Dragon Hunter Trap builds need nerfs
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/facepalm
another one…
OK, so here it is:
1, if you see a Guardian on a point you know there are traps!
2, you can activate them by minions (means dead DH)
3, you can counterplay it with stability-block-invul-aegis-whatever
4, the DH is a one trick pony… they are either medi trap or full trap (or condi… but God’s help is needed for you to beat a condi guard if you have issues with a standard DH…). Full trap is a piece of kitten absolutely weak and the only purpose is to beat a single idiot. Meditrapper is a bit trickier but they only use 2-3 traps.
If you have issues because some of the DH traps’ effects ARE invisible then you can find other forum posts to complain and I’m pretty sure ANET is aware of this problem.
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/facepalm
another one…
OK, so here it is:
1, if you see a Guardian on a point you know there are traps!
Stating the obvious, still a inherit problem with the design you cannot admit
2, you can activate them by minions (means dead DH)
And how many classes have that now?
3, you can counterplay it with stability-block-invul-aegis-whatever
Everybody has that right?
4, the DH is a one trick pony… they are either medi trap or full trap (or condi… but God’s help is needed for you to beat a condi guard if you have issues with a standard DH…). Full trap is a piece of kitten absolutely weak and the only purpose is to beat a single idiot. Meditrapper is a bit trickier but they only use 2-3 traps.
Its fine as long as it is one a trick pony since it only needs one trick to kill you? U wot m8
Obvious DH player
Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard. DH could do with a nerf, but not in a vacuum. Scrapper defense/offense, condi Reaper auto corrupts and chill damage, and some aspects of Druid/pets are even more pressing issues.
Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard.
Yes some elites are really strong, but still most of them can be countered in some way, dh is just luck of the draw and specific class abilities.
I lold while reading this post. My 2 month old kitten knows enough to not walk into a trap. Sorry I can’t take this guy seriously with such an aggressive attitude.
Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard.
Yes some elites are really strong, but still most of them can be countered in some way, dh is just luck of the draw and specific class abilities.
What class/build do you play? Most folks are having more trouble vs a scrapper or a druid than a DH. Have you tried spending some time in a 1v1 arena going at it with a DH friend? It might help a lot if you haven’t.
If you’re constantly getting your butt kicked by DHs, adjust your build. It’s really that simple.
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@Dreddful:
No I’m not a DH player I actually prefer Burn Guardian builds. So I had to learn all these counter things while playing against my favourite class. There are many counterplay!
It’s up to you if you try to find them as I did or complain on forums…
Note: dealing with a DH can be a really harsh experience at first time…
But please trust me:
with time you get better chance!
with lots of time you gonna wreck every single DH so they go out of meta again where they’ve never been AT ALL.
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As much as I wanna say get good when fighting a DH, I can’t.
I’ve started playing DH lately, and yes, people stay off point and pewpew thinking “As if I’m gonna walk onto point and get nuked” but little do they know I have my traps off point on route to point… Due to trap mechanics, I have 4 traps on the ground and 3 off cool down, if they don’t want to walk onto my static traps, then I f2 ontop of them with immobilise trait, hammer 5 (ring of warding) and drop all traps onto them where they can’t escape, followed up by a banish and pull through the trap that does damage for crossing it which in marauder gear will equal roughly 8k damage on it’s own if you don’t have stab available.
You would have to have an extra chromosome in you if you played DH and just sat on point with traps without using any timed pulls or repositioning for trap bursts…
I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.
….. And Elementalist.
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Tbh I target the DH in my pvp matches. You can stomp his blocks and stay off his traps making him an easy kill.
Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard.
Yes some elites are really strong, but still most of them can be countered in some way, dh is just luck of the draw and specific class abilities.
What class/build do you play? Most folks are having more trouble vs a scrapper or a druid than a DH. Have you tried spending some time in a 1v1 arena going at it with a DH friend? It might help a lot if you haven’t.
Literally nothing else in the game, maybe really bursty assassins that are exceptional at their job are the only thing I i might die from sometimes. But nothing 1v1 since I mostly 1v2
Tbh I target the DH in my pvp matches. You can stomp his blocks and stay off his traps making him an easy kill.
Stomp his blocks stay off his traps……. u wot m8? Gotta stay of tha tpoint in conquest broooooo, no need to cap :^)
Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard.
