Guild Wars 2

Is there a way to make an arena for ranks 1-20. Even if they are broke down like…
r1-10
r11-20

Something like that. You get the picture.
That way people of lower ranks can actually not be turn off if they are being romper stomped by better players. Seems like a lot of lower rank people complain of this. Just an idea. Have y’all thought about even trying this?

I know in Gw1 there were arenas for lower ranks. I know they didn’t last. But at some point early on in the game there were filled with people. We use to actually carry on low rank tournys in the Ascalon Arena. Good times.

I think it’s a great idea tbh. MMR is ok, but this game is really missing a way for new players to get their feet wet.

I think there was some dev words about creating leagues, which might have a similar effect.

That could be interesting. I just think that the really new people sometimes get discouraged when they are out skilled.

but what about if I am low rank but I can play better than many rank 60+? I am stuck with low rank scrubs? rank means anything nowadays.

Kolly.9872:

but what about if I am low rank but I can play better than many rank 60+? I am stuck with low rank scrubs? rank means anything nowadays.

That would make you a prodigy and you should be playing on one of these pro ‘e-sports’ teams…blowing us all away with your God giving gift of Epicnes. Who r u?

What if I bought an EU account but am stuck against low ranks as a r40 solo queue player NA?

yeah, or sometimes wvw players doing spvp for the first time can be decent. I think a league system, maybe two or three tiers, seems good for that. noobs, regular pvpers, and a pro tier… something like that. Might be useful for collecting data on what classes are played at what skill levels.

Sure would be nice if the Dev’s would chime in.

If they split pvp more, then you would have 15+ minutes queues. Even now it sometimes takes up to 10 minutes, which is too long for a lot of players and they rather play hotjoin where there is no waiting. Long queues would result in more 4v5 scenarios which would end up in people abandoning tournaments/pvp anyway.

fugazi.5139:

Kolly.9872:

but what about if I am low rank but I can play better than many rank 60+? I am stuck with low rank scrubs? rank means anything nowadays.

That would make you a prodigy and you should be playing on one of these pro ‘e-sports’ teams…blowing us all away with your God giving gift of Epicnes. Who r u?

that’s exactly the reason why I play with rank 60+ in my team and they prefer me over all those 60+ skyhammer farmers
but on topic I realy don’t care about soloQ but I still don’t like to split soloQ in different tiers based on ranks because rank still means nothing at all.

First let’s reset all ranks and second give back proper rank to people based only on tournament experience, after that maybe we can start making tiers for soloQ

Dhunis.9072:

If they split pvp more, then you would have 15+ minutes queues. Even now it sometimes takes up to 10 minutes, which is too long for a lot of players and they rather play hotjoin where there is no waiting. Long queues would result in more 4v5 scenarios which would end up in people abandoning tournaments/pvp anyway.

THIS. There are so few people playing pvp already that waiting for a full team of people within your rank bracket would be crippling and probably scare off many people from playing. I know hotjoin isn’t amazing, but neither is solo que, and for God’s sake sometimes it’s just fun to have hotjoin lols with a coffee in hand being able to alt-tab back and forth to check forums

why is that so bad?

Kolly.9872:

fugazi.5139:

Kolly.9872:

but what about if I am low rank but I can play better than many rank 60+? I am stuck with low rank scrubs? rank means anything nowadays.

That would make you a prodigy and you should be playing on one of these pro ‘e-sports’ teams…blowing us all away with your God giving gift of Epicnes. Who r u?

that’s exactly the reason why I play with rank 60+ in my team and they prefer me over all those 60+ skyhammer farmers
but on topic I realy don’t care about soloQ but I still don’t like to split soloQ in different tiers based on ranks because rank still means nothing at all.

First let’s reset all ranks and second give back proper rank to people based only on tournament experience, after that maybe we can start making tiers for soloQ

I agree to a point. I’m talking more on the lower rank. Like less than rank 20 or 15. Just enough time to get people fully rounded in some sense. Of course spliting the ranks in anything higher would just be a disaster.

Might I ask you, What rank are you?

azuzephyr.7280:

Dhunis.9072:

If they split pvp more, then you would have 15+ minutes queues. Even now it sometimes takes up to 10 minutes, which is too long for a lot of players and they rather play hotjoin where there is no waiting. Long queues would result in more 4v5 scenarios which would end up in people abandoning tournaments/pvp anyway.

THIS. There are so few people playing pvp already that waiting for a full team of people within your rank bracket would be crippling and probably scare off many people from playing. I know hotjoin isn’t amazing, but neither is solo que, and for God’s sake sometimes it’s just fun to have hotjoin lols with a coffee in hand being able to alt-tab back and forth to check forums

why is that so bad?

Lol. I don’t think it would make the ques longer. It would maybe balance them out more.

fugazi.5139:

Kolly.9872:

fugazi.5139:

Kolly.9872:

but what about if I am low rank but I can play better than many rank 60+? I am stuck with low rank scrubs? rank means anything nowadays.

That would make you a prodigy and you should be playing on one of these pro ‘e-sports’ teams…blowing us all away with your God giving gift of Epicnes. Who r u?

that’s exactly the reason why I play with rank 60+ in my team and they prefer me over all those 60+ skyhammer farmers
but on topic I realy don’t care about soloQ but I still don’t like to split soloQ in different tiers based on ranks because rank still means nothing at all.

First let’s reset all ranks and second give back proper rank to people based only on tournament experience, after that maybe we can start making tiers for soloQ

I agree to a point. I’m talking more on the lower rank. Like less than rank 20 or 15. Just enough time to get people fully rounded in some sense. Of course spliting the ranks in anything higher would just be a disaster.

