Guild Wars 2

I love the downed state in PvE and WvW but in PvP, I just hate it.

You spend 15-20 secs in the downed state, trying your best to rally or heal. Then you die, and wait another 10-15 secs for a respawn.

Before you know it, you’ve spent 30 secs of the match not doing anything.

The downed state is meant to give players a chance, and be more adventurous and relieve the fear of dying. It works really well in PvE and WvW.

But in PvP, it feels more of a hindrance and makes me want to be less adventurous and gun-ho cowboy Xena the warrior princess Rambo crazy.

Most competitive games have a respawn penalty timer, which is fine by me, but you add the time in downed state, its just an outrages amount of time that you can’t be in the match.

[Suggestion]

Get rid of either the downed state completely OR the respawn penalty when you die.

The game doesn’t need two penalties for dying. If it did have two death penalties, they shouldn’t be the same penalties, maybe one timer and one armor penalty.

Am I the only one who feels this way?

I never go down, but it is annoying having to stomp people. >.>

ChoChoBo.6503:

Am I the only one who feels this way?

You’re definitely in the minority.

Downed state is very good for the game. It prevents glass cannons with a survival cooldown from dominating the game. If you’re stuck in down state for a while, then people are intentionally bleeding you out to prevent you from getting back in the game. That’s only viable when there’s no chance of you being rallied. And if that’s happening, then you’re probably the last one at a node (learn when you need to abandon it) or you’re being overly aggressive with your map position (know what fights you can win quickly before you get +1’ed).

Exedore.6320:

ChoChoBo.6503:

Am I the only one who feels this way?

You’re definitely in the minority.

Downed state is very good for the game. It prevents glass cannons with a survival cooldown from dominating the game. If you’re stuck in down state for a while, then people are intentionally bleeding you out to prevent you from getting back in the game. That’s only viable when there’s no chance of you being rallied. And if that’s happening, then you’re probably the last one at a node (learn when you need to abandon it) or you’re being overly aggressive with your map position (know what fights you can win quickly before you get +1’ed).

Not saying that downed state is bad. Just saying that being in the downed state and not being able to rally or rez, is already like a penalty in PvP, doesn’t make sense to add a second penalty with the respawn timer. Just feels a little redundant to me.

I personally think that if you go down on point after keeping 3+ occupied for 30 secs is worth giving them the 5 points for killing me, since it can mean that the team could have the other 2 points tick for 15+ points. Being overly aggressive can be good in someways. Just annoyed when I have to wait 10-20 sec in downed state, then another 6-10 secs to respawn for trying to get a possible point advantage. 30 secs is so long when you’re in a match. The most I’ve seen in other games that you have to wait in other games is 15 secs.

I’m just going to guess that everyone here feels that being in the downed state isn’t a penalty, and drop the subject.

The respawn timer is there for a reason. Some team fights can take forever without any team capping middle point any soon and imagine finally wiping the other team’s bunkers but look here they come back because there’s no respawn timer. In a fight it’s not uncommon stomping people if cleave is not enough to prevent the ress. This would mean they would just be back very soon after being stomped. You can’t always let people bleed out.

Also, if you’re trying your best to ress yourself in downstate but being constantly prevented from doing so and prolonging the time before you’re back with your team, you’re doing it wrong. That’s why people don’t actually try to ress themselves and just wait before they bleed out, it’s faster. In some situations it can be worth it but normally it isn’t.

If you watch any streams of videos of the top competitive teams, people rarely stay in down state for long in a team fight. Usually it’s the last guy who goes down off-point far from his spawn that gets left there to bleed out.

Also, other games have shorter respawn timers because they have larger maps. You’re still away from the action for just as long.