Guild Wars 2

Hello
I would like to hit Legendary, but I do not own HoT. What are my options in terms of builds?

So far, I found only this one:
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Vanilla_Condi_Necro

Kruzak.3076:

Hello
I would like to hit Legendary, but I do not own HoT. What are my options in terms of builds?

So far, I found only this one:
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Vanilla_Condi_Necro

It’s the build leet0 and bunch of other people used to “prove” there is no “MMR hell” by making free to play accounts and playing this precise build.

EDIT: I think the before-hot D/P thief with shadow arts is still viable, soemwhat. But it does require good mechanical skill to be successful. Shadow arts really does help to +1 with a sudden backstab spike

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATRnUqA1CiNsA+sActgBGhiD3vNA6xdDyg/JKhU/ij9kC-TpRBABA8AACa/h4LD8wFAgvDBAHHBAA

I also do not have HoT and i got to diamond (last season as well) with the build. I can probably hit legend if i play more.

Also metabattle is a terrible place to look for non hot facerole builds that play themselves. There are allot of perfectly functional HoT and core builds that, although not meta, can still work well enough to win games and not be a liability.
Metabattle mostly post builds that show up in tournaments and pople fail to realize that some of them are not very good in solo queue with randoms that do not rotate properly or support you.

Ravenmoon.5318:

Kruzak.3076:

Hello
I would like to hit Legendary, but I do not own HoT. What are my options in terms of builds?

So far, I found only this one:
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Vanilla_Condi_Necro

It’s the build leet0 and bunch of other people used to “prove” there is no “MMR hell” by making free to play accounts and playing this precise build.

EDIT: I think the before-hot D/P thief with shadow arts is still viable, soemwhat. But it does require good mechanical skill to be successful. Shadow arts really does help to +1 with a sudden backstab spike

The problem is, I do not have Necro nor character slot for him.
At the moment, I can choose from Warrior, Guardian, Elementalist, Engineer and Thief.

foste.3098:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATRnUqA1CiNsA+sActgBGhiD3vNA6xdDyg/JKhU/ij9kC-TpRBABA8AACa/h4LD8wFAgvDBAHHBAA

I also do not have HoT and i got to diamond (last season as well) with the build. I can probably hit legend if i play more.

Also metabattle is a terrible place to look for non hot facerole builds that play themselves. There are allot of perfectly functional HoT and core builds that, although not meta, can still work well enough to win games and not be a liability.
Metabattle mostly post builds that show up in tournaments and pople fail to realize that some of them are not very good in solo queue with randoms that do not rotate properly or support you.

no they’re pretty much all god mode in soloq. if you can’t carry with these builds (the meta ones, not really “great” ones) then you’re basically just bad at the game.

Kruzak.3076:

Ravenmoon.5318:

Kruzak.3076:

Hello
I would like to hit Legendary, but I do not own HoT. What are my options in terms of builds?

So far, I found only this one:
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Vanilla_Condi_Necro

It’s the build leet0 and bunch of other people used to “prove” there is no “MMR hell” by making free to play accounts and playing this precise build.

EDIT: I think the before-hot D/P thief with shadow arts is still viable, soemwhat. But it does require good mechanical skill to be successful. Shadow arts really does help to +1 with a sudden backstab spike

The problem is, I do not have Necro nor character slot for him.
At the moment, I can choose from Warrior, Guardian, Elementalist, Engineer and Thief.

Well copy this build http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Daredevil_-_Dagger/Pistol

but instead of Daredevil go for Shadow Arts, with a basilisk venom elite
Withdraw for a heal
Shadow Step
Shadow Refuge (the extended stealth will give oyu regen and heals and passive protection)
and depending on how u feel Signet of agility or signet of infiltration (for yet another shadow step to enemy, you acn teleport to over 2000-2500 range with well placed shadow step/infiltration/steal combination)

As for SA traits I’d go for the following

Shadow’s Embrace – To cancel condis in stealth, but you can go for Last Refuge if there are no necros/mesmers on the enemy team (highly unlikely)

Hidden Thief – To stealth you each time you use Steal which then in turns allows you to spike with a backstab everytime you steal

Shadow’s Rejuvenation – For HP regen while in stealth

P.S: With this build you auto stealth yourself when you begin ressurecting so you can ninja res someone that is left to bleed out. Or you can shadow refuge them to prevent stomp and resurrect “safely”. (the refuge is usually very spiked)

And I repeat, this build is good BUT you need to be very good mechanically to play it well. Never go for 1v1 with it. +1 fights, decap unprotected points, steal mobs in Niflhel and generally avoid places where you are getting focused. compared to other thieves you lack a lot of overpowered traits from the daredevil traitline but you get some “sustain” out of all this.

If things don’t go well and you can 2-3 shot a target, try going apekitten crazy and put on berserker amulet.

P.P.S: You can experiment and go with Improvisation in deadly arts grandmaster traitline and flanking strikes in trickery for some passive quickness procs to help you autoattack a little faster when you land a backstab or a sidestab. Thrill of the crime is very team oriented … not being a DD I don’t think you’ll be surviving much in teamfights.

Warrior works fine without berzerker. And its kittened annyway XD.

What about D/D Ele? I have read somewhere (on reddit I think) that it works well if you know the rotation.