Guild Wars 2

My concern about season 2 is that anet has chopped Mesmer back so far we’re almost out of the game.

Silverthorn.8576:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Not really…The winning team will get a pip so unless the loss is one sided I don’t see the point tbh. IMO, above 400+ losses shouldn’t result in pip loss.

Players have to try hard into win games and not loosing above 400+.
I don’t care about grinding shiny butterfly wings, i want matchs which worth to be played.

This … this is rank, we already have enough people saying that rank doesn’t equate to skill. Well.2 anet should set then system so the only to get a pip is to win a game. I totally agree with you; rank is supposed to be competitive, you wither w8n or lose.

Fivedawgs.4267:

Silverthorn.8576:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Not really…The winning team will get a pip so unless the loss is one sided I don’t see the point tbh. IMO, above 400+ losses shouldn’t result in pip loss.

Players have to try hard into win games and not loosing above 400+.
I don’t care about grinding shiny butterfly wings, i want matchs which worth to be played.

This … this is rank, we already have enough people saying that rank doesn’t equate to skill. Well.2 anet should set then system so the only to get a pip is to win a game. I totally agree with you; rank is supposed to be competitive, you wither w8n or lose.

Read what I wrote again i.e. not losing pips to keep the score competitive, not gain pips. Net gain/loss of zero pips in a match doesn’t equal gain of pips. You’re twisting my words.

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Silverthorn.8576:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Not really…The winning team will get a pip so unless the loss is one sided I don’t see the point tbh. IMO, above 400+ losses shouldn’t result in pip loss.

Players have to try hard into win games and not loosing above 400+.
I don’t care about grinding shiny butterfly wings, i want matchs which worth to be played.

This … this is rank, we already have enough people saying that rank doesn’t equate to skill. Well.2 anet should set then system so the only to get a pip is to win a game. I totally agree with you; rank is supposed to be competitive, you wither w8n or lose.

Read what I wrote again i.e. not losing pips to keep the score competitive, not gain pips. Net gain/loss of zero pips in a match doesn’t equal gain of pips. You’re twisting my words.

Nope, I know what you meant. And my point being loss = -1 pip and win = 1 pip gain. I wasn’t twisting your words, I am against the safe net you are trying, so hard, to create for losers.

Fivedawgs.4267:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Silverthorn.8576:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Not really…The winning team will get a pip so unless the loss is one sided I don’t see the point tbh. IMO, above 400+ losses shouldn’t result in pip loss.

Players have to try hard into win games and not loosing above 400+.
I don’t care about grinding shiny butterfly wings, i want matchs which worth to be played.

This … this is rank, we already have enough people saying that rank doesn’t equate to skill. Well.2 anet should set then system so the only to get a pip is to win a game. I totally agree with you; rank is supposed to be competitive, you wither w8n or lose.

Read what I wrote again i.e. not losing pips to keep the score competitive, not gain pips. Net gain/loss of zero pips in a match doesn’t equal gain of pips. You’re twisting my words.

Nope, I know what you meant. And my point being loss = -1 pip and win = 1 pip gain. I wasn’t twisting your words, I am against the safe net you are trying, so hard, to create for losers.

Then you clearly don’t understand the potential problems it’ll lead to in pug teams/soloQ matches or atleast pretending not to in which case there’s very little to take this little argument forward. We can agree to disagree

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Fivedawgs.4267:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Silverthorn.8576:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Not really…The winning team will get a pip so unless the loss is one sided I don’t see the point tbh. IMO, above 400+ losses shouldn’t result in pip loss.

Players have to try hard into win games and not loosing above 400+.
I don’t care about grinding shiny butterfly wings, i want matchs which worth to be played.

This … this is rank, we already have enough people saying that rank doesn’t equate to skill. Well.2 anet should set then system so the only to get a pip is to win a game. I totally agree with you; rank is supposed to be competitive, you wither w8n or lose.

Read what I wrote again i.e. not losing pips to keep the score competitive, not gain pips. Net gain/loss of zero pips in a match doesn’t equal gain of pips. You’re twisting my words.

Nope, I know what you meant. And my point being loss = -1 pip and win = 1 pip gain. I wasn’t twisting your words, I am against the safe net you are trying, so hard, to create for losers.

