Guild Wars 2

Just wondering what is the DH ability that looks like a leash comes out toward you and then pulls you into them?

I read the abilities on the internet but the only thing I could find was “Dragon’s Maw” which only pulls in a 180 range. This pull seems like maybe up to 900 range, looks like a black chain or something comes out of guard towards you.

Their leash is their f1 virtue active ability.

Is that the pull or just the leash that does condition damage?

Its just the leash that does damage. I believe the pull came from another skill, most likely gs 5

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

choovanski.5462:

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

Seriously? It doesn’t say that in the skill descriptions.

A 1200 range unblockable pull on a class that that one shot even high toughness builds? Sounds good, I guess I better buy HoT.

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

Seriously? It doesn’t say that in the skill descriptions.

A 1200 range unblockable pull on a class that that one shot even high toughness builds? Sounds good, I guess I better buy HoT.

engi has a 1200 range unlockable pull. it’s nothing new.

if you’re getting 1shot by DH then you have bigger problems than not owning HoT.

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

Seriously? It doesn’t say that in the skill descriptions.

A 1200 range unblockable pull on a class that that one shot even high toughness builds? Sounds good, I guess I better buy HoT.

Now you talking sci fi. You cant oneshot high toughness builds. Pull have high CD. Buy HoT.

Ragnarox.9601:

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

Seriously? It doesn’t say that in the skill descriptions.

A 1200 range unblockable pull on a class that that one shot even high toughness builds? Sounds good, I guess I better buy HoT.

Now you talking sci fi. You cant oneshot high toughness builds. Pull have high CD. Buy HoT.

I have been blown up several times on Ranger running rabid amulet. If DH traps are traited for daze you can’t stun break to heal, you just die.

choovanski.5462:

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

Seriously? It doesn’t say that in the skill descriptions.

A 1200 range unblockable pull on a class that that one shot even high toughness builds? Sounds good, I guess I better buy HoT.

engi has a 1200 range unlockable pull. it’s nothing new.

if you’re getting 1shot by DH then you have bigger problems than not owning HoT.

Yes and when engi was able to go stealth pull and then do the “100 nades” they got nerfed because it was one shotting people everywhere. Nor can they pull you into traps that auto daze making it impossible to react.

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

Seriously? It doesn’t say that in the skill descriptions.

A 1200 range unblockable pull on a class that that one shot even high toughness builds? Sounds good, I guess I better buy HoT.

engi has a 1200 range unlockable pull. it’s nothing new.

if you’re getting 1shot by DH then you have bigger problems than not owning HoT.

Yes and when engi was able to go stealth pull and then do the “100 nades” they got nerfed because it was one shotting people everywhere. Nor can they pull you into traps that auto daze making it impossible to react.

it’s not impossible to react.

Note: I don’t particularly want DH nerfed, I am just upset that the DH trap build is so much better than Ranger trapper.

Like today for example a DH just ran up on to all my traps (without dodging or anything, he just ate it all but was relatively fine afterwards), I had moved to range so I set my dogs on to him to trigger his traps then suddenly I get chained into his full trap set up (two DH traps are instant cast lol), and I am dead- running rabid, from full health.

DH is like the ultimate, most awesome, the dream trap build. I guess I just have trap envy.

choovanski.5462:

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

Seriously? It doesn’t say that in the skill descriptions.

A 1200 range unblockable pull on a class that that one shot even high toughness builds? Sounds good, I guess I better buy HoT.

engi has a 1200 range unlockable pull. it’s nothing new.

if you’re getting 1shot by DH then you have bigger problems than not owning HoT.

Yes and when engi was able to go stealth pull and then do the “100 nades” they got nerfed because it was one shotting people everywhere. Nor can they pull you into traps that auto daze making it impossible to react.

it’s not impossible to react.

When I get caught in a DH trap, I can’t dodge, or use any skills. Even if I use a stun break I seem to get dazed again immediately. That could be because the DH lays down another trap which triggers a second daze, not sure.

It is therefore impossible to react.

Note: I am not sure why I can’t dodge, since I should be able to- maybe that is an effect from Dragon’s maw?

Ragnarox.9601:

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

Seriously? It doesn’t say that in the skill descriptions.

A 1200 range unblockable pull on a class that that one shot even high toughness builds? Sounds good, I guess I better buy HoT.

Now you talking sci fi. You cant oneshot high toughness builds. Pull have high CD. Buy HoT.

Just wanted to note that Justice (the pull) has a 17.5 second CD when traited which is pretty short considering the synergy with the rest of DH abilities.

Also not only was I running rabid (high toughness) and at full health, but I had protection (-33% damage) from a ranger trait. Yet I have still been blown up (100-0) several times.

