Devs, may we have a discussion about ele
Didn’t you get the memo? we’re only allowed to have 1 viable build. Which will most likely get nerfed eventually because people don’t want to change their meta builds and use the obvious hard counters against it and would rather cry for nerfs, just like rev, that also only had 1 viable build. Then we will just be forced out of pvp entirely because everything else we have is garbage.
And yet ele is one of the best things you can have atm in your team.
OP, all classes are plagued by unused/poor designed spells. Also, wait, d/d is not used in pvp?
I use my ele facerolling most of the time, and that works suprisingly well – yet they should be buffed instead of nerfed?
No one is asking for the 1 build we have to be buffed. The majority of us hate that build and want our garbage traits and skills that are never used to be buffed. This wouldn’t buff current meta ele anyway, since they don’t use any of those things, it would simply open up more than 1 option for us.
No one is asking for the 1 build we have to be buffed. The majority of us hate that build and want our garbage traits and skills that are never used to be buffed. This wouldn’t buff current meta ele anyway, since they don’t use any of those things, it would simply open up more than 1 option for us.
It’s like that for every single profession. Look at Ranger. Marksmanship, which includes the kittentiest trait in the entire game, Predator’s Instinct, and a set of minors that is 100 % dependent on one of the grandmasters to be relevant after an engagement has started. It’s core mechanic, the pet, which is pretty much dependent on Beastmastery and Nature Magic, and even then – with the pet achieving as much sustain as possible through traits – the vanilla pets accidently die due to unavoidable aoe in PvP. 90 % of the pets are irrelevant.
No one is asking for the 1 build we have to be buffed. The majority of us hate that build and want our garbage traits and skills that are never used to be buffed. This wouldn’t buff current meta ele anyway, since they don’t use any of those things, it would simply open up more than 1 option for us.
yeh that’s a problem that it’s present in many classes in this game, druid only have one available, the bunkee druid we all know.
I agree just adjusting the traits to make more builds available so it doesn’t feel like you play againts the same ele\druid\you-name-it all the time would be fantastic.
Oh ele. Such a boring profession nowadays. I think there should be a balance patch immediately but anet thinks it is better to wait for three months and lose more players.
I suggested already the OP in another thread of his, suggested him to change profession as at the moment ele does not cover any of the roles he’s looking for, moving to another profession for the time being would result in way less frustration.
Why force yourself to play something that you don’t enjoy?
You can “park” the ele for now and come back in the future, there is a good chance next elite will be dps oriented, use another profession..we have 8 slots for a reason
Because ele is the only class in this game with one sort of build better than the rest… ele seems to attract so many “special” snowflakes…
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I would love to have some kind of of discussion about how to improve build ele diversity but our dev ignored us whole 2016 never ever looking even on ele’s sub forum. Saying that I think our discussion to improve something for better in case of ele…is pointless.
Maybe he just hates ele and wants us to bore us to death with ,,supreme" healbot and elite spec only good for protection and heal spaming. I am so envious of other classes that devs had imagination and heart to design something unique and FUN.
Was depressed ele…now depressed druid
Kawaleria (KW)
Kawaleria (KW)
We were all looking forward to something with a sword and a medi guardian type of burst build for ele so we could finally have a non bunker build for pvp. So, they gave us a horn and more bunkering. We aren’t any happier than you all are about it. you think we wanted more boring bunkering? we’ve been asking for a viable dps spec for years. not our fault we have only 1 playable build that isnt even fun to play, because theyre too dumb/stubborn to listen to suggestions and buff scepter and offhand dagger so we have a dps option. nerfing that 1 build we have though just completely removes ele from the game though, because it still has the same problems it had years ago that have never been addressed. All non bunker weapons/traits/skills are terrible. Theyre good for pve against non moving targets with big hitboxes, but worthless in pvp.
I loove running bunk auramancer. Love it. It’s the ultimate troll build quite literally. Takes all kinds of bursts and has trouble dying (at least the WH variant).
Whenever I see an ele camping on a point, I chuckle – that’s what I do too, though only on mid since most of the enemy team goes there. Such a trolly build we have. Another bonus is the group heal
No. You cannot discuss ele because godforbid the meta change.
No one is asking for the 1 build we have to be buffed. The majority of us hate that build and want our garbage traits and skills that are never used to be buffed. This wouldn’t buff current meta ele anyway, since they don’t use any of those things, it would simply open up more than 1 option for us.
yeh that’s a problem that it’s present in many classes in this game, druid only have one available, the bunkee druid we all know.
I agree just adjusting the traits to make more builds available so it doesn’t feel like you play againts the same ele\druid\you-name-it all the time would be fantastic.
Absolutely ridiculous. I have at least 5 viable builds on ranger.
Because ele is the only class in this game with one sort of build better than the rest… ele seems to attract so many “special” snowflakes…
False, and easily falsifiable with one sentence. Run ANYTHING ELSE but dagger/focus on ele and you will die, unlike every other class in the entire game.
Because ele is the only class in this game with one sort of build better than the rest… ele seems to attract so many “special” snowflakes…
False, and easily falsifiable with one sentence. Run ANYTHING ELSE but dagger/focus on ele and you will die, unlike every other class in the entire game.
Not really, I was watching Phantaram stream fresh air ele (s/f) yesterday, he did fine, now would he be better off playing the typical meta ele support d/f, probably, but then that is no different to a lot of classes.
Take engy as an example you think the vast majority of engies play hammer scrapper with the same old traitlines they’ve been using since HoT, just because they like it over say rifle, nah, it is because rifle, half the traitlines, gadgets, turrets (except healing turret), etc are bad in comparison, there is nothing special about eles situation, it is not the only class with a lot of issues with weapons, traits and one type of build that is clearly superior to other options, get over yourself.
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Because ele is the only class in this game with one sort of build better than the rest… ele seems to attract so many “special” snowflakes…
False, and easily falsifiable with one sentence. Run ANYTHING ELSE but dagger/focus on ele and you will die, unlike every other class in the entire game.
Not really, I was watching Phantaram stream fresh air ele (s/f) yesterday, he did fine, now would he be better off playing the typical meta ele support d/f, probably, but then that is no different to a lot of classes.
Take engy as an example you think the vast majority of engies play hammer scrapper with the same old traitlines they’ve been using since HoT, just because they like it over say rifle, nah, it is because rifle, half the traitlines, gadgets, turrets (except healing turret), etc are bad in comparison, there is nothing special about eles situation, it is not the only class with a lot of issues with weapons, traits and one type of build that is clearly superior to other options, get over yourself.
Nope.
Phantaram fresh air ele (s/f) vs NA ranked = ok
Phantaram fresh air ele (s/f) vs EU ranked = Phantaram explodes
ok maybe this is really harsh but players like him don’t have anybody to compete for years in NA so he could run really just run anything in ranked to be OK.
Was depressed ele…now depressed druid
Kawaleria (KW)
Kawaleria (KW)
I don’t think you can have a discussion with the devs about the state of the useless elementalist skills.
We tried for years until the moment Karl was developing Tempest. They refused to listen to 99% of the complaints about useless skills, every positive improvement has been a half-measure that wasn’t enough to make the skills useful.
The class is too complicated and only the original designers and best players really understand how it was meant to work. To put it short: The elementalist class depends on the stats points being linked to the trait lines and it’s a celestial class by nature. Without a celestial amulet and the ability to gain condi duration from fire or healing from water its simply a class with a huge handicap. The only viable build left, full bunker, is only working as a symptom of a broken class.
Left the game because of it, for 6 months, came back 1 months, left for 4 months again. It’s the only way I found to protest until they make the class fun to play again.