Guild Wars 2

Now that we cannot play ranked whenever we want, can we please stop forcing this utter trash of a map on the community?

that map is fine besides im bored as kitten playing forest of niflhel wars 2 and guilds of legacy of foefire 2, seriously can people kittening vote for something different sometimes

I really like being able to play skyhammer and spirit watch now. During season 1 8 out of 10 games were on forest or foefire. Those are the two worst maps imo, mainly because I had to play them CONSTANTLY. Skyhammer is my favourite map at the moment, I forgot how good it feels to get an awesome knock back off the edge to get a kill. Spirit watch is great too because it just adds to the variety that was seriously lacking in season one for me.

spirit watch is my favorite map. Take graveyard and make it go neutral a while after capturing it so that you have to keep on killing the enemy rather than just take it once and sit on it, and you have spirit watch

skyhammer is good too. makes you have to pay more attention. There almost never any reason you should ever fall to your death

Long time till I didn’t see one of those! Skyhammer is a lot of fun if you actually dodge the big laser. I wish they would add gliders. With gliders, I would want it in ranked even. But Anet doesn’t think gliders are competitive so I’ll just stay sad.

Crat, as much as I love Niflhel and Foefire, it gets a bit boring when you ONLY play those maps in ranked. Play the map, try to have fun!

I’m fully in favor of changing Unranked while there’s no season to only include Khylo, Forest, Temple, Foefire.

Fun or not the other maps are complete trash for playing competitively.

andyhens.4172:

I’m fully in favor of changing Unranked while there’s no season to only include Khylo, Forest, Temple, Foefire.

Fun or not the other maps are complete trash for playing competitively.

Exactly. Skyhammer is a map for trolling people off the ledges, not for competitive play. And both skyhammer and spirit watch offer even more advantage for partial/full premade teams than the normal conquest maps.

Now when the leagues are gone, I almost stopped playing spvp. I always solo queue.

We need more maps not getting rid of those we do have. Courtyard and Capricorn should be brought back.

Unranked isn’t the competitive queue. Losing because of what you perceive as a bad map doesn’t negatively effect your league status.

So basically what you’re asking for is to remove maps other people consider fun because you don’t feel like adapting your strategy.

Lexander.4579:

besides im bored as kitten playing forest of niflhel wars 2 and guilds of legacy of foefire 2, seriously can people kittening vote for something different sometimes

The PvP tab tells me my favourite map is LotF, even tho I never voted for it, ever.

SoPP.7034:

Lexander.4579:

besides im bored as kitten playing forest of niflhel wars 2 and guilds of legacy of foefire 2, seriously can people kittening vote for something different sometimes

The PvP tab tells me my favourite map is LotF, even tho I never voted for it, ever.

ditto. kitten that map

For anyone who has played 100+ games, there are only two possible “favorite” maps. Foefire or Champion’s Dusk

No. It’s Unranked, there should be more maps there. Clearly someone voted for it or it wouldn’t get chosen, ergo, someone else likes it. Your opinion is not greater then theirs.

YES remove this abomination,
or atleast make it so when 9 people vote for a decent map and one troll votes for suckhammer, suckhammer doesn’t get picked.

the map selection should choose the map with the majority vote.
finally we’d never have to AFK suckhammer again.

Incoming engineers comments about how awesome sky hammer is

Liewec.2896:

or atleast make it so when 9 people vote for a decent map and one troll votes for suckhammer, suckhammer doesn’t get picked.

There is no objective appreciation of value. You can’t objectively say that Skyhammer is worse, because we’re just playing a game here. With the weighted roll, Skyhammer’s chances of being played is exactly proportional to its value, since value is only the measure of the number of players wanting to play it compared to those who don’t. Maybe you think your opinion is more valuable somehow? Well it’s not, sorry. Get over yourself.

@Sorel: he clearly stated “the map selection should choose the map with the majority vote.” He never implied that his opinion was more valuable than another’s, but that the majority opinion should always take precedent over the minority.

Indure.5410:

@Sorel: he clearly stated “the map selection should choose the map with the majority vote.” He never implied that his opinion was more valuable than another’s, but that the majority opinion should always take precedent over the minority.

But then it’s not the exact measure of the popularity of the map, is it?

