Forum Bug Crit Sykper for his exact health.
Sykper is downed!
No they don’t need nerf, because if you don’t rotate correctly, you die fast. You have to be very good in offensive, or you die really easily.
By the way, Condi Warrior will rule season 3 pvp, I love it, even mesmers and eles will die, even if they are full bunker!
It’s really entertaining to see people think the game is balanced around 1v1, while it’s balanced around CONQUEST/5v5.
It’s really weird to see that people still bring this type of argument. 1v1s are a big part of 5v5 conquest since you have three nodes and not one. Classes like mesmer that can push basically in every 1v1 creating a winning situation on this node are a huge advantage.
Don’t expect every class should win 1v1 vs any class, like it was in 2013-2014.
That time is over. You need to be more strategic and send the RIGHT class to the RIGHT point where the RIGHT enemy is for him to fight/stall.
But that’s exactly the point people are complaining about? That mesmer, warrior and druid currently win too much 1v1s. It doesn’t matter if you send your warrior or mesmer against a revenant,scrapper,reaper,dragonhunter etc you play ways less strategic then before.
Warrior kills necro 1v1? Fine, learn from it and don’t engage warrior as necro then. You can send anything else.
You can still send Necro to other points vs Revs/Engi/Mesmers and/or support in teamfights.
This pro tip is free on the house.
It’s not like the necro has to engage the warrior it’s enough when your warrior pushs the nodes against a necromancer. Considering now that you need your druid to 1v1 the enemy mesmer while thief/revenant/scrapper/dragonhunter and ele would be in a bad matchup against the warrior as well, you already have a huge disadvantage. Interesting to see what huge impact 1v1s in 5v5 do have, right?
And sending your necromancer against a mesmer like you suggest is also not so pro, sorry mate.
Anyways, you simply missed the point I was saying with warr vs reaper. It was just a reply to your strange statement that “poison would kill warriors”, allthough in fact warrior has nearly the best condition management right now and can faceroll any condition class apart from mesmer.
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It’s really entertaining to see people think the game is balanced around 1v1, while it’s balanced around CONQUEST/5v5.
It’s really weird to see that people still bring this type of argument. 1v1s are a big part of 5v5 conquest since you have three nodes and not one. Classes like mesmer that can push basically in every 1v1 creating a winning situation on this node are a huge advantage.
Don’t expect every class should win 1v1 vs any class, like it was in 2013-2014.
That time is over. You need to be more strategic and send the RIGHT class to the RIGHT point where the RIGHT enemy is for him to fight/stall.But that’s exactly the point people are complaining about? That mesmer, warrior and druid currently win too much 1v1s. It doesn’t matter if you send your warrior or mesmer against a revenant,scrapper,reaper,dragonhunter etc you play ways less strategic then before.
Warrior kills necro 1v1? Fine, learn from it and don’t engage warrior as necro then. You can send anything else.
You can still send Necro to other points vs Revs/Engi/Mesmers and/or support in teamfights.
This pro tip is free on the house.It’s not like the necro has to engage the warrior it’s enough when your warrior pushs the nodes against a necromancer. Considering now that you need your druid to 1v1 the enemy mesmer while thief/revenant/scrapper/dragonhunter and ele would be in a bad matchup against the warrior as well, you already have a huge disadvantage. Interesting to see what huge impact 1v1s in 5v5 do have, right?
And sending your necromancer against a mesmer like you suggest is also not so pro, sorry mate.Anyways, you simply missed the point I was saying with warr vs reaper. It was just a reply to your strange statement that “poison would kill warriors”, allthough in fact warrior has nearly the best condition management right now and can faceroll any condition class apart from mesmer.
Here I thought Necro’s had Corruption, RIP!
My bad, then. Clearly I have no idea how the game works.
If you think necro wins mesmers or warriors because of corruption ,I have to tell you that you are indeed bad
Rest in RIP
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If you think necro wins mesmers and warriors because of corruption ,I have to tell you that you are indeed bad without any clue
Rest in RIP
Absolutely, I was probably fighting NPC’s last couple of days!
My bad, pro!
Considering unranked is up currently, you prolly fought worse people than the mist npcs,whatsoever…
I can also kill druids with my thief in unranked – that’s not a good reference, tho.
Everyone, who mains reaper or mesmer can confirm that reaper currently loses to mesmer and warrior meta build or is at least in an unfavoured matchup
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Considering unranked is up currently, you prolly fought worse people than the mist npcs,whatsoever…
I can also kill druids with my thief in unranked – that’s not a good reference, tho
Just out of curiousity: where do you get your ‘facts’ from, then?