Yes some elites are really strong, but still most of them can be countered in some way, dh is just luck of the draw and specific class abilities.
What class/build do you play? Most folks are having more trouble vs a scrapper or a druid than a DH. Have you tried spending some time in a 1v1 arena going at it with a DH friend? It might help a lot if you haven’t.
Literally nothing else in the game, maybe really bursty assassins that are exceptional at their job are the only thing I i might die from sometimes. But nothing 1v1 since I mostly 1v2
But what class/build are you using? There might be class-specific tips people could help you with, but as an above poster said, practice and time will help tremendously.
Tbh I target the DH in my pvp matches. You can stomp his blocks and stay off his traps making him an easy kill.
Stomp his blocks stay off his traps……. u wot m8? Gotta stay of tha tpoint in conquest broooooo, no need to cap :^)
Clearly stated. Shutdown his blocks with an unblockable. The trap will not generally cover the entire capture point. Nor can he maintain a trap on point indefinitely if he wants to burst you down (as is your complaint in the title). What are you doing while all this is going on? If you’re doing it right he should be dead by the time he realizes his traps failed.
Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard.
Yes some elites are really strong, but still most of them can be countered in some way, dh is just luck of the draw and specific class abilities.
What class/build do you play? Most folks are having more trouble vs a scrapper or a druid than a DH. Have you tried spending some time in a 1v1 arena going at it with a DH friend? It might help a lot if you haven’t.
Literally nothing else in the game, maybe really bursty assassins that are exceptional at their job are the only thing I i might die from sometimes. But nothing 1v1 since I mostly 1v2
But what class/build are you using? There might be class-specific tips people could help you with, but as an above poster said, practice and time will help tremendously.
Theres no point in listing, I have one class of each. I already listed the problems (some of tha tcan never go away due to mechanics i.e. placing a trap on a node) with DH but tbqh cba it just needs a nerf thats it, so silly it hasnt been done yet though.
Tbh I target the DH in my pvp matches. You can stomp his blocks and stay off his traps making him an easy kill.
Stomp his blocks stay off his traps……. u wot m8? Gotta stay of tha tpoint in conquest broooooo, no need to cap :^)
Clearly stated. Shutdown his blocks with an unblockable. The trap will not generally cover the entire capture point. Nor can he maintain a trap on point indefinitely if he wants to burst you down (as is your complaint in the title). What are you doing while all this is going on? If you’re doing it right he should be dead by the time he realizes his traps failed.
Aaaaand he will just place new ones once again due to CDs start couunting down after placing a trap. Also unblockable attaks? Do you even meta…
Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard.
Yes some elites are really strong, but still most of them can be countered in some way, dh is just luck of the draw and specific class abilities.
What class/build do you play? Most folks are having more trouble vs a scrapper or a druid than a DH. Have you tried spending some time in a 1v1 arena going at it with a DH friend? It might help a lot if you haven’t.
Literally nothing else in the game, maybe really bursty assassins that are exceptional at their job are the only thing I i might die from sometimes. But nothing 1v1 since I mostly 1v2
But what class/build are you using? There might be class-specific tips people could help you with, but as an above poster said, practice and time will help tremendously.
Theres no point in listing, I have one class of each. I already listed the problems (some of tha tcan never go away due to mechanics i.e. placing a trap on a node) with DH but tbqh cba it just needs a nerf thats it, so silly it hasnt been done yet though.
Well, the only advice I can offer then is to change your stomp animation. Dragonhunters, by virtue of their name, will always have an advantage if you’re using your dragon rank finisher. I swapped mine to the dolyak finisher and have since been having great success.
Tbh I target the DH in my pvp matches. You can stomp his blocks and stay off his traps making him an easy kill.
Stomp his blocks stay off his traps……. u wot m8? Gotta stay of tha tpoint in conquest broooooo, no need to cap :^)
Clearly stated. Shutdown his blocks with an unblockable. The trap will not generally cover the entire capture point. Nor can he maintain a trap on point indefinitely if he wants to burst you down (as is your complaint in the title). What are you doing while all this is going on? If you’re doing it right he should be dead by the time he realizes his traps failed.
