Guild Wars 2

You cannot I repeat you cannot land all 9 hits of 100 blades before they get up from bull’s charge knockdown if you are using frenzy.

For those saying it was not that bad of a nerf, this is the point we are crying about.
In addition to we now have a skill that says basically,
“For 5 seconds, do 50% more damage and take 50% more damage.” Necro self infliction isn’t even that serious. It is like take you heart out of your chest, you can now run faster for 3 seconds lol.

Jeez. You blokes just don’t stop. What did you do for the other 55 seconds that frenzy was on cooldown?

It literally added an extra second to 100b under haste. Which you can get out once per minute. 1 extra second once per minute.

Maybe 100blades wasnt supposed to be 100% landed on a target? And probably made to 1hit npcs and not players, while still being able to 1hit slow players. I dont see any 20k damage 1 hit short on cd skill around with 100% guaranted hit rate.

People do know that 100b isn’t our only skill right?

Hard enough to land with only minimal dps returns, frenzy was for everything else too.
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But hey, lets just all roll ele because they seem to be getting buffs at the top tier.

Frenzy was a required skill on every real pvp warrior build. If you don’t understand that, you haven’t played a warrior (which is dumb imo, you should try EVERY class in spvp since you only need to hit lvl 2 to reach the mists)

Every other class in the game has at least 2 viable builds imo (one may be stronger, than the other, but I’ve never felt like a class was absolutely pigeon-holed into 1 build before aside from warrior. And now that pigeon-holed build is bad now). For example the entire meditation line on guardian was nerfed to the ground, you could still bunker with a shouts build. Hell, even dps guardian builds aren’t complete trash (the way say… a warrior bunker or warrior condition build is) I could nerf the most OP ability in any other class, and there would still be a semi-viable fall-back build (lets pretend i nerfed every condition build on necro – they could still build power/wells) Once you nerf GS burst build for warrior, whats the fall back plan really? Condition bleeds (with no way to cover it?) Bunker build that has almost no sustain or condition removal? Dps build without the main dps burst ability? please explain???

This is why warriors are angry. It was bad enough being pigeon-holled into 1 build. Its now worse that they nerfed said build.

Valkyriez.6578:

Jeez. You blokes just don’t stop. What did you do for the other 55 seconds that frenzy was on cooldown?

It literally added an extra second to 100b under haste. Which you can get out once per minute. 1 extra second once per minute.

uh its our classes main burst which dosent do anything now. So uh lets see your classes main burst get kitten

Meh, I played axe/mace warrior with no issues. Sword/shield for 2nd set for added utility and control. I didn’t play at the top level though, but either did 95% of the other people claiming to.

Go duel a great sword dps guardian on your great sword warrior 100 times. You could win 99 of them with nothing but an amulet on.

Valkyriez.6578:

Meh, I played axe/mace warrior with no issues. Sword/shield for 2nd set for added utility and control. I didn’t play at the top level though, but either did 95% of the other people claiming to.

Go duel a great sword dps guardian on your great sword warrior 100 times. You could win 99 of them with nothing but an amulet on.

Actually a Warrior would win close to 10% of them, unless you were running no secondary heals (meditation, AH, Symbol).

• HB is easily kited, if with frenzy + bulls it’s easily dodged. If you miss the dodge then you use Stand Your Ground + dodge and you dodge at least half of it.
• Whirling Attack is easily dodged, although this is the one I personally have trouble dodging (for some reason my brain doesn’t pay attention to the animation) but other people do not.
• Bladetrail is easily kited.

Warrior burst is entirely easily dodged and a Guardian using any of the three secondary heals will be easily able to defeat one. Remember the entire time the Warrior is taking retaliation, so you’re wearing them down without fighting.

But again this is a team game, so Warriors already needed a Guardian to snare for them or the enemy to be trying to res/stomp or out of dodges. In a 1v1 situation all the dodges are saved for use against the one player not the whole team.

tl;dr: Warriors are actually at a significant disadvantage no matter what the Guardian build.

Sorry silvan, gotta disagree with you there. If I wasn’t on my phone I would go further into detail but great sword v greatsword a warrior should win easily.

