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Posted by: Dril.2495

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Im sure im not the only one thats been noticing more and more elementalists in ranked. Im not one to call kitten OP or cry about it but this is such a joke. These elementalists are even stronger than s1 ele’s. They can heal from 10 to 100 in a few seconds, they give multiple sources of reflect, they have invul, and to top it off their damage really isn’t all too bad either.

Engi’s & reaper might be strong too but imo Elementalists completely blow these classes out of the water.

So far since ranked started (and im sapphire atm) every single game where the enemy had 2 elementalists and we had 0 was a complete stomp.
If they had only 1 elementalist then the only way i saw us winning was by somehow getting the elementalist to sit on the point they alrdy have, leave him alone ,and go for the other point to get a 2cap that way… No1 is killable and its seriously some of the most boring games i’ve ever played. Im fine with every single class but not elementalists.

Am i crazy here or what are your thoughts?

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Posted by: Jelzouki.4128

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They’re fine.

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Posted by: DarkSoul.3792

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In my experience of pvp (also in sapphire), I have never thought as eles as op in this patch, I think they’re fine as well

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Posted by: warherox.7943

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The healing is fine, focus however is not.

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Posted by: Mini Crinny.6190

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They can do great healing, but the difference with ele this season and last is that they dont really have decent damage

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

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They can do great healing, but the difference with ele this season and last is that they dont really have decent damage

^^ this

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Posted by: Aereniel.7356

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The D/F Cleric’s tempest is a true team support that accomplishes very little on its own. Sure, in a pinch it can stalemate side nodes for a bit, but it will never ever kill any decent player 1v1. Its mobility is mediocre, and the build exists for the sole purpose of making the better professions (revenants, scrappers) shine and allow them to do their job.

By contrast, the old D/D Cele might stacking build could do everything well all by itself. It could teamfight, support, roam and contest side nodes with extreme proficiency. The difference between the two iterations is night and day.

If you’re having trouble, pressure the ele enough to force obsidian flesh and then cc+burst. With Cleric’s they have 13k health, and if they run Mender’s they have next to zero toughness. They fold under focus fire in either case.

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Posted by: kirima san.3760

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You are not wrong, we can heal very well, but the only reason this type of build is played is because its pretty much the only thing we can do effectively.

If we go DD offensive we get more glassy and die in close range team fights (dh traps, necros, revs) and cant beat anyone in 1v1.

If we go S/F fresh air we do a lot better damage but not enough to win properly good players in 1v1, but have ok burst. This type of builds lacks healing and we must use earth ivurn.

Staff and in particular warhorn are way too clunky and slow for us to use. Warhorn is good for nothing in pvp.

Try playing ele if you don’t believe me, and notice how build websites all pretty much only show the dagger focus team healer build as a good option. There is a good discussion in the ele forum about this right now.

Tldr; after all the nerfs old OP dd cele ele got, and all the sustain new specs have, only thing ele can so is heal.

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Posted by: Silverthorn.8576

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A good cleric/mender ele can completely carrys team fight for his team and so the game making their mates really hard to kill.
It becomes funny if they have also a druid with S&R…

The ele is the only one fulfilling this role and he is clearly too powerfull in it, the problem it is the only role left to him. #balance?
Like sire Revenant good dmg/high mobility/good sustain => 2 Rev in each team everytime.

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Posted by: lighter.2708

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tbh, a decent cleric ele in a team will beat the one without an ele imo, given same skill level and all