Aaaaand he will just place new ones once again due to CDs start couunting down after placing a trap. Also unblockable attaks? Do you even meta…
You don’t seem to have been playing the game if you’re not up to date on unblockable. Really it seems this is your first day in pvp and you got roflstomped and are raging.
You haven’t told us what you’re playing, only complained. Sorry to say it but learn to play and quit whining buddy. GLHF
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Tbh I target the DH in my pvp matches. You can stomp his blocks and stay off his traps making him an easy kill.
Stomp his blocks stay off his traps……. u wot m8? Gotta stay of tha tpoint in conquest broooooo, no need to cap :^)
Clearly stated. Shutdown his blocks with an unblockable. The trap will not generally cover the entire capture point. Nor can he maintain a trap on point indefinitely if he wants to burst you down (as is your complaint in the title). What are you doing while all this is going on? If you’re doing it right he should be dead by the time he realizes his traps failed.
Aaaaand he will just place new ones once again due to CDs start couunting down after placing a trap. Also unblockable attaks? Do you even meta…
You don’t seem to have been playing the game if you’re not up to date on unblockable. Really it seems this is your first day in pvp and you got roflstomped and are raging.
You haven’t told us what you’re playing, only complained. Sorry to say it but learn to play and quit whining buddy. GLHF
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Here you go for refreshment. Sick burn brah. And I told you, I play most classes.
DH is not strong…. there will be no DH’s in the ESL finals nor in the upcoming league games.
Traps are decent, but in terms of weapons, the only thing useful is the LB, which gets hardcountered into oblivion by way too many top-builds. Even the Traps have some serious hardcounters within the top metabuilds.
If you constantly loose against DH’s, why not run one of the many builds that crushes it, if no1 in your team wants to play anything but reaper? -.-°
Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard.
Yes some elites are really strong, but still most of them can be countered in some way, dh is just luck of the draw and specific class abilities.
What class/build do you play? Most folks are having more trouble vs a scrapper or a druid than a DH. Have you tried spending some time in a 1v1 arena going at it with a DH friend? It might help a lot if you haven’t.
Literally nothing else in the game, maybe really bursty assassins that are exceptional at their job are the only thing I i might die from sometimes. But nothing 1v1 since I mostly 1v2
But what class/build are you using? There might be class-specific tips people could help you with, but as an above poster said, practice and time will help tremendously.
Theres no point in listing, I have one class of each. I already listed the problems (some of tha tcan never go away due to mechanics i.e. placing a trap on a node) with DH but tbqh cba it just needs a nerf thats it, so silly it hasnt been done yet though.
Well, the only advice I can offer then is to change your stomp animation. Dragonhunters, by virtue of their name, will always have an advantage if you’re using your dragon rank finisher. I swapped mine to the dolyak finisher and have since been having great success.
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Funny joke though. But pls guess my real rank, you have one guess, I’ll tell you if you get it right…
/facepalm
another one…
OK, so here it is:
1, if you see a Guardian on a point you know there are traps!
Stating the obvious, still a inherit problem with the design you cannot admit
2, you can activate them by minions (means dead DH)
And how many classes have that now?
3, you can counterplay it with stability-block-invul-aegis-whatever
Everybody has that right?
4, the DH is a one trick pony… they are either medi trap or full trap (or condi… but God’s help is needed for you to beat a condi guard if you have issues with a standard DH…). Full trap is a piece of kitten absolutely weak and the only purpose is to beat a single idiot. Meditrapper is a bit trickier but they only use 2-3 traps.
Its fine as long as it is one a trick pony since it only needs one trick to kill you? U wot m8
Obvious DH player
Thief doesn’t. No stability. No aegis. One block..which DH has unblockable ranged attacks. So no, not everybody.
Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard.
Yes some elites are really strong, but still most of them can be countered in some way, dh is just luck of the draw and specific class abilities.
What class/build do you play? Most folks are having more trouble vs a scrapper or a druid than a DH. Have you tried spending some time in a 1v1 arena going at it with a DH friend? It might help a lot if you haven’t.
Literally nothing else in the game, maybe really bursty assassins that are exceptional at their job are the only thing I i might die from sometimes. But nothing 1v1 since I mostly 1v2
But what class/build are you using? There might be class-specific tips people could help you with, but as an above poster said, practice and time will help tremendously.
