Guild Wars 2

Seriosuly..They make MUCH better trap rangers than ranger. It’s ridiculous. I literally could not kill them tonight on my own trap ranger…They have extremely powerful traps, including an ELITE trap that rangers don’t even have and then they have all the usual blocks and buffs a guardian brings.

It’s ridiculously op in pvp. Either buff the other classes or tone down the strength of their traps and lb.

You mean an elite spec is better than a generic one? No way! Druids heal better than Guardians, nerf Druids plz!

If only Rangers had a pet to set off the traps. Why would you even be close enough anyways? Ranger longbow has a longer range than DH, send in pet, stay out of range, rapid fire, pew pew. Easy peasy.

Seriously, what is it with Rangers and bad players? It seems like half the complaining on this board is from Rangers.

oh look another generic whiner who cant counter a dh what a surprise seriously do research and learn to counter instead brainlessly whining DH is too strong wah wah wah.

Elpredator.8523:

seriously do research and learn to counter instead brainlessly whining DH is too strong wah wah wah.

Why would people do that? It’s easier to log on the forums and bloat out a bunch “wah wah wah” instead of playing the game.

Elpredator.8523:

oh look another generic whiner who cant counter a dh what a surprise seriously do research and learn to counter instead brainlessly whining DH is too strong wah wah wah.

Oh look another armchair warrior who complains about the complainers. Shut up

no i just find you whiners hilarious lol

logan.5846:

You mean an elite spec is better than a generic one? No way! Druids heal better than Guardians, nerf Druids plz!

If only Rangers had a pet to set off the traps. Why would you even be close enough anyways? Ranger longbow has a longer range than DH, send in pet, stay out of range, rapid fire, pew pew. Easy peasy.

Seriously, what is it with Rangers and bad players? It seems like half the complaining on this board is from Rangers.

Send in pet to what? an empty point that has no one there except 3 dh traps that u don’t see? You know that rangers have other weapons than Longbow right? You know that elite specs are not supposed to overcome the regular ones right? It’s an “alternative” spec. Odd how people take the name so literally.

Buy expansion →go druid, you will beat them

Mitch.4781:

logan.5846:

You mean an elite spec is better than a generic one? No way! Druids heal better than Guardians, nerf Druids plz!

If only Rangers had a pet to set off the traps. Why would you even be close enough anyways? Ranger longbow has a longer range than DH, send in pet, stay out of range, rapid fire, pew pew. Easy peasy.

Seriously, what is it with Rangers and bad players? It seems like half the complaining on this board is from Rangers.

Send in pet to what? an empty point that has no one there except 3 dh traps that u don’t see? You know that rangers have other weapons than Longbow right? You know that elite specs are not supposed to overcome the regular ones right? It’s an “alternative” spec. Odd how people take the name so literally.

lemme guess mitch also thinks elite specs are pay to win (prob hasnt played any) and every elite spec is OP

logan.5846:

You mean an elite spec is better than a generic one? No way! Druids heal better than Guardians, nerf Druids plz!

If only Rangers had a pet to set off the traps. Why would you even be close enough anyways? Ranger longbow has a longer range than DH, send in pet, stay out of range, rapid fire, pew pew. Easy peasy.

Seriously, what is it with Rangers and bad players? It seems like half the complaining on this board is from Rangers.

Elites are not meant to be better. It’s elite because you only get one. Like you get one elite skill. For the future when there’s more elite specs. Stop this nonsense kids.

Mitch.4781:

Seriosuly..They make MUCH better trap rangers than ranger. It’s ridiculous. I literally could not kill them tonight on my own trap ranger…They have extremely powerful traps, including an ELITE trap that rangers don’t even have and then they have all the usual blocks and buffs a guardian brings.

It’s ridiculously op in pvp. Either buff the other classes or tone down the strength of their traps and lb.

Have you read the details of the DH skills (traps, traits, and bow)? It is kind of unbelievable. It is like taking a trapper ranger and then removing all the downside for taking traps and adding so many extra buffs, that most players wouldn’t even have had the nerve to ask for or imagine.

