Guild Wars 2

I understand the need to punish leavers and afkers, but anet you need to tweak this system. First, it doesnt work. No one “leaves” a match because theyre losing. People that leave usually have conection issues, actual players that want to leave the match just afk at spawn.

Second, people are being punished for your server inestability. People that crash or cant enter a tourney are the ones getting the debuff. Ive been around for a while and remember the good ol days of the loading screen boss; just imagine the amount of dishonorable i wouldve got back then.

There are 3 simple solutions for this. The best way would be to actually respond to reports on afkers, and have a human being judge if the leaver is deserving on the dishonorable debuff. I know this would require too many resources, so the second solution would be a smaller penalty, you leave one match you get 1hr timeout. People can /spit at you and know youre a leaver for that hour and your head can cool off from wtv reason it was you left. I think the best solution would be to remove the dishonorable debuff alltogether. Leavers are not that big of a problem, and a lost match wont kill anyone. Its not like this game will ever be esports anyways.

Nemiros.3590:

No one “leaves” a match because theyre losing.

Yes they do, simply because there are ragequitters out there.

Nemiros.3590:

People that leave usually have conection issues

So what? If I happen to lag out in a match I’ll stop queuing until I’m sure this won’t happen again. You’re ruining the game experience of at least 4 other people by lagging out.

Nemiros.3590:

Second, people are being punished for your server inestability. People that crash or cant enter a tourney are the ones getting the debuff.

I agree the servers might not be the best, but you won’t get a dishonor debuff for lagging out once or twice. If you still do, you knowingly kept on playing ranked tournies and accepted the fact that you may ruin your teammates game experience by lagging out. This is a well deserved ban.

Nemiros.3590:

People can /spit at you and know youre a leaver for that hour and your head can cool off from wtv reason it was you left. I think the best solution would be to remove the dishonorable debuff alltogether.

Thats the whole point of using a dishonorable system. You earn despise, because you let your teammates down. Do you expect to just get away with it?

Nemiros.3590:

Leavers are not that big of a problem, and a lost match wont kill anyone. Its not like this game will ever be esports anyways.

Solo & Team Q are there for a reason: competition. If you don’t mind winning or losing, you may aswell go back to playing Hotjoin. You screwed others game experience several times, therefore you’re punished.

Following your argumentation I could punch you in the face risking to break your nose and then say “It’s all fun, I mean your nose is broken, but you won’t die from it either.”

Nemiros.3590:

Following your argumentation I could punch you in the face risking to break your nose and then say “It’s all fun, I mean your nose is broken, but you won’t die from it either.”

LOL

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For me the dishonored debuff is fine, it would also help to have a simple way to report the ppl who afk at the spawn…it’s very annoying and it happens a lot of times

dishonored debuff is not enough, also should have way to report afkers at spawn.
I always make sure to tell ppl with dishonored debuff that they are scum

I agree on “report a person due afk”-box on COMPETITVE gameplay like solo and team q.

If anything, the dishonor debuff should be MORE penalizing.

People DO leave because of losing.

And…Most people with connection issues are due to THEIR poor internet service/computer…not ANET.

If you have high disconnects and/or like to ragequit, then you have ZERO business playing in ranked sPvP.

Not only are you hurting yourself, you are hurting others. It’s common courtesy…much like you wouldn’t sneeze on people if you’re sick.

Like most forum posts, this one is complaining about something from the selfish perspective of “how it impacts me only”.

Ok, didnt realize there was so many people with hurt feelings over leavers, guess it just doesnt happen as much to me.

How about they keep the dishonored debuff in soloq, and they take it off Teamq.

By the “should” logic im receiving here, only people with full premades should be playing in tpvp. If someone disconects, hell even ragequits, its the whole premade’s fault for bringing him along and they all pay with a loss.

Nemiros.3590:

I understand the need to punish leavers and afkers, but anet you need to tweak this system. First, it doesnt work. No one “leaves” a match because theyre losing. People that leave usually have conection issues, actual players that want to leave the match just afk at spawn.

Second, people are being punished for your server inestability. People that crash or cant enter a tourney are the ones getting the debuff. Ive been around for a while and remember the good ol days of the loading screen boss; just imagine the amount of dishonorable i wouldve got back then.

There are 3 simple solutions for this. The best way would be to actually respond to reports on afkers, and have a human being judge if the leaver is deserving on the dishonorable debuff. I know this would require too many resources, so the second solution would be a smaller penalty, you leave one match you get 1hr timeout. People can /spit at you and know youre a leaver for that hour and your head can cool off from wtv reason it was you left. I think the best solution would be to remove the dishonorable debuff alltogether. Leavers are not that big of a problem, and a lost match wont kill anyone. Its not like this game will ever be esports anyways.

I have to disagree with most of your statement and ideas. Most of the 4v5 and leavers are people who don’t like the map of the team structure. I believe Anet knows this info and has determined that its an issue but not a huge problem. You get several dishonors before your locked out and thats great because if for some reason you do crash you still get to play. At the same time if you run crap internet or computer and your crashing all the time you are effecting others trying to play and don’t deserve to play. The dishonor system seems to be working for the most part I am sure there are exceptions. If you feel that your disconnects because of the server are causing you dishonor and lock outs you should submit a ticket. Im sure Anet can see what happened and correct it. Not saying your ticket will be top priority or that it will get answered but thats a different topic. I have only crashed once since the patch and that was last tuesday when the patch came out. I have top of the line internet tho but an average computer. If your having issues I suggest looking at your set up.

However I so wish that when you report someone there was an option for AFKers. I dislike quitters and hate when someone goes AFK because the match isn’t going there way. Many times just yesterday my team didn’t give up after being down 100-200 points in a match and we won!

Good luck and I hope this issue clears up for you.

I dont have dishonored. Got it once because of electrical inestability in my country but that was several weeks ago, and it only drove me to play other games for much loger than the diahonored debuff duration. Maybe this leaver problem is more prevalent in the lower rankings? I rarely see it.

I’ve had multiple games with leavers recently. Generally if your team gets any kind of big early advantage (like getting 200-100 and having secured most objectives on the map) there’s a good chance someone will rage quit. It doesn’t always happen, but I’ve had 3v5s and 4v5s a few times, and honestly it ruins the game for 9 people (because its boring as hell to 5v4 as the team with 5).

The reality is that the debuff should always apply regardless of your reason for leaving. Also AFKers should have an equal punishment, based off player reports and also automated systems (check to see if they’ve contributed recently).