Theres no point in listing, I have one class of each. I already listed the problems (some of tha tcan never go away due to mechanics i.e. placing a trap on a node) with DH but tbqh cba it just needs a nerf thats it, so silly it hasnt been done yet though.
Well, the only advice I can offer then is to change your stomp animation. Dragonhunters, by virtue of their name, will always have an advantage if you’re using your dragon rank finisher. I swapped mine to the dolyak finisher and have since been having great success.
Rank=/=Skill
Funny joke though. But pls guess my real rank, you have one guess, I’ll tell you if you get it right…
Based solely on probability, dragon rank!
The biggest point that isn’t being addressed is that too many players stand on a point, drop traps and stick to range. Once you go below 50% health they swap to Great sword and fire off channel block via virtue. The build doesn’t develop the player to any degree and reinforces lazy design. That is the number one reason people want it gone. It supports lack of creativity and doesn’t develop the game or player for the future. Eventually if it changes there will be a swag of players who are all now easy kills because the game didn’t progress them to something more efficient.
/facepalm
another one…
OK, so here it is:
1, if you see a Guardian on a point you know there are traps!
Stating the obvious, still a inherit problem with the design you cannot admit
2, you can activate them by minions (means dead DH)
And how many classes have that now?
3, you can counterplay it with stability-block-invul-aegis-whatever
Everybody has that right?
4, the DH is a one trick pony… they are either medi trap or full trap (or condi… but God’s help is needed for you to beat a condi guard if you have issues with a standard DH…). Full trap is a piece of kitten absolutely weak and the only purpose is to beat a single idiot. Meditrapper is a bit trickier but they only use 2-3 traps.
Its fine as long as it is one a trick pony since it only needs one trick to kill you? U wot m8
Obvious DH player
Thief doesn’t. No stability. No aegis. One block..which DH has unblockable ranged attacks. So no, not everybody.
Shadow Step in, Shadow Return out. Also, don’t 1v1 on Thief. It is not your job.
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Shrug
DH is OP but so is almost every other elite spec. DH isn’t even the biggest offender in that regard. DH could do with a nerf, but not in a vacuum. Scrapper defense/offense, condi Reaper auto corrupts and chill damage, and some aspects of Druid/pets are even more pressing issues.
If everything is op, wouldn’t that mean there is a balance there? Or rather none of it is op?
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Most DH will drop all their traps on 1 place. Double dodge through and you can kill his glassy kitten .
imo, DH is the last class I have problems with.
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If you honestly have more trouble with DH than any other elite spec, then it’s just an L2P issue. Sorry.
So when is the nerf?
Was in the January 26th patch; they nerfed the damage and halved the daze effect (which requires a trait) just for handicaped brains. Aparently, not enough for the average level of baddies in this game.
Yo Dreddful if everybody says DH is fine dont you think maybe they’re right and you should focus more on learning how to fight DHs?
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Since you’re not telling us what what your class or build is.. I’ll tell you which classes running meta builds have issues with DH.
The list is quite extensive so, sorry for tl;dr.
War, Thief, and Mesmer.
Every other class either obliterates DH in 1v1, or it’s a 50/50 matchup at best. If you’re having issues with DH Traps (a niche 1v1 build, fyi) then it’s a big L2P on your part.
PS
Yes I know pro thieves.. some of yall can pwn us 1v1.. what ever.. most thieves are ez in tpvp so I added yall!
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Since you’re not telling us what what your class or build is.. I’ll tell you which classes running meta builds have issues with DH.
The list is quite extensive so, sorry for tl;dr.
War, Thief, and Mesmer.
Every other class either obliterates DH in 1v1, or it’s a 50/50 matchup at best. If you’re having issues with DH Traps (a niche 1v1 build, fyi) then it’s a big L2P on your part.
PS
Yes I know pro thieves.. some of yall can pwn us 1v1.. what ever.. most thieves are ez in tpvp so I added yall!
Mercenary warrs and condi mesms (which are prob their most used builds now) can beat DHs too
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Guardian traps are overpowered. It’s insane ground CC, with damage, and large area of action. Stacked together these hold in place not one player, but all players caught, for a long period of time. Combine these together, add power creep damage from other players, stack some conditions to them, and they are all dead soon, after being held in place. Why?! Because they tried to not loose points.