Solstace.2514:

Incoming engineers comments about how awesome sky hammer is

This thread is so old school, I swear! How often do you see engineers using rifle, or the turret knockback trait nowadays? This engineer joke was invented before the turret KB nerf, back in 2014 if I’m not mistaken.

Deniara Devious.3948:

andyhens.4172:

I’m fully in favor of changing Unranked while there’s no season to only include Khylo, Forest, Temple, Foefire.

Fun or not the other maps are complete trash for playing competitively.

Exactly. Skyhammer is a map for trolling people off the ledges, not for competitive play. And both skyhammer and spirit watch offer even more advantage for partial/full premade teams than the normal conquest maps.

Now when the leagues are gone, I almost stopped playing spvp. I always solo queue.

Whatevs

When i knock someone off the ledge w/ Rev’s Downed skill #2 I’m like “Hell Yeah, this map is awesome!”

So just a question. WHY does everyone hate skyhammer? What is so non-competitive about it? What’s so hard about dodging as you go around the corner to point A or C when you know someone is contesting the point? Or stability?

Sorel.4870:

Liewec.2896:

or atleast make it so when 9 people vote for a decent map and one troll votes for suckhammer, suckhammer doesn’t get picked.

There is no objective appreciation of value. You can’t objectively say that Skyhammer is worse, because we’re just playing a game here. With the weighted roll, Skyhammer’s chances of being played is exactly proportional to its value, since value is only the measure of the number of players wanting to play it compared to those who don’t. Maybe you think your opinion is more valuable somehow? Well it’s not, sorry. Get over yourself.

you must be knew if you think i’m alone, or even in the minority when it comes down to opinion/viceral hatred of this abomination.
because for a year and a half thousands of us were voicing our hatred for suckhammer, but everyone gave up when it became clear that Anet didn’t care what we thought.
The first skyhammer thread

Indure.5410:

he clearly stated “the map selection should choose the map with the majority vote.” He never implied that his opinion was more valuable than another’s, but that the majority opinion should always take precedent over the minority.

The problem with that thinking is that it means the minority will NEVER get to play the maps they enjoy. Ever.

In fact the only maps that will ever be played are Foefire with the occasional Niflhel. We might also get a Kyhlo once in a blue moon.

Three maps are not enough. If this ever went live I’d flat out quit SPVP. I already hate how many times I’m forced to play Foefire, but I deal with it because this is a FAIR system for map selection. The majority get what they want the majority of the time while the minority still get to play what they want the minority of the time.

i am… just playing different game while i wait for ranked to be available again :>

Yes! And THEN let’s replace every map with Foe….Fiiiiireeee! WooHoo! It will be like being stuck in purgatory forever!

I hate sky hammer and stronghold. May the communities voice be heard.

Skyhammer is “bad for competition?”

Wow, in all the other game’s I’ve played the correct response to someone complaining about being punted off an edge was to tell them to stop putting their backs to a cliff when fighting someone with a knockback.

Positioning is hard.

Crinn.7864:

Skyhammer is “bad for competition?”

Wow, in all the other game’s I’ve played the correct response to someone complaining about being punted off an edge was to tell them to stop putting their backs to a cliff when fighting someone with a knockback.

Positioning is hard.

EXACTLY!

I like skyhammer. It lets me see who is actually good and who is just getting carried by overpowered builds.

Liewec.2896:

you must be knew if you think i’m alone, or even in the minority when it comes down to opinion/viceral hatred of this abomination.
because for a year and a half thousands of us were voicing our hatred for suckhammer, but everyone gave up when it became clear that Anet didn’t care what we thought.
The first skyhammer thread

I’m well-aware of the history of this map. And just to get that out of the way, as Orwell has written “sanity is not statistical”: intelligence is an intensive variable, it doesn’t stack up with numbers.

But that’s besides the point. It doesn’t matter if you belong to the majority or not. When the die rolls, your choice counts for one tenth. One player, one voice. Do you think you that your opinion is worth more than the one of the other players in your game? Or can you accept the fact that, once in a while, the minority will gets what it wants, in the exact proportion of its size?

Oh, and “hatred” is a big word to throw at a video game map, don’t you think?