Guild Wars 2

This is a grandmaster trait that can be laid waste by so many different ways I don’t feel like saying it.

Roxanne.6140:

This is a grandmaster trait that can be laid waste by so many different ways I don’t feel like saying it.

Doesn’t mean it isn’t horribly designed. They could easily make it more viable across the board while reducing the cheese effect at once. Sounds like a good route to take, right?

Novuake.2691:

Oh look! Sayan complaining about something again! Anyone surprised?

I usually complain about things? When was the last QQ post/topic I made? Though i’m some what bias at times, I like to think i’m quite fair in my responses.

Supreme.3164:

Let’s stop hiding behind words and let’s prove the facts..NOW! I have my friends online, prove the community how you 1vs4 condi people on a cele diamond ele, 100g if you win

There’s a reason why I made that hybrid guardian analogy. Hybrid Guard could 1v3 (have before) but there’s obviously a l2p skill to it. Hybrid guard should never 1v3 some one, let alone 1v2. These occurrences were against noob players who clearly got outplayed.

DS Ele can 1v4. Should it ever happen? Of course not, but it can happen just like the hybrid guardian pre-patch being able to 1v3 baddies. The thing is, DS isn’t l2p issue like the hybrid guard example. It’s a build issue like others have said.

As far as making a video of a 1v3 or 1v4 in spvp where people are highly unorganized, can easily get outplayed by Ele’s mobility, invulnerabilities, and Focus’s anti-projectiles,; yea a video is possible but don’t expect one anytime soon. I don’t main ele, the occurence happened to my guildie. I’ll ask if he can make a vid but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

I completely agree with your other notions regarding DS and Conditions in general.

People keep repeating that anecdote about a mythical Ele 1v4 people and win. I’d love to watch a video of that.

Lopez.7369:

Roxanne.6140:

This is a grandmaster trait that can be laid waste by so many different ways I don’t feel like saying it.

This is exactly why it needs redesigned. It is way too strong in one-on-one situations, and it’s useless — even detrimental, considering the opportunity cost of picking it up — in every other situation. It should be replaced with something that gives real sustainability against conditions instead of a silly gimmick. Stone Heart is a good model for a fix.

This is right actually. While it’s pretty OP against 1 or even 2 condi builds it’s useless in teamfights where non-condi builds are also fighting. Diamond Skin gets better the less maximum health you have (because you can get above the threshold faster then) so you’re usually extremely vulnerable to power burst. If you’re in a fight and a power ranger joins you’re usually toast.

I’d love for it to be some more active and overall balanced anti-condi trait.
Gain 2 seconds of resistance upon swapping attunements, something like that, that’s actually active, and has counterplay.

If a reword is due, it needs to be an option for the No-Cantrip / No Water Elementalist builds. It must not be something that full on Condition Clear Cantrips elementalist will see that much value in. Most people’s idea on a rework of Diamond Skin will sadly put those cantrip builds even stronger.

Here is a bad example of a rework
-Diamond Skin reduces incoming condition duration by 50% above 75% threshold, gain 2 seconds of resistance when swapping to earth.
With this iteration, Diamond Skin mainly rewards builds that is already supported by a vast selection of condition clear. How will anyone be able to deal with Cantrips builds?

Here is another bad example of a rework.
-Conditions cannot be applied while attuned to Earth.
Conditions are much harder to predict than power damage bursts.

Here is an example I’ve submitted a month or two ago in a similar thread. Some claimed to like it.
-Whenever you are above 90% threshold while attuned to Earth, gain Diamond skin.
Diamond Skin reads as, “Conditions cannot be applied. This effect fades out after one second when under 90% health threshold.”

It means that the elementalist needs to be in Earth to gain Diamond Skin back. Though, I am now worried about how untouched Rock Solid + Ether Renewal would be.

Diamond skin my only assurance against condition with my current build, having only Evasive Arcana as a valid condi clear (+ Healing Rain). And in all honestly, I play Settler, and I manage to break the Diamond Skin of my opponents. The only issue is that they have a ton of condi-clear after. If playing condition, you will need Sigil of Leeching to break through, and trap the elementalist in a burst.

If adjustment are needed
-One could look at giving a small buff icon such as the one on Stone Heart to indicate it.
-People need to adjust. (Find a way to burst down the elementalist or add Sigil of Leeching.)
-Embrace of Earth should be looked at.