CC will one day kill this game PvP (as small as it is), just like it killed PvP in WoW (where Blizz still works on removing another huge amount of CC) or other MMO games. If you do not believe me, ask their players, or check their forums, or watch their videos of PvP.
All DragonHunters feel free to comment. I understand you, I am glad you have fun with your builds, but try to see things the other way around. This is not balance. This is not esports.
This is just my opinion, feel free to love me, hate me, or ignore me.
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Necro wells are OP too? They cover the point, unblockable, boon corrupt, affected by Death Perception, AoE protection and unblockable life leech. Oh, and you can use them ranged as pay-off for not being able to “double” them by afking on point (note that this is bad for your team)
M I L K B O I S
Since you’re not telling us what what your class or build is.. I’ll tell you which classes running meta builds have issues with DH.
The list is quite extensive so, sorry for tl;dr.
War, Thief, and Mesmer.
Every other class either obliterates DH in 1v1, or it’s a 50/50 matchup at best. If you’re having issues with DH Traps (a niche 1v1 build, fyi) then it’s a big L2P on your part.
PS
Yes I know pro thieves.. some of yall can pwn us 1v1.. what ever.. most thieves are ez in tpvp so I added yall!Mercenary warrs and condi mesms (which are prob their most used builds now) can beat DHs too
I was speaking of TPvP viability builds instead of solo 1v1 builds :P But thanks for strengthening my point otherwise!
Guardian traps are overpowered. It’s insane ground CC, with damage, and large area of action. Stacked together these hold in place not one player, but all players caught, for a long period of time. Combine these together, add power creep damage from other players, stack some conditions to them, and they are all dead soon, after being held in place. Why?! Because they tried to not loose points.
CC will one day kill this game PvP (as small as it is), just like it killed PvP in WoW (where Blizz still works on removing another huge amount of CC) or other MMO games. If you do not believe me, ask their players, or check their forums, or watch their videos of PvP.
All DragonHunters feel free to comment. I understand you, I am glad you have fun with your builds, but try to see things the other way around. This is not balance. This is not esports.
This is just my opinion, feel free to love me, hate me, or ignore me.
I agree to an extent that the CC in the game needs to be toned down a hair. That included every other class and not just DH. It’s one of the reason why most Core specs are under performing (under performing by lots) compared to elite specs.
However, Trap DH (purification, 2 utility traps and Maw elite) is a noob man’s build… It under performs in 1v1 compared to Trap Medi and is incredibly easy to use compared to medi variant (purification, ToF trap and not Maw). If Maw miss’s, that DH is without an Elite. A team can only run full trap Guard if that DH knows how to survive and actually pull off his AoE traps. It’s like Burn Guardian prepatch, people will eventually understand how to read the DH’s niche traps and not get caught by the whirlies.
Unless a DH comes in to +1 a team and you’re unaware of his trap bursts, have 0 cds, etc, sure… DH is strong… Just like any other burst class that comes in to +1 pew pew.
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DH is not strong…. there will be no DH’s in the ESL finals nor in the upcoming league games.
kek just watch and learn you’re in for a sweet surprise
/facepalm
another one…
OK, so here it is:
1, if you see a Guardian on a point you know there are traps!
Stating the obvious, still a inherit problem with the design you cannot admit
2, you can activate them by minions (means dead DH)
And how many classes have that now?
3, you can counterplay it with stability-block-invul-aegis-whatever
Everybody has that right?
4, the DH is a one trick pony… they are either medi trap or full trap (or condi… but God’s help is needed for you to beat a condi guard if you have issues with a standard DH…). Full trap is a piece of kitten absolutely weak and the only purpose is to beat a single idiot. Meditrapper is a bit trickier but they only use 2-3 traps.
Its fine as long as it is one a trick pony since it only needs one trick to kill you? U wot m8
Obvious DH player
Thief doesn’t. No stability. No aegis. One block..which DH has unblockable ranged attacks. So no, not everybody.
Shadow Step in, Shadow Return out. Also, don’t 1v1 on Thief. It is not your job.
Shadow return is able to be interrupted. What If my shadow step is infiltrators signet? What if am the most skilled player in my team and currently carrying them? I will try living in this world where I have set skills, set traits, no diversity builds and only back cap and stand on nodes where no action is and be a +1.
If someone is trying to take a node, and you’re the closest, it is your job to hinder/stop that. Either until the ‘the team dedicated anti dragon hunter’ comes to the party or otherwise.