Apart from damage that can take even my ranger equipped with rabid and under protection from 100-0 before I get a chance to react, 2 of the traps are instant cast, one breaks stun (wtf right! trap ranger ‘s dream), and the traps apply the following: daze, stability, blind, swiftness, vulnerability, revealed, protection, fury, slow, aegis, cripple, might. The heal trap can also be “double cast” like normal traps, unlike the rangers heal trap (ranger version doesn’t trigger a heal if not used straight away), for massive burst healing.

But the traps being totally OP compared to ranger traps is just the beginning. They also get a 1200 range instant cast unblockable pull, a trait that auto procs knock back every 10 secs on any bow skill or auto attack, which also gives 6 SECONDS of STABILITY – ie 60% stability uptime, and the bow skills themselves are none too shabby.

DH is OP because they’re better than trap rangers…? At least other threads were a bit more on point.

“Wish my ranger had DH traps!”
“Wish my Guard had Warriors Torch!”
“Wish my Wells were better than Mesmers!”
“Wish I had Druid’s staff!”

Yea, we wish our weapons or utilities worked as well as these specialization builds. Well… it’s that class’s specialization… that’s kind of the point. If it was bad then no one would choose it and HoT would consequently suck.

uhohhotdog.3598:

logan.5846:

You mean an elite spec is better than a generic one? No way! Druids heal better than Guardians, nerf Druids plz!

If only Rangers had a pet to set off the traps. Why would you even be close enough anyways? Ranger longbow has a longer range than DH, send in pet, stay out of range, rapid fire, pew pew. Easy peasy.

Seriously, what is it with Rangers and bad players? It seems like half the complaining on this board is from Rangers.

Elites are not meant to be better. It’s elite because you only get one. Like you get one elite skill. For the future when there’s more elite specs. Stop this nonsense kids.

Well, they are. Druid heals are better than Guardian heals, Scrapper hammer is better than Guardian hammer, Reaper greatsword is better than Guardian GS, Herald buffs are better than Guardian buffs, etc.

Yet the class that overwhelmingly whines that they don’t have the best of absolutely everything are Rangers. I’d wager nearly every DH in the game would happily trade traps for Rapid Fire alone.

Yasha.5963:

Mitch.4781:

Seriosuly..They make MUCH better trap rangers than ranger. It’s ridiculous. I literally could not kill them tonight on my own trap ranger…They have extremely powerful traps, including an ELITE trap that rangers don’t even have and then they have all the usual blocks and buffs a guardian brings.

It’s ridiculously op in pvp. Either buff the other classes or tone down the strength of their traps and lb.

Have you read the details of the DH skills (traps, traits, and bow)? It is kind of unbelievable. It is like taking a trapper ranger and then removing all the downside for taking traps and adding so many extra buffs, that most players wouldn’t even have had the nerve to ask for or imagine.

Apart from damage that can take even my ranger equipped with rabid and under protection from 100-0 before I get a chance to react, 2 of the traps are instant cast, one breaks stun (wtf right! trap ranger ‘s dream), and the traps apply the following: daze, stability, blind, swiftness, vulnerability, revealed, protection, fury, slow, aegis, cripple, might. The heal trap can also be “double cast” like normal traps, unlike the rangers heal trap (ranger version doesn’t trigger a heal if not used straight away), for massive burst healing.

But the traps being totally OP compared to ranger traps is just the beginning. They also get a 1200 range instant cast unblockable pull, a trait that auto procs knock back every 10 secs on any bow skill or auto attack, which also gives 6 SECONDS of STABILITY – ie 60% stability uptime, and the bow skills themselves are none too shabby.

That’s cool bro, but in order to get all those benefits you are propping up, you need to equip all 5 traps, which most DH don’t do, because the sustain is too low.

Try not to exaggerate to make your point next time.

PS: they can’t actually equip all the traps. They will either choose between the stunbreaker trap (the one with the aegis and stability) or the reveal trap (the one with the vulnerability). They can’t take both along with test of faith and procession of blades.

The pull isn’t instacast. The spear has a cast time. The pull is not unblockable, but the spear is.

