Guild Wars 2

It has no role, it has little to no damage now without sacrificing everything and dieing easier then a ranger’s pet. It has no sustain and it is pretty much a giant punching bag.

Every attack feels slow and clunky like it was made for PvE, it simply has no place in the current meta and feels completely worthless.

The healing skills never got improved, Healing Signets passive and other healing spells output should honestly be tripled to much up for lack of survivability. We have no protection, honestly I don’t care if we are like any other classes, at least we won’t be worthless.

Until that time comes – I will continue to post on the forums and log in to do the daily, but the game is no longer fun for me as a warrior.

ANET you have unleashed the beast of the warrior forum onto spvp!!!

Why is it so difficult to understand warrior is probably the only class really able to shut down the “so feared” ( pun intended) OP necros ?

Mrbig.8019:

Why is it so difficult to understand warrior is probably the only class really able to shut down the “so feared” ( pun intended) OP necros ?

Becausse OP Necros kill us in 4 or 5 second with conditions + raw dmg :/

JETWING.2759:

Mrbig.8019:

Why is it so difficult to understand warrior is probably the only class really able to shut down the “so feared” ( pun intended) OP necros ?

Becausse OP Necros kill us in 4 or 5 second with conditions + raw dmg :/

pick up stability

stun the necro

do stuff

????

profit

I mean seriously, why people cry so much ?

War is becoming better every patch, still people cry.

War is actually the only viable counter to necros and NO, IF YOU PLAY WELL YOU DON’T DIE IN 4-5 SECS.

Mrbig.8019:

JETWING.2759:

Mrbig.8019:

Why is it so difficult to understand warrior is probably the only class really able to shut down the “so feared” ( pun intended) OP necros ?

Becausse OP Necros kill us in 4 or 5 second with conditions + raw dmg :/

pick up stability

stun the necro

do stuff

????

profit

I mean seriously, why people cry so much ?

War is becoming better every patch, still people cry.

War is actually the only viable counter to necros and NO, IF YOU PLAY WELL YOU DON’T DIE IN 4-5 SECS.

While this is true a smart necro in position is certainly not easily countered by cc.

Anyone who’s played me recently may well of experienced the potential of cc warriors to cleave engineers/necromancers, however if the necro evades/blinds and kites such things are countered easily.

And FYI berserker stance is much more effective if the opposing teams cc is focused around fear.

People have to understand that is not the Warrior who needs a buff, simply other classes need a nerf (less AOEs, less conditions and [most important] more telegraphed skills).

Oni Link.4621:

People have to understand that is not the Warrior who needs a buff, simply other classes need a nerf (less AOEs, less conditions and [most important] more telegraphed skills).

Yes, but I think that train left a long time ago.. Simply put its easier to bring 1 class up to par then to nerf the 7 other classes.

Oni Link.4621:

People have to understand that is not the Warrior who needs a buff, simply other classes need a nerf (less AOEs, less conditions and [most important] more telegraphed skills).

With current rate of balance patchs…we will see other classes balanced to warrior in GW3

Yes, its not that the warrior is OP, its actually good! Its Mesmer, Engineer, Necromancer, Guardian, Ranger, ….

Just buff warrior already!

Mrbig.8019:

JETWING.2759:

Mrbig.8019:

Why is it so difficult to understand warrior is probably the only class really able to shut down the “so feared” ( pun intended) OP necros ?

Becausse OP Necros kill us in 4 or 5 second with conditions + raw dmg :/

pick up stability

stun the necro

do stuff

????

profit

I mean seriously, why people cry so much ?

War is becoming better every patch, still people cry.

War is actually the only viable counter to necros and NO, IF YOU PLAY WELL YOU DON’T DIE IN 4-5 SECS.

And about boons repers, convert, transform, transfer, etc?
Stability just would converted of stolen :/

But you are right. With stability i not die in 4 or 5 seconds, i die in 6 or 7.

Phaeton.9582:

Mrbig.8019:

JETWING.2759:

Mrbig.8019:

Why is it so difficult to understand warrior is probably the only class really able to shut down the “so feared” ( pun intended) OP necros ?

Becausse OP Necros kill us in 4 or 5 second with conditions + raw dmg :/

pick up stability

stun the necro

do stuff

????

profit

I mean seriously, why people cry so much ?

War is becoming better every patch, still people cry.

War is actually the only viable counter to necros and NO, IF YOU PLAY WELL YOU DON’T DIE IN 4-5 SECS.

While this is true a smart necro in position is certainly not easily countered by cc.

Anyone who’s played me recently may well of experienced the potential of cc warriors to cleave engineers/necromancers, however if the necro evades/blinds and kites such things are countered easily.