Since Unranked and Hotjoin are not a reference yet the only ones available, right now?
scrims? conversation between players who used to main those classes? 1v1s in own arenas etc?
scrims? conversation between players who used to main those classes?
Scrims.. and conversations…
Wow.
Yes, that’s the thing with that you find out which are 1v1s in your favour and which aren’t. How you have to rotate and so on – and after each balance patch you can repeat.
Much better source and reference than spreading untrue facts based on unranked
Stop being so mad pls.
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Yes, that’s the thing with that you find out which are 1v1s in your favour and which aren’t. How you have to rotate. Stop being so mad pls.
I’m actually.. laughing.
Never mind me, please do go on!
This thread is laughably sad.
Warriors were trash tier for 2 seasons. They now get a buff. Season 3 hasn’t even started yet but all i see here is players who used to farm other players who were stubborn enough to play warrior in S1 and S2, now having difficulty killing them.
People complaining about double endure pain like its a new thing. You’re only having trouble now because of the adrenal health healing them a lot during the double endure pain. Also i suspect people have forgotten how to fight warriors or at least got used to ROFLStomping them in the last 2 seasons.
Bring poison and learn to kite a warrior.
Maybe season 3 will show that the regen might need a shave but i strongly disagree in doing that solely based only on unranked performances.
SMH.
This thread is laughably sad.
Warriors were trash tier for 2 seasons. They now get a buff. Season 3 hasn’t even started yet but all i see here is players who used to farm other players who were stubborn enough to play warrior in S1 and S2, now having difficulty killing them.
People complaining about double endure pain like its a new thing. You’re only having trouble now because of the adrenal health healing them a lot during the double endure pain. Also i suspect people have forgotten how to fight warriors or at least got used to ROFLStomping them in the last 2 seasons.
Bring poison and learn to kite a warrior.
Maybe season 3 will show that the regen might need a shave but i strongly disagree in doing that solely based only on unranked performances.
SMH.
THANK YOU, atleast someone with sense.
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This thread is laughably sad.
Warriors were trash tier for 2 seasons. They now get a buff. Season 3 hasn’t even started yet but all i see here is players who used to farm other players who were stubborn enough to play warrior in S1 and S2, now having difficulty killing them.
People complaining about double endure pain like its a new thing. You’re only having trouble now because of the adrenal health healing them a lot during the double endure pain. Also i suspect people have forgotten how to fight warriors or at least got used to ROFLStomping them in the last 2 seasons.
Bring poison and learn to kite a warrior.
Maybe season 3 will show that the regen might need a shave but i strongly disagree in doing that solely based only on unranked performances.
SMH.
I main warrior myself, just you know.
It’s just funny to see all those people complained about powercreep,overpowered classes and what not else but when their own class gets pushed onto the same lvl. everything is fine and none is allowed to address balance issues simply because warrior was unviable for 2 seasons. Guess what, necro for example was unviable for ages and got nerfed after one season because they were too strong.
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I main warrior myself, just you know.
It’s just funny to see all those people complained about powercreep,overpowered classes and what not else but when their own class gets pushed onto the same lvl. everything is fine and none is allowed to address balance issues simply because warrior was unviable for 2 seasons. Guess what, necro for example was unviable for ages and got nerfed after one season because they were too strong.
By comparing War with Necro (season 2) are you implying that War can now ROFL stomp most people like necros were doing? Will we see 2 to 3 warriors in every ranked team in season 3?
Somehow i dont think so. Warrior is still a very selfish class. It doesnt bring much to the team other than DPS. A rev can do that and bring boons. A thief has DPS and brings mobility.
No. You’re just used to Warriors being utter trash. Being able to win a matchup with a specific build means pretty much nothing, especially since power necro is not that great.
And no, Warrior is not top tier. Its current state is “playable”.
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This thread is laughably sad.
Warriors were trash tier for 2 seasons. They now get a buff. Season 3 hasn’t even started yet but all i see here is players who used to farm other players who were stubborn enough to play warrior in S1 and S2, now having difficulty killing them.
People complaining about double endure pain like its a new thing. You’re only having trouble now because of the adrenal health healing them a lot during the double endure pain. Also i suspect people have forgotten how to fight warriors or at least got used to ROFLStomping them in the last 2 seasons.
Bring poison and learn to kite a warrior.
