Guild Wars 2

I, “avid PvP player who cares about the game”, would rather wait in queue longer for a more fair match rather than a quick unbalanced match.

I feel like the queue system is favoring queue time rather than the balance of the match.

I think there’s a mixed feeling about this. I get long queues sometimes and the matches are still awful.

With the amount of players actively playing, I don’t think there is a strong correlation between queue time and goodness (for lack of better word) of match balance.

Wilco.1458:

I think there’s a mixed feeling about this. I get long queues sometimes and the matches are still awful.

With the amount of players actively playing, I don’t think there is a strong correlation between queue time and goodness (for lack of better word) of match balance.

There isn’t, but there should be a strong emphasis on trying to get the fairest matches no matter what, in my opinion. Even if that means longer queue times.

But yeah, right now we still get long queues that lead to bad matches too.

for my experienced, i found out that.

short queue = mostly balanced matches
long queue = mostly unbalanced matches, we get steam rolled by the other team very often.

that was ranked arena.

but these recent few days i have been doing unranked arena, the queues are not very long, say 1 – 2 minutes and the matches are some what balanced.

even if we lose, its like 500 – 400 or 500 – 350 etc.

i would say match making is working for me, most of the time.
maybe because i play very casually, only 2 – 3 games per day.

To be honest it would make sense that the shortest queues = most balanced matches. Assuming it works like in DotA, it starts with a small search and gradually grows. So the first minute or so will search for people within X mmr, then the next minute within 2X mmr and so on. So if you have to wait long, theoretically there will have the largest mmr differential.

I get 10 minute queues and the matches are still unbalanced Q_Q

My games generally are shorter than my queue times (10-15minutes with the rare 2-5 minute pop) more so when solo than with a group.

Wilco.1458:

To be honest it would make sense that the shortest queues = most balanced matches. Assuming it works like in DotA, it starts with a small search and gradually grows. So the first minute or so will search for people within X mmr, then the next minute within 2X mmr and so on. So if you have to wait long, theoretically there will have the largest mmr differential.

+1

I think the point he’s making is that the time it takes to search for a good match should be lengthened.

So, to take the DotA example, if it searchs for 30 seconds for MMRs within 50 of yours, then it should be increased to, say 60 seconds of that tier of search.

That way the chance of finding a closer match increases two fold.

almost all matches the past 2-3 days off have been within 150 points besides maybe 1-2 matches.
i am mostly playing solo queue unranked. i have only ran into 1 group of 4, a couple of threesomes, and a handful of twosomes, but mostly all my matches have been all-solo (this is since dec 16th).
am i just lucky or is my MMR/LB position just in a cherry spot? or is this a problem between ranked and unranked?

the decaying rate for Gw2 match making (the rate at which it looks for even matches and then fair matches and then close and then who cares i need a match up) may be a little bit too fast i agree..

but remember that Gw2 PvP has a Very very small selection of players on and in que at any given time to be selected from.

This is the largest problem for any match making system. make it as robust as you want but when you’ve only got 20 people in the pool it’s still going to end up kittenty on your end.

Before you grind to kitten the pairing systems i think you need to improve and Grow the Player Base to really see if it works or not. As it stands i think it probably works very well. We just can’t tell..