And FYI berserker stance is much more effective if the opposing teams cc is focused around fear.

Stability is needed if necro’s team is trying to peel for him.

If you play with mace shield is basically impossible to evade/blind all your CCs ( even more since a full discipline skull crack is istant and on a 7 secs CD).

You just need swiftness and stablity, and of course, the ability to dodge the “a lot more” telegraphed necro moves.

I’ve started to run with lyssa runes and as soon as you are crippled/chilled hard, the only thing you have to do is to pop up your elite and stick again on the necro: after the first CC chain he will be with no stunbreakers/life force and a single skull crack will be enough to 100-0 the necro.

You simply need to adapt your playstyle: swift on crit + stability+ balanced stance = dead necro.

JETWING.2759:

Mrbig.8019:

JETWING.2759:

Mrbig.8019:

Why is it so difficult to understand warrior is probably the only class really able to shut down the “so feared” ( pun intended) OP necros ?

Becausse OP Necros kill us in 4 or 5 second with conditions + raw dmg :/

pick up stability

stun the necro

do stuff

????

profit

I mean seriously, why people cry so much ?

War is becoming better every patch, still people cry.

War is actually the only viable counter to necros and NO, IF YOU PLAY WELL YOU DON’T DIE IN 4-5 SECS.

And about boons repers, convert, transform, transfer, etc?
Stability just would converted of stolen :/

But you are right. With stability i not die in 4 or 5 seconds, i die in 6 or 7.

Please tell me how can this happen.

No condi necro ever will run with focus ( the one which rips boons) and corrupt boon is on a 40 secs CD ( if necros still run it, something i doubt since condi necros carry a stunbreaker + epidemic + wall of fear and hybrid ones have wells, which can be dodged easily).

Again, CC chain = dead necro.

And the only class capable of doing so is the war.

I kill necros. Bad necros.
When i face a skillfull necro, he charge me with tons of fear and conditions. Only the bleed damage is superior to 20k. With fear, torment, burn and another things… lol insane, very insane.

CC no not works, i tryed CC, raw dmg and resists. Nothing worked.
The only thing that works are stand far of then and spamm condition with long bow. But how can i take the point if no has space to i stand in safe range?

Like melee, i would have advantage in close range, but in sPvP the thing are inverted :/

Mrbig.8019:

Stability is needed if necro’s team is trying to peel for him.

Not really, unless you mean the team is trying to pressure you off the necro, which will involve cc. But i was referring to a duel necro comp, which would involve fear and conditions, making berserker stance more useful.

Mrbig.8019:

If you play with mace shield is basically impossible to evade/blind all your CCs ( even more since a full discipline skull crack is istant and on a 7 secs CD).

You just need swiftness and stablity, and of course, the ability to dodge the “a lot more” telegraphed necro moves.

If you play a full cc build this is true, however from my experience the first hit on a good necro is still crucial.

Mrbig.8019:

I’ve started to run with lyssa runes and as soon as you are crippled/chilled hard, the only thing you have to do is to pop up your elite and stick again on the necro: after the first CC chain he will be with no stunbreakers/life force and a single skull crack will be enough to 100-0 the necro.

You simply need to adapt your playstyle: swift on crit + stability+ balanced stance = dead necro.

Not sure if you’re trolling me here but I’ll assume you play warrior and respond in full.

Yes lyssa can be an effective cleanse, but you’ll still run the risk of corrupt boon. Although this is no longer the hard counter it once was (as the stability is no longer converted) this will reapply the cripple, and therefore should be saved for cleansing the spike if possible. Lyssa is an effective way of applying pressure to a player early on however, and shouldn’t be held off for too long.

Restorative Strength is a good trait to use for cripples/chills now too, with the absence of berserker’s power from adept strength traits, as well as the new potency of weakness.

As for the idea of swiftness on crit.. warrior’s sprint in the discipline tree is a far better choice if your struggling to stick to a necro, as contrary to popular belief signet cooldowns are not completely mandatory if you’re running lyssa runes. I can’t see why anyone would want to trait further into arms than they have to.

This isn’t necro qq, I just don’t want perspective warriors getting the wrong information.

Warriors are getting shafted hard by everyone.

The best thing the “balance” team could do for us is to hand out some free anal-lube.

Enmity.3428:

Warriors are getting shafted hard by everyone.

The best thing the “balance” team could do for us is to hand out some free anal-lube.

I was going to laugh…. But it’s true, just infuriating.

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Enmity.3428:

Warriors are getting shafted hard by everyone.

The best thing the “balance” team could do for us is to hand out some free anal-lube.

I was going to laugh…. But it’s true, just infuriating.