Yasha.5963:

Ragnarox.9601:

Yasha.5963:

choovanski.5462:

it’s f1 to leash, and f1 again to pull the leashed person. very similar to GS5

Seriously? It doesn’t say that in the skill descriptions.

A 1200 range unblockable pull on a class that that one shot even high toughness builds? Sounds good, I guess I better buy HoT.

Now you talking sci fi. You cant oneshot high toughness builds. Pull have high CD. Buy HoT.

Just wanted to note that Justice (the pull) has a 17.5 second CD when traited which is pretty short considering the synergy with the rest of DH abilities.

Also not only was I running rabid (high toughness) and at full health, but I had protection (-33% damage) from a ranger trait. Yet I have still been blown up (100-0) several times.

Justice have 17.5 cd, pull have 45sec cd.

As above. The Initialy HOOK has a 17.5 CD when TRAITED. The PULL however is 45 CD. No matter what, a DH cannot simply Hook AND Pull you every engagement. If you DO get Hooked, the Hook duration is rather short (it is much shorter than the GS #5 duration). Stability will deny the Pull.

Guardian finally has a way to engage targets and punish them for simply walking away from him so easily (as is always done against core game Guard). Let’s not QQ it right out of existence before two full weeks even pass.

EDIT: And NO…Guardian/DH CANNOT simply “one-shot” a high toughness target. Can they burst them fairly low if they land every burst skill and use all their damage utilities? Yes. Every class can if they use EVERYTHING at their disposal on one target, and not a single attack is evaded/negated.

Exemplar.1479:

As above. The Initialy HOOK has a 17.5 CD when TRAITED. The PULL however is 45 CD. No matter what, a DH cannot simply Hook AND Pull you every engagement. If you DO get Hooked, the Hook duration is rather short (it is much shorter than the GS #5 duration). Stability will deny the Pull.

Guardian finally has a way to engage targets and punish them for simply walking away from him so easily (as is always done against core game Guard). Let’s not QQ it right out of existence before two full weeks even pass.

EDIT: And NO…Guardian/DH CANNOT simply “one-shot” a high toughness target. Can they burst them fairly low if they land every burst skill and use all their damage utilities? Yes. Every class can if they use EVERYTHING at their disposal on one target, and not a single attack is evaded/negated.

Good to know the CD on the pull (ty @Ragnorox as well for that).

I don’t want to QQ it “out of existence”, but it is clearly much, much more powerful than a trapper ranger. You don’t even see many guards who are not running DH these days. In fact, guard is one of my favourite classes to play, but DH just seems so much more powerful than even my burn guard that I don’t get the urge to play guard.

Look, a couple of you keep saying that a DH can’t “one-shot” a high toughness target, but my ranger runs rabid and has pretty high protection uptime and yet this thing can 100-1 me before I get a chance to react. Its happened several times and I have seen it done to other players as well. If I was running something with no toughness I could understand it.

There is no use just denying it and saying “it doesn’t happen”, or its “sci-fi”, or making some random insulting comment. I get hit by an unblockable instant cast pull with a longer range than any weapon I am using (even though I have a bow) into an instant death trap. Its all the more infuriating because the ranger traps do bugger all in comparison.

Exemplar.1479:

Every class can if they use EVERYTHING at their disposal on one target, and not a single attack is evaded/negated.

Yeah, given some time (kappa)

Yasha.5963:

Exemplar.1479:

Look, a couple of you keep saying that a DH can’t “one-shot” a high toughness target, but my ranger runs rabid and has pretty high protection uptime and yet this thing can 100-1 me before I get a chance to react. Its happened several times and I have seen it done to other players as well. If I was running something with no toughness I could understand it.

Try runnig the “Signet of Stone” and pop it up if you get caught in them evil DH traps

Ski Cask.1457:

Yasha.5963:

Exemplar.1479:

Look, a couple of you keep saying that a DH can’t “one-shot” a high toughness target, but my ranger runs rabid and has pretty high protection uptime and yet this thing can 100-1 me before I get a chance to react. Its happened several times and I have seen it done to other players as well. If I was running something with no toughness I could understand it.

Try runnig the “Signet of Stone” and pop it up if you get caught in them evil DH traps

I don’t particularly want to kitten about DH, because I don’t think its the most OP build in the game. Its just that because I often play a trapper ranger, the sheer brilliance of the DH set up is almost painful to watch.

Like earlier today I had the perfect set up, goaded the guy onto my traps, had range, doggies were going in to disarm his traps, all my offensive cds were up, and then bam out of nowhere leash pulled and 100-0ed. If only my ranger traps and utilities could do that.