Dishonor system is ridiculous. Needs fix!

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Posted by: Laodike.8640

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1. Why does the whole team get a loss, if someone disconnected and doesn’t make it back in time even if they win the match?

2. The dishonor of missing the queue and of being afk should be separated. I got one disconnect and missed after that the queue and had to wait 30 min is ridiculous. Basically i had to wait 30 min for missing the queue pop. And this with queue times over 5 min.

3. Your system punishes players who play your game, cause you implemented it the way that it crashes around 1-2 times a day. 2 min. are very short, since your login server lags after a crash.

4. I don’t see the sense in having a dishonor system for premade teams.

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Posted by: RoRo.8270

RoRo.8270

2. Okay I tested this intentionally didn’t accept a queue and I had to wait around 3mins so idk you accidentally typed a 0 or cancel they queue to the point it reaches 30mins

3. I’ve never gotten a crash playing pvp. Sounds like a problem you should troubleshoot instead of continuously trying to queue. 2min is more than enough time to get in. 2mins is a lot of time and during this time frame a match can be decided

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Posted by: Evan Lesh

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1. Why does the whole team get a loss, if someone disconnected and doesn’t make it back in time even if they win the match?

2. The dishonor of missing the queue and of being afk should be separated. I got one disconnect and missed after that the queue and had to wait 30 min is ridiculous. Basically i had to wait 30 min for missing the queue pop. And this with queue times over 5 min.

3. Your system punishes players who play your game, cause you implemented it the way that it crashes around 1-2 times a day. 2 min. are very short, since your login server lags after a crash.

4. I don’t see the sense in having a dishonor system for premade teams.

1. This currently only effects parties, not the whole team. This is being fixed for victories.

2. The system is designed to discourage players from doing bad thing regardless of what that bad thing is. Match accept might be something to separate though since it doesn’t effect a match that must be played. Something to think about.

3. Not exactly sure whats going on here, but if you’re consistently getting crashes, you may be having OOM problems and could benefit from the 64-bit client.

4. Dishonor should affect the game result of premades so that 1 person can’t prevent a loss from affecting their friends. Only the person who disconnects actually gets a dishonor timeout. Otherwise see #1.

Bluxgore (80 Warr), Xilz (80 Necro), Ivo (80 Eng)
Bra (80 Guard), Fixie Bow (80 Ranger), Wcharr (80 Ele)
Xdragonshadowninjax (80 Thief)

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

sephiroth.4217

2. Okay I tested this intentionally didn’t accept a queue and I had to wait around 3mins so idk you accidentally typed a 0 or cancel they queue to the point it reaches 30mins

3. I’ve never gotten a crash playing pvp. Sounds like a problem you should troubleshoot instead of continuously trying to queue. 2min is more than enough time to get in. 2mins is a lot of time and during this time frame a match can be decided

2 mins might be a lot of time to most people, but myself being an Aussie on wireless net I can say 2 minutes is no where near enough time to restart the client.

Open client > Log in…. loading character select screen takes roughly a minute by itself. Then gotta load HoTM before loading the actual map…

Thankfully I haven’t crashed since using 64b client. And the 64 client is a hell of a lot slower with loading times than the other client. (for me)

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.

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Posted by: ShadowsGothicAngel.4630

ShadowsGothicAngel.4630

i had the same thing happen to me two days ago after the wifi cut me off, and no one wasn’t playing right!

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Posted by: Chip Skylark.2367

Chip Skylark.2367

Just want to say Thank you for addressing concerns Evan! The radio silence in the PvP forum was really upsetting.

Now please tell me when you’re nerfing kittening obviously kitten overpowered kitten as kitten Revenants

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

1. Why does the whole team get a loss, if someone disconnected and doesn’t make it back in time even if they win the match?

2. The dishonor of missing the queue and of being afk should be separated. I got one disconnect and missed after that the queue and had to wait 30 min is ridiculous. Basically i had to wait 30 min for missing the queue pop. And this with queue times over 5 min.

3. Your system punishes players who play your game, cause you implemented it the way that it crashes around 1-2 times a day. 2 min. are very short, since your login server lags after a crash.

4. I don’t see the sense in having a dishonor system for premade teams.

1. This currently only effects parties, not the whole team. This is being fixed for victories.

2. The system is designed to discourage players from doing bad thing regardless of what that bad thing is. Match accept might be something to separate though since it doesn’t effect a match that must be played. Something to think about.

3. Not exactly sure whats going on here, but if you’re consistently getting crashes, you may be having OOM problems and could benefit from the 64-bit client.

4. Dishonor should affect the game result of premades so that 1 person can’t prevent a loss from affecting their friends. Only the person who disconnects actually gets a dishonor timeout. Otherwise see #1.

what about someone who disconnected right before their team won?

for example,
evan was in blue team, leading at 490 team points, crushing red team at 100 team points.

the team score ticks 498 but evan was disconnected due to client crash etc.
evan gets a loss and branded as a deserter.

now tell me, how would evan feel?

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Posted by: Evan Lesh

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what about someone who disconnected right before their team won?

for example,
evan was in blue team, leading at 490 team points, crushing red team at 100 team points.

the team score ticks 498 but evan was disconnected due to client crash etc.
evan gets a loss and branded as a deserter.

now tell me, how would evan feel?

If Evan disconnected right before he won, he wouldn’t have been gone longer than the grace period and he would still get a win and a pip (but no rank points or reward track).

Bluxgore (80 Warr), Xilz (80 Necro), Ivo (80 Eng)
Bra (80 Guard), Fixie Bow (80 Ranger), Wcharr (80 Ele)
Xdragonshadowninjax (80 Thief)

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Posted by: Slyverine.7081

Slyverine.7081

Last game i played with a 4 man party, one Dc ,we won the game but we all lost 2 points. Is this intented;

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

what about someone who disconnected right before their team won?

for example,
evan was in blue team, leading at 490 team points, crushing red team at 100 team points.

the team score ticks 498 but evan was disconnected due to client crash etc.
evan gets a loss and branded as a deserter.

now tell me, how would evan feel?

If Evan disconnected right before he won, he wouldn’t have been gone longer than the grace period and he would still get a win and a pip (but no rank points or reward track).

i see. that sounds a bit better then.
thanks!

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Posted by: Evan Lesh

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Evan Lesh

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Last game i played with a 4 man party, one Dc ,we won the game but we all lost 2 points. Is this intented;

This is getting fixed!

Bluxgore (80 Warr), Xilz (80 Necro), Ivo (80 Eng)
Bra (80 Guard), Fixie Bow (80 Ranger), Wcharr (80 Ele)
Xdragonshadowninjax (80 Thief)

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Last game i played with a 4 man party, one Dc ,we won the game but we all lost 2 points. Is this intented;

This is getting fixed!

thanks evan!

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Posted by: Slyverine.7081

Slyverine.7081

O i seee nice ty! Hope we take our points back + 1 for our well deserved win :-)