DH is not too strong, traps can easily avoided… serious. THX

im just gonna laugh here at all these players that refuse to adapt.

If you refuse to listen to advice, just create a DH in pvp. Play around with it for a day and you will quickly see its weaknesses. Surprise surprise you will find that you can fight them much better now.

The amount of DH players defending it on the forums grows by the day.

glaphen.5230:

The amount of DH players defending it on the forums grows by the day.

What do expect when QQ’ers create multiple threads or the same thing in other people’s threads?\

If someone makes a whining post about ANY class it really shouldnt surprise you to find people defending it. Especially the ones whose main toon is that class.

I think we can at least agree that DH’s are everywhere though

terrorshard.3854:

I think we can at least agree that DH’s are everywhere though

More fresh meat to practice on.

terrorshard.3854:

I think we can at least agree that DH’s are everywhere though

Its interesting you say that but ive played a fair number of games in the last few days and in about one third of the games i was the only guardian in the match. In the others it was one other guardian (DH of course) on the other team. (so 2 players out of 10)

So unless matchmaking is really messing up for me im not seeing this “DH’s are everywhere” that you mention.

Admitedly i didnt play a big enough number of games to be statistically significant but still.

They are def everywhere. a lot of that might be because people say it is OP and easy, which gravitates even more people to jump on it and start rolling around in unranked.

Spartacus.3192:

terrorshard.3854:

I think we can at least agree that DH’s are everywhere though

Its interesting you say that but ive played a fair number of games in the last few days and in about one third of the games i was the only guardian in the match. In the others it was one other guardian (DH of course) on the other team. (so 2 players out of 10)

So unless matchmaking is really messing up for me im not seeing this “DH’s are everywhere” that you mention.

Admitedly i didnt play a big enough number of games to be statistically significant but still.

I still usually get 2-3 DH per game in high MMR.

glaphen.5230:

Spartacus.3192:

terrorshard.3854:

I think we can at least agree that DH’s are everywhere though

Its interesting you say that but ive played a fair number of games in the last few days and in about one third of the games i was the only guardian in the match. In the others it was one other guardian (DH of course) on the other team. (so 2 players out of 10)

So unless matchmaking is really messing up for me im not seeing this “DH’s are everywhere” that you mention.

Admitedly i didnt play a big enough number of games to be statistically significant but still.

I still usually get 2-3 DH per game in high MMR.

How exactly are we quantifying/defining “high MMR”?

Salamander.2504:

glaphen.5230:

Spartacus.3192:

terrorshard.3854:

I think we can at least agree that DH’s are everywhere though

Its interesting you say that but ive played a fair number of games in the last few days and in about one third of the games i was the only guardian in the match. In the others it was one other guardian (DH of course) on the other team. (so 2 players out of 10)

So unless matchmaking is really messing up for me im not seeing this “DH’s are everywhere” that you mention.

Admitedly i didnt play a big enough number of games to be statistically significant but still.

I still usually get 2-3 DH per game in high MMR.

How exactly are we quantifying “high MMR”?

Getting in games with constant premades and top players of old solo queue like before.

Mitch.4781:

Seriosuly..They make MUCH better trap rangers than ranger. It’s ridiculous. I literally could not kill them tonight on my own trap ranger…They have extremely powerful traps, including an ELITE trap that rangers don’t even have and then they have all the usual blocks and buffs a guardian brings.

It’s ridiculously op in pvp. Either buff the other classes or tone down the strength of their traps and lb.

DH is an elite class, ranger is not. Pretty simple logic, no?

rchu.8945:

Mitch.4781:

Seriosuly..They make MUCH better trap rangers than ranger. It’s ridiculous. I literally could not kill them tonight on my own trap ranger…They have extremely powerful traps, including an ELITE trap that rangers don’t even have and then they have all the usual blocks and buffs a guardian brings.

It’s ridiculously op in pvp. Either buff the other classes or tone down the strength of their traps and lb.

DH is an elite class, ranger is not. Pretty simple logic, no?

And the fact that you find that to be simple logic shows how ANet has failed to make them side grades.

logan.5846:

You mean an elite spec is better than a generic one? No way! Druids heal better than Guardians, nerf Druids plz!