Other weapons in the mix and it changes things, but without the hp to last long enough for sub optimal damage to wear him down, the warrior will rock you.

Valkyriez.6578:

Sorry silvan, gotta disagree with you there. If I wasn’t on my phone I would go further into detail but great sword v greatsword a warrior should win easily.

Other weapons in the mix and it changes things, but without the hp to last long enough for sub optimal damage to wear him down, the warrior will rock you.

What build are your using?

I’ll post you some PMs when I stop traveling. I’ve read all your guides and tried the builds in there. If I take scepter or sword/shild or torch, yeah, u can beat a warrior but if you go seekers ammy you are 7k hp behind right there with only healing power and toughness from traits. If you forego those traits and go pure glass, it’s like 13k hp and u can be Insta killed.

Stand your ground and double or trip meditations can only get you so far.

Valkyriez.6578:

Jeez. You blokes just don’t stop. What did you do for the other 55 seconds that frenzy was on cooldown?

It literally added an extra second to 100b under haste. Which you can get out once per minute. 1 extra second once per minute.

Not sure if you get the point. If the purpose of the combo was to land the skill and now you can’t land the skill. So the majority of the build is ruined. And for the other 55 seconds, a warrior was doing the same thing a thief would do. Sure our “sustain” is unaffected, but now you have no kill securing ability. It becomes an attrition battle and warriors are not build for that as shown in their lack of defensive boons and sub par healing options.

I deserve the right to complain, I have to roll a new main, or just get passed over for tpvp. Just sucks to waste hours for a class breaking nerf.

Valkyriez.6578:

Meh, I played axe/mace warrior with no issues. Sword/shield for 2nd set for added utility and control. I didn’t play at the top level though, but either did 95% of the other people claiming to.

Go duel a great sword dps guardian on your great sword warrior 100 times. You could win 99 of them with nothing but an amulet on.

You’re obviously a terrible guardian. Sidenote: GS is good for hybrid builds and not in any way viable for a full dps guard. A full dps guard brings scepter/torch and sword/focus. Which means imboilize, blind and block. it’s too easy to stay in range.
Now look at GS. That means you wanna get into close-range to every opponent AS A GC. That makes not any sense.

PS: if you loose as a guard to a warrior you should stop playing guardian and go ele instead.

why is everyone still calling it hundred blades?
dontcha know its been renamed Fifty Blades?

What needs clarification is that this was a nerf to all forms of warrior burst, not just 100db. Complaining you can’t get your 100db off is misinforming the community.

Axe was always much better with frenzy anyway FYI, with the exception of dealing with necros, where a bulls charge 100db would often suffice (and that’s their problem).

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Valkyriez.6578:

Meh, I played axe/mace warrior with no issues. Sword/shield for 2nd set for added utility and control. I didn’t play at the top level though, but either did 95% of the other people claiming to.

Go duel a great sword dps guardian on your great sword warrior 100 times. You could win 99 of them with nothing but an amulet on.

You’re obviously a terrible guardian. Sidenote: GS is good for hybrid builds and not in any way viable for a full dps guard. A full dps guard brings scepter/torch and sword/focus. Which means imboilize, blind and block. it’s too easy to stay in range.
Now look at GS. That means you wanna get into close-range to every opponent AS A GC. That makes not any sense.

PS: if you loose as a guard to a warrior you should stop playing guardian and go ele instead.

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Phaeton.9582:

What needs clarification is that this was a nerf to all forms of warrior burst, not just 100db. Complaining you can’t get your 100db off is misinforming the community.

Axe was always much better with frenzy anyway FYI, with the exception of dealing with necros, where a bulls charge 100db would often suffice (and that’s their problem).

This is misconception. Although my sig used to say frenzy auto axe>> frenzy 100 blades. It is only true if target is not stationary.

And I am not misinforming, it is the truth. War sustain is unaffected by this.

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Phaeton.9582:

What needs clarification is that this was a nerf to all forms of warrior burst, not just 100db. Complaining you can’t get your 100db off is misinforming the community.

Axe was always much better with frenzy anyway FYI, with the exception of dealing with necros, where a bulls charge 100db would often suffice (and that’s their problem).