It’s asinine to play a pvp game where a profession is dictated to so severely about what they allowed to do and what their job is. I am just gonna guess here, but I can imagine your that guy raging on vent that the thief just downed someone and stopped a capture when they should have been your +1 in 2 v 2 on mid.
/facepalm
another one…
OK, so here it is:
1, if you see a Guardian on a point you know there are traps!
Stating the obvious, still a inherit problem with the design you cannot admit
2, you can activate them by minions (means dead DH)
And how many classes have that now?
3, you can counterplay it with stability-block-invul-aegis-whatever
Everybody has that right?
4, the DH is a one trick pony… they are either medi trap or full trap (or condi… but God’s help is needed for you to beat a condi guard if you have issues with a standard DH…). Full trap is a piece of kitten absolutely weak and the only purpose is to beat a single idiot. Meditrapper is a bit trickier but they only use 2-3 traps.
Its fine as long as it is one a trick pony since it only needs one trick to kill you? U wot m8
Obvious DH player
Thief doesn’t. No stability. No aegis. One block..which DH has unblockable ranged attacks. So no, not everybody.
Shadow Step in, Shadow Return out. Also, don’t 1v1 on Thief. It is not your job.
Shadow return is able to be interrupted. What If my shadow step is infiltrators signet? What if am the most skilled player in my team and currently carrying them? I will try living in this world where I have set skills, set traits, no diversity builds and only back cap and stand on nodes where no action is and be a +1.
If someone is trying to take a node, and you’re the closest, it is your job to hinder/stop that. Either until the ‘the team dedicated anti dragon hunter’ comes to the party or otherwise.
It’s asinine to play a pvp game where a profession is dictated to so severely about what they allowed to do and what their job is. I am just gonna guess here, but I can imagine your that guy raging on vent that the thief just downed someone and stopped a capture when they should have been your +1 in 2 v 2 on mid.
People still use Vent?
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Hmm for me DH is one of the easiest classes to beat and i have 13k HP on my ele …
Hard one, wanna know why? the pros obviously don’t care about DH, it’s just a build commonly used by noobs to stomp other noobs. I don’t see why one noob should be better then the other but that’s just my 2 cents. Another thing however that would GREATLY improve DH is to make the duration of the trap shorter.
Reason: I like to get beaten by people I can SEE, I dont wanna lose half my hp bar because I stepped on a trap belonging to a DH that’s already long gone. It creates a super annoying random element that isn’t and can’t be desirable.
I agree that DH is strong if you play against less trained players. As soon as your oponent has learned his class and is able to position and play reactive the DH is not such a threat. Then the DH has to play smart himself or will perish.
A skilled DH makes for a win against most melee classes. After a few games you know that guy is going to try to block through, distort through or evade through. I notice it only depends on what you are trying to kill a DH with. If it’s a thief, warrior or revenant there isnt much you can do for a counter, it’s mostly dodge/block or stab through it. While you can make it through the trap, you skill have to kill the DH while you have low health, and you will take damage. So I figure it’s like this:
If killing the DH requires you to trigger a trap on yourself, then you are probably going to lose.
If you can out range the DH or use summons to trigger traps, then you can win it.
It’s first an issue of class matchup and THEN a matter of clever play. If you have a hard-countered class, you can definately do things like fake a push to a point to force them to use their traps on a non-fight, or just harass them before they get to mid so they will have to wait forever to effectively +1.
Is it so hard to dodge across the traps?
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A good doge back helps a lot. Also i go in with stability and protection ready if needed. But i am at a huge advantage. Its that class thing. I can fight ranged and disable his longbow. My preassure is high enough to force him off point from range and if he knees down for a true shot hes propably dead because i wait for that and reflect the shot.
The best bet for him is swap meele and jump on me droping the traps close (Which i usualy dodge ….). A good DH is a longer fight unless hes a glass build. Its always fine to have a good fight. A well played DH (Medi trapper usually) with paladin amulet is a solid PvP class. As side effect it destroys less skilled players.
DH is not strong…. there will be no DH’s in the ESL finals nor in the upcoming league games.
kek just watch and learn you’re in for a sweet surprise
wanna bet 10 gold we’ll see no DH on saturday in the finals?
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