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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

I’ve been a software manager (I am an older guy). And the PvP side of this game has all the hallmarks that ArenaNet upper management made a decision to really limit the effort/investment on the PvP side of this game. (I.e. the Spirit map bug on rezzing, the limited scope of the PvP improvements and balance).

That puts the PvP developers and testers in a really tough position. No matter what they are able to do in their limited time, they will be yelled at by angry PvP community members. When you look at how many FTE (fulltime equivalent employees) assigned to PvP development, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have just two FTEs… and a 1/2 FTE manager/designer.

The big thing must be that this game will make most of its money from the Black Lion Trading company and a PvE focus.

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Posted by: Oni.5429

Oni.5429

Why does arenanet think that the pvpers would not buy special skins for cash if it would allow them to be used in pvp (similiar to what some already did with some of the pve skins like the grinning shield)?

Just add a ton of new skins in the shop and pvpers will buy it, look at league of legends for example.

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Posted by: Harrier.9380

Harrier.9380

What Helseth said. I know lots of people who never played p2p games coz of monthly fees, but happily threw 20-30€ a month for some cool skins in f2p games.

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Posted by: ensoriki.5789

ensoriki.5789

^ I don’t think that’s the problem.
They’re not making a lot of costumes in general even for their gem store.
Presumably because the different races make development time on that front longer.
So even if they wanted us to buy more skins, it takes them more time to make em then it did say GW1.

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Posted by: gwawer.9805

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Conversation overheard meeting between Anet and NCSoft at corporate headquarters

NC: Quarterry profits are up. We want to focusu on Geeild Warsu Two as ourr beeggest furanchise

Anet: For this month we will be focusing on updating mostly SPVP changes. Many players are threatening to quit and the SPVP dev team really needs resources.

NC: We wanting to rerease new pinku quaggan backupacku so you can sell.

Anet: Ok we can easily do that. But first here are my proposed plans for SPVP revamping.

NC: Prreeaese move your programmers to fixing the bugs on the Fractals dungeon and wee want you to rereeease another tier of armor on the gem storu.

Anet: SPVP needs…

NC: esupvp (SPVP…) we can talk about later. Right now we wanting add more items to gem store.

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

Why does arenanet think that the pvpers would not buy special skins for cash if it would allow them to be used in pvp (similiar to what some already did with some of the pve skins like the grinning shield)?

Just add a ton of new skins in the shop and pvpers will buy it, look at league of legends for example.

That’s a good idea. Do something to increase the funds for PvP development.

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

I agree and it doesn’t take a backround like yours (OP) to see that pve is the focus of this game. Pvp will never get the attention it needs at this rate, I figured even wvw would get more love.

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Posted by: Nemui.6753

Nemui.6753

Conversation overheard meeting between Anet and NCSoft at corporate headquarters

NC: Quarterry profits are up. We want to focusu on Geeild Warsu Two as ourr beeggest furanchise

Anet: For this month we will be focusing on updating mostly SPVP changes. Many players are threatening to quit and the SPVP dev team really needs resources.

NC: We wanting to rerease new pinku quaggan backupacku so you can sell.

Anet: Ok we can easily do that. But first here are my proposed plans for SPVP revamping.

NC: Prreeaese move your programmers to fixing the bugs on the Fractals dungeon and wee want you to rereeease another tier of armor on the gem storu.

Anet: SPVP needs…

NC: esupvp (SPVP…) we can talk about later. Right now we wanting add more items to gem store.

they’re korean, not japanese.

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Posted by: Zinwrath.2049

Zinwrath.2049

Kinda been suggesting this from the beginning. It seems like money isnt being allocated to gw2 spvp…they’re simply splitting the resources between a massive mmo, a wvwvw game, and a completely seperate E-sport game. The team is too small to get an e-sport going, and held by too many corperate chains…. Its sad to see a great idea never come to fruition, but HOPEFULLY other more capable game companys are watching and reading the feedback and learning from gw2, so perhaps the next games coming out wont make the same mistakes.

Personally, i think they shoulda just went with one game type instead of splitting themselves so thin.. They shoulda just released a game called “guild wars: heart of the mists” as a stand-alone title. But oh well.

