Guild Wars 2

Do any of you realize that the celestial nerf might not even be a nerf at all?

On paper the amulet losing 10% stats is a nerf. But everyone who is calling this a nerf doesn’t seem to account for the fact that the amulet will synergize better after the patch with more classes and builds than now.

The celestial amulet is designed to provide a rounded build. With the patch allowing you to dip all the way into three trees, you should be able to form builds from most classes that has a lot of synergy with the amulet. Whatever damage you drop from losing 40ish power, you may pick right back up through damage modifiers.

After the patch you also have more than three classes of doing the above.

I don’t think this is an actual nerf at all. Maybe even a little bit of a buff in some areas.

I think it’ll still be a strong choice for hybrid builds. My hope is that pure condi / pure zerker / pure support builds can be viable too.

Can you point me to where the celestial amulet changes were mentioned?

Thanks.

hope it accounts for the 1400 lost stat points.

You can lose stats on it but the classes that benefit from it will still be braindead cancer.

BlackTruth.6813:

You can lose stats on it but the classes that benefit from it will still be braindead cancer.

yeah, warrior is braindead cancer to be sure. all warriors are scrubs.

choovanski.5462:

BlackTruth.6813:

You can lose stats on it but the classes that benefit from it will still be braindead cancer.

yeah, warrior is braindead cancer to be sure. all warriors are scrubs.

Sorry, I meant specs. But at least shoutbow is close to not being cancer even though it’s easy mode.

Josh Davis.6015:

The amulets will be rebalanced to compensate for the loss of stats originally gained from trait lines.

This is probably as good of a place as any to mention that we’ll also be using this opportunity to rebalance PvP’s celestial amulet to be slightly less effective. We’re probably looking at a 10%~ decrease in overall stats, but this number can change as we draw closer to releasing the core specialization changes.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Impact-on-PVP-with-no-stats-from-traits/5004601/quote

BlackTruth.6813:

choovanski.5462:

BlackTruth.6813:

You can lose stats on it but the classes that benefit from it will still be braindead cancer.

yeah, warrior is braindead cancer to be sure. all warriors are scrubs.

Sorry, I meant specs. But at least shoutbow is close to not being cancer even though it’s easy mode.

look bud, I like your play and your full yolo builds but not everyone is going to run zerk so you can kill them easily. I run valk shouts (ham sw/sh) on my warrior, and sure it’s hard as hell to kill- but is it braindead? I don’t think so, I gotta watch my teams health and condis, peel with cc, interrupt ressess and stomps, get ressess and stomps without having stab, and in general play well. there are more roles than full dps. people are going to continue to run bunker and bruiser specs because they are good for the team.

cele is a nice middle ground between bunk and dps, it sacrifices a lot of offense for support. zerker engineer can literally 1 shot people with a combo, cele engi can’t do anything like that, but it sustains well and does good damage. not only is it better in teamfights, but unlike zerker engi it does not have a ‘thieves you gotta kill me it’s so easy’ sign stuck to it’s back. it’s gonna be interesting to see zerker physical warrior emerge, hopefully it can stand up to the new thief (SA op why the 50% dog reduction why). but it has to be recognised that thief makes most classes zerk options unviable.

choovanski.5462:

BlackTruth.6813:

choovanski.5462:

BlackTruth.6813:

You can lose stats on it but the classes that benefit from it will still be braindead cancer.

yeah, warrior is braindead cancer to be sure. all warriors are scrubs.

Sorry, I meant specs. But at least shoutbow is close to not being cancer even though it’s easy mode.

look bud, I like your play and your full yolo builds but not everyone is going to run zerk so you can kill them easily. I run valk shouts (ham sw/sh) on my warrior, and sure it’s hard as hell to kill- but is it braindead? I don’t think so, I gotta watch my teams health and condis, peel with cc, interrupt ressess and stomps, get ressess and stomps without having stab, and in general play well. there are more roles than full dps. people are going to continue to run bunker and bruiser specs because they are good for the team.

cele is a nice middle ground between bunk and dps, it sacrifices a lot of offense for support. zerker engineer can literally 1 shot people with a combo, cele engi can’t do anything like that, but it sustains well and does good damage. not only is it better in teamfights, but unlike zerker engi it does not have a ‘thieves you gotta kill me it’s so easy’ sign stuck to it’s back. it’s gonna be interesting to see zerker physical warrior emerge, hopefully it can stand up to the new thief (SA op why the 50% dog reduction why). but it has to be recognised that thief makes most classes zerk options unviable.

Eh shoutbow is pretty braindead. Im not saying it cant be tough, since im sure most warriors who play it in tourneys have to pay attention to alot going on, but in general solo queues the build is easy. Also a fair amount of the stuff you said every class has to do, some more than others. Anyways the real issue i have with shoutbows is that they are so hard to kill yet are not super weak. They have great reward with no risk at all.

The same thing kinda goes with cele engi. I feel like engineer is just in general a bit tougher than warrior since you have a lot more going on, but once you understand where your skills are celestial engineer has the same reward with no risk. And just like shoutbow that has more to do with having amazing skills with pretty low cooldowns than just the celestial amulet.

LOL I think they’re just trolling trying to be funny by calling shout warriors braindead. I wouldnt take it seriously. Most people know better.