Guild Wars 2

How exactly is gain/loss calculated? Is it average of each team compared? Or invidvidual rating vs average of opponent?

Lets use the following examples with made up hidden rating values.

Team A:

1 1500 rating
2 1700 rating
3 1800 rating
4 1800 rating
5 2500 rating

Team B:

1 1000 rating
2 800 rating
3 2500 rating
4 2500 rating
5 2500 rating.

Both teams are pugs, but team B has a 3-man elite mini group. Average rating of team A is 1860, average of Team B is also 1860. So does everyone on both teams lose or gain the same amount of rating? or say if Team B loses, will players 3, 4 and 5 drop more points than players 1 and 2 assuming individual rating compared to average?

Its a mystery. It may not even be averaged. The ratings could be summed, they may use the median, the range, or they could all be calculated independently.

We can still make deductions based on info we have seen and experienced. For example, Lowell posted that his group of players only played together when leaderboards were released and one of their members actually passed another player on the leaderboard, which seems silly unless you assume that a player with lesser rating (because both players were not of the same rating) gains more rating than someone of higher rating.

Of course it’s just speculation, but it’s better than nothing.

My personal opinion, not backed up by anything but experience, is that its a very simplistic system that needs a lot of work. They should explain it roughly to us at the very least. The fact that they have not leads me to be suspicious about it. Maybe someone can ask them this question directly at the next state of the game. How does your MMR work.

Sprawl.3891:

How exactly is gain/loss calculated? Is it average of each team compared? Or invidvidual rating vs average of opponent?

Lets use the following examples with made up hidden rating values.

Team A:

1 1500 rating
2 1700 rating
3 1800 rating
4 1800 rating
5 2500 rating

Team B:

1 1000 rating
2 800 rating
3 2500 rating
4 2500 rating
5 2500 rating.

Both teams are pugs, but team B has a 3-man elite mini group. Average rating of team A is 1860, average of Team B is also 1860. So does everyone on both teams lose or gain the same amount of rating? or say if Team B loses, will players 3, 4 and 5 drop more points than players 1 and 2 assuming individual rating compared to average?

The do not gain the same. The amount gained for each player is largely based off the player volitility score, if the volititility is high they can gain and lose more per game. Since the player rating and volitility are detached from the teams then they have to have separate gains entirely. This means that even if the entire team had to exact same score but different volitility scores, none of them would gain/lose the same amount.

The leaderbord ratings should take into account how high a team wins or loses… does not WvW have some sort of system that does it like this? (Even if the server wins if it wins only small it might not move up to the next tier/rank).

If a team only loses by a small amount it should not lose too much rating.