You do realize that you just made the point that certain elite specs need to be nerfed right? Colin J has stated that elite specs should be an alternative to the other trait lines, not stronger than the other trait lines. You are essentially arguing that DH needs to be nerfed even if you don’t realize what you did. Be careful.

I see the quality of the “nerf DH” threads has gone down considerably in the last day or so…

Couple of ironic things…

1. The guardians saying that it’s a bad spec that dies easily are the sames ones playing DH.

2. I would agree that DH can be dealt with in a duel situation once you know you what you are facing, but the problem lies in synergy with another DH or lockdown class that makes the damage unavoidable. Plus, the point capture nature of PvP is also something that makes AOE type damage something that can’t be too big or else it becomes way too OP.

You are starting to see tons of double DHs teaming up and instantly gibbing people in everything from hotjoins, to WvW and sPvP to exploit the synergy.

They nerfed Blighter’s Boon immediately due to even less oppressive synergy with Herald, so I would expect a similar nerf soon.

Overall though, I wouldn’t get on Anet too much about it, since it’s still early after release and synergy exploits are understandably something that could have been missed. I’m fairly confident they will address this soon because it’s fairly obvious to everyone at this point.

Cooldowns probably need a much needed look because you can’t allow almost 100% lockdown/deaths to happen very often if you want people (especially new players) to keep playing.

“You must defeat my dragon punch to stand a chance”

“A defeat learned from is more important then an empty victory”

“As iron sharpens Iron…so does one person sharpen another”

-Ryu from Street Fighter.

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When they put down DH it will become obvious how broken Reaper and Scrapper are. After that Chrono and Druid will get hit.

Mitch.4781:

One word for you:

Dodge.

If you still can’t figure it out – Arken has a video you should watch.

Regular traps arent the issue….good players will counter them with dodges leaps etc. The things that setup wombocombos combined with the traps are.:

Like longbow 5 for example. Relatively hard to spot during a clusterkitten teamfight. Makes it really easy to setup a really hardhitting wombocombo if followed up by some traps .

Kuya.6495:

Yasha.5963:

Mitch.4781:

Seriosuly..They make MUCH better trap rangers than ranger. It’s ridiculous. I literally could not kill them tonight on my own trap ranger…They have extremely powerful traps, including an ELITE trap that rangers don’t even have and then they have all the usual blocks and buffs a guardian brings.

It’s ridiculously op in pvp. Either buff the other classes or tone down the strength of their traps and lb.

Have you read the details of the DH skills (traps, traits, and bow)? It is kind of unbelievable. It is like taking a trapper ranger and then removing all the downside for taking traps and adding so many extra buffs, that most players wouldn’t even have had the nerve to ask for or imagine.

Apart from damage that can take even my ranger equipped with rabid and under protection from 100-0 before I get a chance to react, 2 of the traps are instant cast, one breaks stun (wtf right! trap ranger ‘s dream), and the traps apply the following: daze, stability, blind, swiftness, vulnerability, revealed, protection, fury, slow, aegis, cripple, might. The heal trap can also be “double cast” like normal traps, unlike the rangers heal trap (ranger version doesn’t trigger a heal if not used straight away), for massive burst healing.

But the traps being totally OP compared to ranger traps is just the beginning. They also get a 1200 range instant cast unblockable pull, a trait that auto procs knock back every 10 secs on any bow skill or auto attack, which also gives 6 SECONDS of STABILITY – ie 60% stability uptime, and the bow skills themselves are none too shabby.

That’s cool bro, but in order to get all those benefits you are propping up, you need to equip all 5 traps, which most DH don’t do, because the sustain is too low.

Try not to exaggerate to make your point next time.

PS: they can’t actually equip all the traps. They will either choose between the stunbreaker trap (the one with the aegis and stability) or the reveal trap (the one with the vulnerability). They can’t take both along with test of faith and procession of blades.

The pull isn’t instacast. The spear has a cast time. The pull is not unblockable, but the spear is.