Might I ask you, What rank are you?

rank 32, I think I have been in 10 hotjoin match since I started to play tho, I don’t want to be forced to play with other rank 30 that farmed their way to 30 doing hotjoin all the day long. But I would realy like if ranks would mean anything in this game, the only thing to do now is to reset ranks and re-assign ranks based on the real team\soloQ experience. I want to see a real rank 60+ and say “crap, this dude have realy spent his life doing pvp”, right now I laugh at many ranks 60+ instead.

Kolly.9872:

fugazi.5139:

Kolly.9872:

fugazi.5139:

Kolly.9872:

but what about if I am low rank but I can play better than many rank 60+? I am stuck with low rank scrubs? rank means anything nowadays.

That would make you a prodigy and you should be playing on one of these pro ‘e-sports’ teams…blowing us all away with your God giving gift of Epicnes. Who r u?

that’s exactly the reason why I play with rank 60+ in my team and they prefer me over all those 60+ skyhammer farmers
but on topic I realy don’t care about soloQ but I still don’t like to split soloQ in different tiers based on ranks because rank still means nothing at all.

First let’s reset all ranks and second give back proper rank to people based only on tournament experience, after that maybe we can start making tiers for soloQ

I agree to a point. I’m talking more on the lower rank. Like less than rank 20 or 15. Just enough time to get people fully rounded in some sense. Of course spliting the ranks in anything higher would just be a disaster.

Might I ask you, What rank are you?

rank 32, I think I have been in 10 hotjoin match since I started to play tho, I don’t want to be forced to play with other rank 30 that farmed their way to 30 doing hotjoin all the day long. But I would realy like if ranks would mean anything in this game, the only thing to do now is to reset ranks and re-assign ranks based on the real team\soloQ experience. I want to see a real rank 60+ and say “crap, this dude have realy spent his life doing pvp”, right now I laugh at many ranks 60+ instead.

Well, see you are not safe. Rank 30 would not have it’s own arena. Like I said, it would stop at r15/20.
Rank does not mean anything. But, that does not mean that there should not be an arena for people that are below rank 20. Meow.

They are not reassigning ranks, drop it, there are plenty of people who have been playing long before there were leaderboards around with no real reward other than rank, people seem to be getting carried away any time they break the top 500 on solo que’s fantastically accurate and not in any way abuseable system

I’d agree about maybe having seperate tier for under rank 10 though, I think anything above that is fair game, your feet are wet enough

azuzephyr.7280:

They are not reassigning ranks, drop it, there are plenty of people who have been playing long before there were leaderboards around with no real reward other than rank, people seem to be getting carried away any time they break the top 500 on solo que’s fantastically accurate and not in any way abuseable system

What? Who said anything about redoing the ranks? Conkittened…

Kolly.9872:

First let’s reset all ranks and second give back proper rank to people based only on tournament experience, after that maybe we can start making tiers for soloQ

and

Kolly.9872:

the only thing to do now is to reset ranks and re-assign ranks based on the real team\soloQ experience.

Quite ironic seeing as they see themselves as too good to play with other people their rank, will only socialise with rank 60s, yet rank means nothing
and should be reset.

Sounds more like “I don’t have the high rank so f-u it sucks anyway”

1-10 and 11-80 should be good.

Think of the 1-10 arena as the kiddy pool or training grounds.

Any more arenas and it segments too much the already small PVP population.

Maybe, they should just remove Hot Join?

I believe, a lot of people agree, that Hot Join isn’t that good for “learning how to play”, as it is to often just running around in a zerg and a lot player just care about glory or kills and not about the actual match win.
Additionally, the total missing of Matchmaking in Hot Join often leads to 5 rank 30+ vs 5 rank 10- or other “unfair” teams.

By putting all players just into solo queue, the MM-system would probably have a bigger pool of players “to chose”, which could result in a decrease of “waiting time” until the matchbegin and maybe even better matchmaking.

For people who don’t care about tournaments/bigger objectives than killing people, ANet just could create some “training-servers” without glory, just for testing builds / duelling (and maybe some Deathmath-servers, as some ppl wnat them).

EverythingEnds.4261:

Maybe, they should just remove Hot Join?

I believe, a lot of people agree, that Hot Join isn’t that good for “learning how to play”, as it is to often just running around in a zerg and a lot player just care about glory or kills and not about the actual match win.
Additionally, the total missing of Matchmaking in Hot Join often leads to 5 rank 30+ vs 5 rank 10- or other “unfair” teams.

By putting all players just into solo queue, the MM-system would probably have a bigger pool of players “to chose”, which could result in a decrease of “waiting time” until the matchbegin and maybe even better matchmaking.

For people who don’t care about tournaments/bigger objectives than killing people, ANet just could create some “training-servers” without glory, just for testing builds / duelling (and maybe some Deathmath-servers, as some ppl wnat them).

Do you really think this would fix anything? Tht would only cause the players you are complaining about to start using the tournament que instead, then solo que would become the new hotjoin and team que would be the only organised pvp, and that’s exactly how it was at release up until leaderboards. At least now there are hotjoins for people who want a very very casual pvp experience [nothing wrong with that] and people can use solo que for is they want something more serious. It might not be as serious as you’d maybe like but removing hotjoin would only worsen that situation.

IMO its a very bad idea

Yea, this is a problem, I totally agree.

I put my hopes into a well working Matchmaking System (→ Beginers play with beginers etc). But maybe you are right.