Guild Wars 2

Sorry if this has already been posted. I did a little searching and couldn’t finding anything.
But why does everyone hate this match? I did a little PvP on release but not much recently. I personally think the map is half decent, but not something to be reviled.

ChillyChinaman.6057:

Sorry if this has already been posted. I did a little searching and couldn’t finding anything.
But why does everyone hate this match? I did a little PvP on release but not much recently. I personally think the map is half decent, but not something to be reviled.

It’s not as bad now but it still is. There used to be 10000000000 sharks in the ruins and basically whoever capped ruin first would win the game / win the point forever because the sharks did way too much damage. Another reason why is because the points are so close to eachother that the game becomes a zerg battle and it’s just not fun.

also alot of us boycott water combat all together because for some classes it just sucks
s a map where a 3rd of the objective is underwater is a no no

The problem with this map is the lack of balance in underwater combat.

Some classes have underwater skills which are much stronger than other classes. On top of that with many utility skills locked while in water, some classes have a very poor choice of utilities underwater.

Take the thief as an example. Some people fear underwater thieves since they have two quite good damage and dodge at same time abilities underwater. But at the same time Thief is a class that greatly relies on stealth, and their options to stealth once going underwater are almost nill. There’s no Cloak and Dagger skill, black powder doesn’t work, shadow refuge doesn’t work, basically the only stealth skill is the self heal.

And then there’s the limited selection of underwater weapons which means your land based build might be useless underwater. For example, as a condition thief my only option underwater is the harpoon gun. Except that it’s a terrible weapon that has it’s bleeds last less time than pistol/dagger (because you can’t slot a second sigil for +10% bleed duration), it’s sneak attack deals 3 bleed stacks instead of the land based 5, and as mentioned above there’s barely any stealth skills to help you stack bleeds faster than the auto attack. Also you are locked into your weakest elite skill and to utilities you’d rarely use on land.

So in short underwater combat balance is a mess, and this directly affects this map.

I hate the underwater combat, but I just avoid Ruins unless I need to go because nobody else is. The map also can become zergy near spawn points which can be annoying.

I still hate the trebs in Khylo more though.

Underwater combat is insanely unbalanced.

Try fighting a ranger or an engie underwater, and then you will understand.

1. Underwater combat is undeveloped, needs it’s own trait set, down & skill reworks.
2. Cannon is kitten
3. Sharks

underwater combat is just tiresome even if it was balanced, apart from that “skirmishes” seem broken on that level, and with the lack of points switching hands, games usually last longer and score less on that lvl then anywhere else. just get rid of it, the other lvls are all fine, and temple is great fun

you wont get as much glory as in other maps……..sharks……underwater………..cannon………..bad design of map anyway. I leave this map before it starts everytime.

Underwater combat.

Seriously doesn’t belong in PVP, doesn’t add anything special and feels like a waste of time. I don’t know about people but when I’m fighting underwater I just press random buttons. Achieves more or less the same result.

Also the layout of this map is kind of bad. This is the worst PVP Map by far IMO!

Somtimes I go to ruins to battle but I normally just avoid it

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Underwater Ranger