Oh my, terribly sorry for such a huge exaggeration “bro”. Yes its true, DH has to choose between the stunbreak trap that gives aegis and stability and does lots of damage or one other trap that does damage and applies other effects. What a predicament!

The tooltip for spear says its unblockable, and it has a very clear cast animation easily discernible from up to 1200 distance with its .25 sec cast time that gives players ample time to time a dodge before getting pulled into the ring of near instant death.

Yasha.5963:

Kuya.6495:

Yasha.5963:

Mitch.4781:

Seriosuly..They make MUCH better trap rangers than ranger. It’s ridiculous. I literally could not kill them tonight on my own trap ranger…They have extremely powerful traps, including an ELITE trap that rangers don’t even have and then they have all the usual blocks and buffs a guardian brings.

It’s ridiculously op in pvp. Either buff the other classes or tone down the strength of their traps and lb.

Have you read the details of the DH skills (traps, traits, and bow)? It is kind of unbelievable. It is like taking a trapper ranger and then removing all the downside for taking traps and adding so many extra buffs, that most players wouldn’t even have had the nerve to ask for or imagine.

Apart from damage that can take even my ranger equipped with rabid and under protection from 100-0 before I get a chance to react, 2 of the traps are instant cast, one breaks stun (wtf right! trap ranger ‘s dream), and the traps apply the following: daze, stability, blind, swiftness, vulnerability, revealed, protection, fury, slow, aegis, cripple, might. The heal trap can also be “double cast” like normal traps, unlike the rangers heal trap (ranger version doesn’t trigger a heal if not used straight away), for massive burst healing.

But the traps being totally OP compared to ranger traps is just the beginning. They also get a 1200 range instant cast unblockable pull, a trait that auto procs knock back every 10 secs on any bow skill or auto attack, which also gives 6 SECONDS of STABILITY – ie 60% stability uptime, and the bow skills themselves are none too shabby.

That’s cool bro, but in order to get all those benefits you are propping up, you need to equip all 5 traps, which most DH don’t do, because the sustain is too low.

Try not to exaggerate to make your point next time.

PS: they can’t actually equip all the traps. They will either choose between the stunbreaker trap (the one with the aegis and stability) or the reveal trap (the one with the vulnerability). They can’t take both along with test of faith and procession of blades.

The pull isn’t instacast. The spear has a cast time. The pull is not unblockable, but the spear is.

Oh my, terribly sorry for such a huge exaggeration “bro”. Yes its true, DH has to choose between the stunbreak trap that gives aegis and stability and does lots of damage or one other trap that does damage and applies other effects. What a predicament!

The tooltip for spear says its unblockable, and it has a very clear cast animation easily discernible from up to 1200 distance with its .25 sec cast time that gives players ample time to time a dodge before getting pulled into the ring of near instant death.

Fragment of Faith deals barely any damage at all…

Farzo.8410:

Yasha.5963:

Kuya.6495:

Yasha.5963:

Mitch.4781:

Seriosuly..They make MUCH better trap rangers than ranger. It’s ridiculous. I literally could not kill them tonight on my own trap ranger…They have extremely powerful traps, including an ELITE trap that rangers don’t even have and then they have all the usual blocks and buffs a guardian brings.

It’s ridiculously op in pvp. Either buff the other classes or tone down the strength of their traps and lb.

Have you read the details of the DH skills (traps, traits, and bow)? It is kind of unbelievable. It is like taking a trapper ranger and then removing all the downside for taking traps and adding so many extra buffs, that most players wouldn’t even have had the nerve to ask for or imagine.

Apart from damage that can take even my ranger equipped with rabid and under protection from 100-0 before I get a chance to react, 2 of the traps are instant cast, one breaks stun (wtf right! trap ranger ‘s dream), and the traps apply the following: daze, stability, blind, swiftness, vulnerability, revealed, protection, fury, slow, aegis, cripple, might. The heal trap can also be “double cast” like normal traps, unlike the rangers heal trap (ranger version doesn’t trigger a heal if not used straight away), for massive burst healing.