Maybe season 3 will show that the regen might need a shave but i strongly disagree in doing that solely based only on unranked performances.
SMH.
Haha you said it better than I ever could!
Come on guys, at LEAST let us STEP OUT into the sun, much less have our day in it! I seriously can’t believe all this warrior qq right now. Now I know how mesmers feel…
…warriors seem just fine to me. I have yet to encounter one that seems over the top. Sure, in the hands of a skilled player they are a tough fight, but they should be.
Are you sure it’s not that you are used to the free kill and want it to go back that way?
I personally have no opinion on this. The massive influx of condi warr peasants guarantees me that I’ll at least have an ez time stomping most of them in early divisions on my vanilla power warr, and tbh, I’d give a lot to replace the majority of S2 condi reapers with condi warrs. I mean yes, the 1v1’s last longer than they should because berserker gives you ezmode access to adrenal health compared to Vanilla, but the gist of the fight is still the same. Condi warr doesn’t have too much mobility, so as long as you can kite then during berserker mode and not waste burst on endure pain you’ll be fine.
Heck, I recently started playing invocation power rev and to my surprise I manage to kill a lot of condi warriors despite the advantage being so much in their favor. So no, I don’t think they need a nerf, certainly they’re a pain to deal with, because adrenal health provides amazing sustain and allows some of them to live way beyond what their skill level should allow them to, but would you rather half a condi warr on condi mes on the other team? I think the answer is obvious.
Did u guys watch cakewalk guild’s Vaans latest berserker roaming videos? He fights outnumbered easily while maintaining healthy healing…its quite unreal
I fought berserkers post April patch and their healing is way through the roof.
I don’t stand a chance against them on my power reaper.
I can only win on my condi reaper with the constant poison uptime.
And in the words of a fellow fighter, you need to kill berserkers 3 times now before you can win because of double immune pain on top of the insane healing.The berserkers themselves admitted as much that they are top tier now.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Berserkers-now-viable-post-April-patch
But my question is, does being top tier mean they need to get nerfed?
If yes, what areas need to be toned down?
If no, do you have any advise on how a power build with no consistent poison application can win them?
First of all, power necro is just the wrong spec to be running in spvp.
Second of all, warrior has always countered necros. That’s just the way it is.
Third of all, berserker is in no way OP. It’s just people still trying to adapt vs. new specs.
Did u guys watch cakewalk guild’s Vaans latest berserker roaming videos? He fights outnumbered easily while maintaining healthy healing…its quite unreal
I’ve seen Zerk/Marauder Necros do equally well, look at Hollts reaper video. Most of their opponents are pretty stupid. Blatantly obvious. Vs any 2 very competent players, you’re dead.
Problem with warrior and all other classes: when they buff it in PVP that buff is multiplied by 10x in WvW.
They must split all 3 game modes: PVP, PVE and WvW.
Problem with warrior and all other classes: when they buff it in PVP that buff is multiplied by 10x in WvW.
They must split all 3 game modes: PVP, PVE and WvW.
This. Mix a tempest and a scrapper into the comp with 3 warriors and you have a mobile death machine with 50%+ damage reduction, never ending projectile hate/reflect/retal/regen/healz/invuln/block/freakish burn/insane CC, boons and heals for miles rolling over everything in it’s path.
Seeing more and more of this in the last 2 matchups. Wonder how crazy it will get.
Feels like a combination of stab changes, warrior buffs, nerfs to condi reaper + the insane projectile hate in game atm.
Did u guys watch cakewalk guild’s Vaans latest berserker roaming videos? He fights outnumbered easily while maintaining healthy healing…its quite unreal
I did. The quality of opponents they face is regrettable.
However you have bought up what all universal players already know. (Universal=they HoTM, WvW,PvE, raid, fractal)
Berserker is not as strong universally as it might be in HoTM. When players ask for nerfs they seem to forget, or simply just don’t care about the roamers, the raiders, speed runners.
Get anyone of these players asking for nerfs to roam in wvw with a condi warrior and they’ll soon recognise they aren’t as strong as they thought they were. Just because durability runes, mercenary and minstrel gear etc don’t exist in HoTM doesn’t mean they are gone from the game entirely. It especially doesn’t mean if you nerf some professions offense that a few million HP will be shaved off some bosses that are on timers.
This is exactly why this game had a berserker meta for the first 3 years, because anything was just a time waste.
Problem with warrior and all other classes: when they buff it in PVP that buff is multiplied by 10x in WvW.
They must split all 3 game modes: PVP, PVE and WvW.
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