are a class of surprise.. why is that hard to understand? We get kill in 1-3 shots with glass cannon build. So what? You want us not to have any defense skill? Stealth is our only defense.

Ok, give some defensive abilities in the utility slots (expanding choice) and limit the constant stealthing. That’s an easy fix.

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Posted by: Moderator.3964

Moderator.3964

Hello,
There is already a thread about the thief here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/The-thief-and-its-gameplay-Your-feedback/page/11#post883691

Therefore this thread is now locked.
Please refer to this thread for any feedback about the thief in general, so we can address your concerns & feedback to our teams.
Thank you.