But the traps being totally OP compared to ranger traps is just the beginning. They also get a 1200 range instant cast unblockable pull, a trait that auto procs knock back every 10 secs on any bow skill or auto attack, which also gives 6 SECONDS of STABILITY – ie 60% stability uptime, and the bow skills themselves are none too shabby.

That’s cool bro, but in order to get all those benefits you are propping up, you need to equip all 5 traps, which most DH don’t do, because the sustain is too low.

Try not to exaggerate to make your point next time.

PS: they can’t actually equip all the traps. They will either choose between the stunbreaker trap (the one with the aegis and stability) or the reveal trap (the one with the vulnerability). They can’t take both along with test of faith and procession of blades.

The pull isn’t instacast. The spear has a cast time. The pull is not unblockable, but the spear is.

Oh my, terribly sorry for such a huge exaggeration “bro”. Yes its true, DH has to choose between the stunbreak trap that gives aegis and stability and does lots of damage or one other trap that does damage and applies other effects. What a predicament!

The tooltip for spear says its unblockable, and it has a very clear cast animation easily discernible from up to 1200 distance with its .25 sec cast time that gives players ample time to time a dodge before getting pulled into the ring of near instant death.

Fragment of Faith deals barely any damage at all…

Instant cast, applies daze, stability, crippled, aegis, breaks stun, lasts 10 secs, and does 399 damage base. Not much damage at all would be Light’s Judgement which only does 50 damage, applies daze, revealed, 10 stacks vulnerable, swiftness.

logan.5846:

uhohhotdog.3598:

logan.5846:

You mean an elite spec is better than a generic one? No way! Druids heal better than Guardians, nerf Druids plz!

If only Rangers had a pet to set off the traps. Why would you even be close enough anyways? Ranger longbow has a longer range than DH, send in pet, stay out of range, rapid fire, pew pew. Easy peasy.

Seriously, what is it with Rangers and bad players? It seems like half the complaining on this board is from Rangers.

Elites are not meant to be better. It’s elite because you only get one. Like you get one elite skill. For the future when there’s more elite specs. Stop this nonsense kids.

Well, they are. Druid heals are better than Guardian heals, Scrapper hammer is better than Guardian hammer, Reaper greatsword is better than Guardian GS, Herald buffs are better than Guardian buffs, etc.

Yet the class that overwhelmingly whines that they don’t have the best of absolutely everything are Rangers. I’d wager nearly every DH in the game would happily trade traps for Rapid Fire alone.

Whether they are stronger or not doesn’t matter to the fact that elites are not purposely designed to be stronger than other specs.

Is it DH that’s too strong, or the combination of instant cast traps with stealth + super speed from trapper runes? Without the stealth spam from trapper runes, DH is an easy target. However, DH is unkillable while in stealth + has the superspeed to get out of AOEs while stealthed. Trapper runes need to go. They allow trap spam with zero risk.

Kharr.5746:

Is it DH that’s too strong, or the combination of instant cast traps with stealth + super speed from trapper runes? Without the stealth spam from trapper runes, DH is an easy target. However, DH is unkillable while in stealth + has the superspeed to get out of AOEs while stealthed. Trapper runes need to go. They allow trap spam with zero risk.

the thing is some traps have obscene damage ontop of being unblockable to such levels were you can instantly melt a full bunker player with nothing but traps

and runes also bring up another problem while trapper runes make it extremely easy for guards to be safe while being on the offense , runes of the dragonhunter offer 5 stacks of might for each trap Placed so that allows guard to gain an instant 20-25 stacks of might

and ontop of that traps have debuffs and conditions when activated and as if that wasnt enough traps grant fury aegis protection 10 might stacks swiftness and regen

Yasha.5963:

Farzo.8410:

Yasha.5963:

Kuya.6495:

Yasha.5963:

Mitch.4781:

Seriosuly..They make MUCH better trap rangers than ranger. It’s ridiculous. I literally could not kill them tonight on my own trap ranger…They have extremely powerful traps, including an ELITE trap that rangers don’t even have and then they have all the usual blocks and buffs a guardian brings.

It’s ridiculously op in pvp. Either buff the other classes or tone down the strength of their traps and lb.

