Guild Wars 2

We saw this coming miles away and they didn’t give a kitten….. Now that Leagues are here and no Solo Q was added, our fears have come true. Honestly I start feeling like Anet actually thinks this is all just fine. I mean they must have known this would happen and they always wanted to focus on the PvP teams anyway, which is the reason they removed Solo Q in the first place. They never talked about Solo players, only teams and this is exactly what we got. Wouldn’t be suprised if they just make a thread stating, that we can either team up with other players, or can go kitten ourselfs….

Soloq = you, 4premade vs 5premade.

Sadly, this is likely why Guild Wars 2 will never become a proper e-sports. Its players, the majority, those who just want to jump into PvP games leisurely throughout the day and not need to wait for a group of friends being available to play with, get ticked off. They get frustrated. Salty.—If you are annoyed/frustrated/kittenidized with the PvP you try to play, why would you ever want to go watch a tournament of it? E.g., I watch streams of things that engage me. Things that excite me. Not things that literally makes me spew salty micro-droplets of spit all over my keyboard as I rage at the ridiculousness of premades vs. solo queue, and how blatantly unfair it is that one team has a tailored comp, while the other is already taking a risk with randomly assigning the slots of their team mates. It’s a horrible system.

All a person who queues solo right now truly serves to do, is to over time artificially boost pips on premade teams they get paired up against. That can’t be considered right. That has to be considered a flaw. Any sort of legitimacy in the league climbing goes out the window when a group of five good players can just steamroll a group of randomly put together solo queuers and get free progression. Even if said solo queuers may be decent in their own right. As a note on that; Team comp from the randomization can be severely out of whack, as it often is. E.g., throughout the day you will see 2 of a profession on one team, 2 of a different profession on the other team and so on forth. Why weren’t the matchmaking mixing those up? 1 of each to each team instead. MMR matters to a degree, but class composition matters too.

Yes, by re-introducing solo queue (and it should be proper solo queue too, and not encompass people who duo-queue, as that is a small premade and as such, you should acknowledge that you wish to face others who group), the group queue is likely to get somewhat slow again, as it were way back when (when PvP weren’t even remotely close to as “popular” as it is now, for the time being—unless something is done and people get so frustrated they stop playing (the mode)). But you know what? That is not the fault of those who wish to solo queue. If the majority wish to solo queue, why isn’t that taken into consideration? It’s the majority that you want to please so that they are engaged and willing to invest more time into spectating tournaments, bolstering the e-sports scene. You should not try to only please the few e-sport puppies you wish to pet and keep happy. Doing so will alienate the spectators. And those are the ones you need, almost more than the few players that wish to compete.

PS: I hate how in the current system, I am pretty much always (ok, not literally) matched against teams that has premade groups (of 2-4). But these groups are practically never on my team. It’s seriously frustrating. Give us back Solo Queue!

Well you will have other with you that is a group. How else would 4man get thier 5th? Dota2 have a good matchup always same comp. Either its 2+3 or 4+1 it’s The same on both teams. Solo/duo and team que = 5 man. That how it suppost to be.

Klangy.8293:

Well you will have other with you that is a group. How else would 4man get thier 5th? Dota2 have a good matchup always same comp. Either its 2+3 or 4+1 it’s The same on both teams. Solo/duo and team que = 5 man. That how it suppost to be.

Single players can queue for Group Queue to bolster 4-man teams. If that happens or not frequently enough is down to question, but there is no reason why Solo Queue should not exist and for those who queue in it, to only face others who has queued in it on their own as well. If Group Queue suffers, that is purely because it’d not be as popular. Serve the majority on this one, if you want to see sPvP remain flourishing and prosperous in the “e-sports” scene.