Lol…

I love this thread now

Warrior is a good, strong class.

The main problem is that people really don’t know how to use it and complain.

Said by a warrior since day 1.

Gibe.8172:

Warrior is a good, strong class.

The main problem is that people really don’t know how to use it and complain.

Said by a warrior since day 1.

Then tell me how pro-warriors like you, evade the cluster of AoE-Damage raining on you while still doing viable dmg in 130 range against evading opponents.
As I never saw you in competitive play, this must be your second account.

Priceless sarcasm. Yeah Empathetic, we just need to L2P that warrior sustain.
Warrior is a good, strong class, the only problem is every other class is above good and strong. Warrior is the only balanced class with drawn out animations and weaknesses honestly.

No ,it’s my main, I spend most of my time only dueling that’s why u don’t know me, i’ll be glad to duel you with any class except Mesmer.

I’ll show you how warrior should be played.

Sounds neato.
Why don’t you like going against mesmers though?

The main reason is the target system, doesn’t matter how focused you are you’ll eventually always waste some skills, and that’s the reason i consider them OP in 1 v 1.

In 2v2-3v3, it’s another story.

Gibe.8172:

The main reason is the target system, doesn’t matter how focused you are you’ll eventually always waste some skills, and that’s the reason i consider them OP in 1 v 1.

In 2v2-3v3, it’s another story.

So you have no problems against BM rangers and S/D thieves?

No i don’t, it’s pretty different… With any other class depends on the skill of the player but still it’s an even match.

Gibe.8172:

No i don’t, it’s pretty different… With any other class depends on the skill of the player but still it’s an even match.

The problem is if you specc your build for 1v1’s you probably end being useless to the team or in general teamfights, where you get melted instantly.

My is not an 1v1 spec .. I think it’s meaningless to use specs that are not useful in teamfights.
But still it’s has awesome dmg (zerker jewel) and good survivability , If i want to counter a specific class it’s enough to change 1 utility.

We are going OT..

Btw, less talk more act! if you want to duel, pm me in game and i’ll just show you what i mean XD

Gibe.8172:

We are going OT..

Btw, less talk more act! if you want to duel, pm me in game and i’ll just show you what i mean XD

I’ll call you mabye in 5 hours. I’ll roll dmg-guard so you have a chance at least.

I’ll be online in about 3-4 hours. I’m interested also.

We are really offtopic but it’s becoming interesting :P Please stream that!

Mesmers are one of the easier fights for a warrior in tpvp…

Guess duelling lobbies have different meta

I don’t know when i’ll be online, but i’ve already pmd u both and added to friend list, we’ll duel in my arena.
Cya soon

Gibe.8172:

I don’t know when i’ll be online, but i’ve already pmd u both and added to friend list, we’ll duel in my arena.
Cya soon

Ohh, in his own mansion. What a playboy

To say the truth , it’s my friend’s one.. But that way sounded cooler :P

I hope we will get a vid of that duels?

Warrior is a good strong class that is balanced, it is just every warrior on the forums and in the game are bad and needs to learn to master adrenaline.

Had some nice duels with Gibe, my thief is perfect counter for his spec so he pretty much didn’t have a chance against that spec. So was necro, hard to play with low lifeforce though and I definitely felt constant pressure. Necro is quite strong atm though and usually I just wore him out. I mostly lost in warr vs warr duels (I played mc+sh/GS and s+sh/lbow), Gibe has an evil stunlock/stability focused build.
Didn’t try mesmer, ele, engy or offensive guard because I’m not so good on them.
GG and fun were had.

Later we did a friendly duoqueue match together which was a pretty faceroll win. Overall nice evening.
Gibe has a fun to play and strong build, but I’m not sure if it earns a spot in a team.
I hope you don’t mind if I post it (from memory, might not be 100% correct):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAS3ejcOxu1QyQMxBA0DsqKrTBlUPmzu4A-TsAg0CnIKSVkrITRyisFNGZZxGBA

Mrbig.8019:

[…]

stun the necro

[…]

Necrotic Traversal
Plague Signet
Spectral Armor
Spectral Walk
Well of Power

The last 10 or so necromancers I found had 2 or 3 of these.
And were tagging along engineers, mesmers and rangers, all full of condition spam skill and condition AoEs.

I have freaking Melandru runes, shake it off, signet of stamina, mending etc and they did nothing at all, no matter your timing to remove conditions, they just simply reapply them right away.
My health went down faster than an elementalist’s with no vitality standing still doing nothing. And I didn’t even stand in most of the AoEs, and the ones I stepped where for less than half a second, at the end of beginning of dodges.

It’s insane.