Have you read the details of the DH skills (traps, traits, and bow)? It is kind of unbelievable. It is like taking a trapper ranger and then removing all the downside for taking traps and adding so many extra buffs, that most players wouldn’t even have had the nerve to ask for or imagine.

Apart from damage that can take even my ranger equipped with rabid and under protection from 100-0 before I get a chance to react, 2 of the traps are instant cast, one breaks stun (wtf right! trap ranger ‘s dream), and the traps apply the following: daze, stability, blind, swiftness, vulnerability, revealed, protection, fury, slow, aegis, cripple, might. The heal trap can also be “double cast” like normal traps, unlike the rangers heal trap (ranger version doesn’t trigger a heal if not used straight away), for massive burst healing.

But the traps being totally OP compared to ranger traps is just the beginning. They also get a 1200 range instant cast unblockable pull, a trait that auto procs knock back every 10 secs on any bow skill or auto attack, which also gives 6 SECONDS of STABILITY – ie 60% stability uptime, and the bow skills themselves are none too shabby.

That’s cool bro, but in order to get all those benefits you are propping up, you need to equip all 5 traps, which most DH don’t do, because the sustain is too low.

Try not to exaggerate to make your point next time.

PS: they can’t actually equip all the traps. They will either choose between the stunbreaker trap (the one with the aegis and stability) or the reveal trap (the one with the vulnerability). They can’t take both along with test of faith and procession of blades.

The pull isn’t instacast. The spear has a cast time. The pull is not unblockable, but the spear is.

Oh my, terribly sorry for such a huge exaggeration “bro”. Yes its true, DH has to choose between the stunbreak trap that gives aegis and stability and does lots of damage or one other trap that does damage and applies other effects. What a predicament!

The tooltip for spear says its unblockable, and it has a very clear cast animation easily discernible from up to 1200 distance with its .25 sec cast time that gives players ample time to time a dodge before getting pulled into the ring of near instant death.

Fragment of Faith deals barely any damage at all…

Instant cast, applies daze, stability, crippled, aegis, breaks stun, lasts 10 secs, and does 399 damage base. Not much damage at all would be Light’s Judgement which only does 50 damage, applies daze, revealed, 10 stacks vulnerable, swiftness.

Your definition of “lots of damage” is astounding and perhaps, very telling.

Rezzet.3614:

Kharr.5746:

Is it DH that’s too strong, or the combination of instant cast traps with stealth + super speed from trapper runes? Without the stealth spam from trapper runes, DH is an easy target. However, DH is unkillable while in stealth + has the superspeed to get out of AOEs while stealthed. Trapper runes need to go. They allow trap spam with zero risk.

the thing is some traps have obscene damage ontop of being unblockable to such levels were you can instantly melt a full bunker player with nothing but traps

Oh that is just “sci-fi”, traps don’t do lots of damage, you can’t get 100-0ed by a DH, its an elite spec so has to be good- it can’t just be like normal ranger traps or something, just dodge, L2P, the other elite specs are more powerful, Guard has to give up so much to take traps … did I miss anything?

Avoiding traps

Amins.3710:

Mitch.4781:

One word for you:

Dodge.

If you still can’t figure it out – Arken has a video you should watch.

You get 2 dodges and and an endurance bar. This means that you cannot dodge every assault that comes your way. If you didn’t know this, check out Arkens video.

Mitch.4781:

Amins.3710:

Mitch.4781:

One word for you:

Dodge.

If you still can’t figure it out – Arken has a video you should watch.

You get 2 dodges and and an endurance bar. This means that you cannot dodge every assault that comes your way. If you didn’t know this, check out Arkens video.

Not everyone plays a thief or a ranger with infinite evades.

Ezrael.6859:

Avoiding traps

You should post videos of spvp. The gear differences, teamplay, objectives, and map size make WvW not a particularly relevant way to show off how to beat DH.

What I would like to see is how to deal with a guard that teleports onto you and trap dumps, or pulls you onto traps (in spvp). This is because in those situations for some reason I can neither dodge out of or stunbreak to get clear of the traps.