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Posted by: atheria.2837

atheria.2837

Conversation overheard meeting between Anet and NCSoft at corporate headquarters

NC: Quarterry profits are up. We want to focusu on Geeild Warsu Two as ourr beeggest furanchise

Anet: For this month we will be focusing on updating mostly SPVP changes. Many players are threatening to quit and the SPVP dev team really needs resources.

NC: We wanting to rerease new pinku quaggan backupacku so you can sell.

Anet: Ok we can easily do that. But first here are my proposed plans for SPVP revamping.

NC: Prreeaese move your programmers to fixing the bugs on the Fractals dungeon and wee want you to rereeease another tier of armor on the gem storu.

Anet: SPVP needs…

NC: esupvp (SPVP…) we can talk about later. Right now we wanting add more items to gem store.

It’s obvious that this game, no matter what the nationality of the owners are, don’t care one whit about spvp OR WvW.

American’s want one thing…. a great end game after slogging through “the game” – complete with social interaction and DEVELOPER PLAYERS WHO ARE ON EVERY SERVER AND SEE FIRST HAND WHAT IS NOT BEING DONE!

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Posted by: DDog.4350

DDog.4350

Why does arenanet think that the pvpers would not buy special skins for cash if it would allow them to be used in pvp (similiar to what some already did with some of the pve skins like the grinning shield)?

Just add a ton of new skins in the shop and pvpers will buy it, look at league of legends for example.

If they would make Backpack for pvp that hides my engi backpacks i would throw large amounts of money at my screen.

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Posted by: Baba Baba Ba.9810

Baba Baba Ba.9810

I completely agree. The Spvp team does seem to consist of about 4 Guys, which is clearly not enough.
All the hating, all the flaming on this forum actually boils down to the point that stuff just ain’t happenin . So, yeah, it’s a ressource problem.

And this is the part where i feel like quitting the game. Because no matter how hard I try, no matter how hard I personally contact the dev’s, I will never be able to get Arenanet to change their layout in ressources. It’s depressing.

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Posted by: Opc.4718

Opc.4718

I agree and it doesn’t take a backround like yours (OP) to see that pve is the focus of this game. Pvp will never get the attention it needs at this rate, I figured even wvw would get more love.

Wvw love? Are you kidding me? Read the wvw forum page, there’s probably just as much QQ threads around. I can’t even remember the last update they did in wvw except to remove orbs a few months ago, and then to remove all the pve environmental weapons. Simple exploits such as jumping right through towers/keeps took them FOREVER to fix.

The “big wvw patch” is apparently coming out next month, but I fully expect this to happen: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/GUYS-NEXT-PATCH/first#post1525176

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Posted by: Psyco Flipside.1936

Psyco Flipside.1936

I’m also a software developper and I’m pretty much agreed with you.
But think about one thing: the QP ladder was supposed to be integrated in game (“This method of displaying the QP’s is temporary until the full system comes online.”). Be honest with me, how long does it take to code it given the fact that they already gather the variable values in order to paste them on the forums? You and me know that it takes less than one day…
The same goes for the new matchmaking rating system. They haven’t implemented the new leaderboard yet.
The same goes for the observer mode and the private match systems, which can be developped in less than 2 months.
Share your thoughts here.

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Posted by: Larynx.2453

Larynx.2453

I’m also a software developper and I’m pretty much agreed with you.
But think about one thing: the QP ladder was supposed to be integrated in game (“This method of displaying the QP’s is temporary until the full system comes online.”). Be honest with me, how long does it take to code it given the fact that they already gather the variable values in order to paste them on the forums? You and me know that it takes less than one day…
The same goes for the new matchmaking rating system. They haven’t implemented the new leaderboard yet.
The same goes for the observer mode and the private match systems, which can be developped in less than 2 months.
Share your thoughts here.

It’s a social experiment at this point.

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Posted by: Batmang.5421

Batmang.5421

Great post. It’s good people are starting to realize what the real problem is. The devs are on our side. Complaining to them doesn’t help us one bit. I’ve been saying this for MONTHS. The only way for pvp to get the features we need is for anet to devise a way to make money from it. Until they start making money from pvp it will not be a priority. End of story.

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Posted by: Sovta.4719

Sovta.4719

Question for programmers: How long do you think it takes to make 1 (ONE) map and import it in this game? At this rate i’m wondering will we see more then 10 maps.