This is misconception. Although my sig used to say frenzy auto axe>> frenzy 100 blades. It is only true if target is not stationary.

And I am not misinforming, it is the truth. War sustain is unaffected by this.

In pve sure!

But in pvp when people are moving about all which way, we don’t have “sustained damage”. Frenzy gave us more damage because we were the only class that didn’t have sustained. Now its nerfed by 50%, so yup, its a nerf to our overrall pvp damage.

you should wait for the BIG PVP PATCH in april…or may..don’t know.

Oh no, you can’t insta-gib players anymore in Bull’s Charge.

You might have to research new warrior builds that require skill.

Oh no.

Empiren.6401:

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Phaeton.9582:

What needs clarification is that this was a nerf to all forms of warrior burst, not just 100db. Complaining you can’t get your 100db off is misinforming the community.

Axe was always much better with frenzy anyway FYI, with the exception of dealing with necros, where a bulls charge 100db would often suffice (and that’s their problem).

This is misconception. Although my sig used to say frenzy auto axe>> frenzy 100 blades. It is only true if target is not stationary.

And I am not misinforming, it is the truth. War sustain is unaffected by this.

In pve sure!

But in pvp when people are moving about all which way, we don’t have “sustained damage”. Frenzy gave us more damage because we were the only class that didn’t have sustained. Now its nerfed by 50%, so yup, its a nerf to our overrall pvp damage.

I don’t pve. War had sustain in pvp. People will probably argue with me about this, but you didn’t always have to hide.

Honestly I dont main warrior but it is now sooooo bad its untrue. The class is just officially useless. Anter dont realise the size of the nerf obv

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Empiren.6401:

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Phaeton.9582:

What needs clarification is that this was a nerf to all forms of warrior burst, not just 100db. Complaining you can’t get your 100db off is misinforming the community.

Axe was always much better with frenzy anyway FYI, with the exception of dealing with necros, where a bulls charge 100db would often suffice (and that’s their problem).

This is misconception. Although my sig used to say frenzy auto axe>> frenzy 100 blades. It is only true if target is not stationary.

And I am not misinforming, it is the truth. War sustain is unaffected by this.

In pve sure!

But in pvp when people are moving about all which way, we don’t have “sustained damage”. Frenzy gave us more damage because we were the only class that didn’t have sustained. Now its nerfed by 50%, so yup, its a nerf to our overrall pvp damage.

I don’t pve. War had sustain in pvp. People will probably argue with me about this, but you didn’t always have to hide.

Really, what “sustained” damage does it have. Please tell me, because i’m pretty sure warrior has none outside of RF or LB which count for nothing.

If your telling me all you did in a tournament was run in and hit 7,8,2 and run out…
Your missing out on a lot of damage

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If your telling me all you did in a tournament was run in and hit 7,8,2 and run out…
Your missing out on a lot of damage

Please, answer my question. What sustained damage does warrior have? Don’t dismiss the issue you brought up.

I always laugh when a warrior on my team heals and I see their hp bar go up about an inch lol. Mending heals for so little it is an insult.

Lordrosicky.5813:

I always laugh when a warrior on my team heals and I see their hp bar go up about an inch lol. Mending heals for so little it is an insult.

Heals the same as everyone, for the exception of guardians which heals like 10k. Its just that the warriors hp pool is incredibly high.

Sustain is all the damage outside of burst. axe auto attack whirlwind every other number on your bar but 100 blades and eviscerate. I do not understand what is the problem.

Would adding a 3sec kd to bull charge fix it?

Yay! No one trick pony insta-gib builds.

Gallrvaghn.4921:

Yay! No one trick pony insta-gib builds.

I’ll just go back to my sword/sword condi warrior, I guess.

Larynx.2453:

Gallrvaghn.4921:

Yay! No one trick pony insta-gib builds.

I’ll just go back to my sword/sword condi warrior, I guess.

Try banners. With the recent buff, they are now OP.

quicknes nerf was needed, unfortunately it hit warrior pretty hard.
They need to give some love to this class for sure.

Just run throw bolas. : ]

I am on to hammer. Working on anti ele warrior builds basically.