Then you clearly don’t understand the potential problems it’ll lead to in pug teams/soloQ matches or atleast pretending not to in which case there’s very little to take this little argument forward. We can agree to disagree

Pretending to?? As if I ve never lost a close game. You are the one who is being shortsighted by the issue at hand. All you are doing is giving more ammo to the “league sint tatamount to skill” crowd. Rank is supposed to WAR,COMPETITVE,where chicken get slaughter by bears, it’s supposed to bring the Viking out of you. I guess not everyone share my point but I just wanted to LET ANET KNOWS that not everyone share that idea of yours.

Fivedawgs.4267:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Fivedawgs.4267:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Silverthorn.8576:

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Not really…The winning team will get a pip so unless the loss is one sided I don’t see the point tbh. IMO, above 400+ losses shouldn’t result in pip loss.

Players have to try hard into win games and not loosing above 400+.
I don’t care about grinding shiny butterfly wings, i want matchs which worth to be played.

This … this is rank, we already have enough people saying that rank doesn’t equate to skill. Well.2 anet should set then system so the only to get a pip is to win a game. I totally agree with you; rank is supposed to be competitive, you wither w8n or lose.

Read what I wrote again i.e. not losing pips to keep the score competitive, not gain pips. Net gain/loss of zero pips in a match doesn’t equal gain of pips. You’re twisting my words.

Nope, I know what you meant. And my point being loss = -1 pip and win = 1 pip gain. I wasn’t twisting your words, I am against the safe net you are trying, so hard, to create for losers.

Then you clearly don’t understand the potential problems it’ll lead to in pug teams/soloQ matches or atleast pretending not to in which case there’s very little to take this little argument forward. We can agree to disagree

Pretending to?? As if I ve never lost a close game. You are the one who is being shortsighted by the issue at hand. All you are doing is giving more ammo to the “league sint tatamount to skill” crowd. Rank is supposed to WAR,COMPETITVE,where chicken get slaughter by bears, it’s supposed to bring the Viking out of you. I guess not everyone share my point but I just wanted to LET ANET KNOWS that not everyone share that idea of yours.

I don’t even….what issues are you even talking about? Care to elaborate? It seems you’re one of those who thinks this is eSports lol

Thanks for your opinion. Just from the posts in this thread (and other threads in this subforum) it seems you’re among the minority.

And I do think this is esport.

if you are always playing in a team of 5(skilled players) and you are also communicating in a voice program, your only chance to lose is if you are against another team of 5 that is more skilled than you.
but if your are doing soloQ and you have a Win/Lose ratio of 50% imagine the difficulty to gain tiers or divisions. Not for having an icon next to your name but for getting some rewards for it.

I sometimes had to team up for getting a tier cause of the losing point. I am not saying we must not lose points, but when you lose a match with a small difference you shouldn’t lose a point. In season 1 this was working hopefully it will continue in season 2

Evan Lesh.3295:

Malediktus.9250:

Does this mean soloQing to legendary will be even harder than in season 1? It does sound like it

It should be easier since your teammates will be of more similar skill instead of the team teams having player skill split between them. Imagine matchmaking as if it were trying to make a bunch of 1v1 matches by picking 5 players as similar as possible to fight another set of 5 similar players.

Well can already say its worse than before, 80% loss rate atm.

I apologise in advance if this is not the correct forum thread, but I hope anet notices that this type of pip rewards is way to dependant on the team you end up with regardles of our experience. As an averafge PvP-er who intends to solo Q, I dont see how if our team is fairly behind, someone ragequits/afks and hopes for idk mabye pitty-pip™ the next round, puts a whole team at a disadvantage as to before (season1) if 4v5 was played well enough throughout, you could at least hope to hold your pips at a 0 loss. Now well unless you end up being by chance of RNGesus on a winning streak I dont see it working my way out of even sapphire much less ruby and i got to ruby 50% fairly easy last time without any mmr exploitation (or whatever some were doing to better their pip reward) as I`m… to be fair pretty lazy to spend time on something I`d need to understand how it works in the 1st place and I got into the ranked very late due to real life matters.
Would also appreciate no l2p remarks, as Typed above I`m an average PvP-er who knows that I can improve as well, but I cant remember the time I`d not at least try to go all the way. Not that it matters now, as unless you win there are times (happens quite often at least to me, even more than last season) that due to big point gap someone starts to rage/afk