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Dueling for Gold
I would love it. You could make it a learning experience as well as a challenging one. Plus adding a spectating / betting feature on top of it could make for a pretty good experience.
IMHO ANet really needs to reflect on their approach to PVP, their stern attitude truly cripples their options. 1v1s, 2v2s, 3v3s, 10v10v10s, all the usual PVP modes… The fighting gameplay in GW2 is so great, yet they do not manage to make it shine or expand it, because of their concerns about balance or matchmaking or whatever…
Just offer game modes already, don’t think too much about it, and make sure to provide proper and easy access to players (unlike what you did with Courtyard and 2v2s, which cannot be played even by a willing player). You’ll draw so many players in the end, it’ll be easy to collect data and adjust accordingly, it’ll create full a positive feedback loop… unlike the current state of PvP.
Please! Or at least talk to us. Sure, the forums are full of immature and angry people, but there are also players willing to listen and provide feedback… and maybe the problems you think you have… are not really problems (no offense).
I agree in that! Duells will be great aditional pvp content.
People can finaly practice 1 on 1 and i my self really love duells.
If ANet implaments duells with additional option to duell for gold… PvP players will love them for that.
Im veteran wow player and left because in legion there is no more duells because it is immbalanced!
In GW2 ANet should make additional large place in pvp lobby specific for duells ( i meant right clinking other players portrait and ask for duell).
I would love it. You could make it a learning experience as well as a challenging one. Plus adding a spectating / betting feature on top of it could make for a pretty good experience.
IMHO ANet really needs to reflect on their approach to PVP, their stern attitude truly cripples their options. 1v1s, 2v2s, 3v3s, 10v10v10s, all the usual PVP modes… The fighting gameplay in GW2 is so great, yet they do not manage to make it shine or expand it, because of their concerns about balance or matchmaking or whatever…
Just offer game modes already, don’t think too much about it, and make sure to provide proper and easy access to players (unlike what you did with Courtyard and 2v2s, which cannot be played even by a willing player). You’ll draw so many players in the end, it’ll be easy to collect data and adjust accordingly, it’ll create full a positive feedback loop… unlike the current state of PvP.
Please! Or at least talk to us. Sure, the forums are full of immature and angry people, but there are also players willing to listen and provide feedback… and maybe the problems you think you have… are not really problems (no offense).
I agree, but too bad they only respond when someone is bugged. I really don’t know why they don’t discuss with us on what we would like to have in the game… I mean they depend on us, so they should behave like it.
There will be no balancing issues, since everyone can choose the class they want to duel.
There would be massive balancing issues, ignoring them by only playing classes that are strong and avoiding weak classes doesn’t change that.
There will be no balancing issues, since everyone can choose the class they want to duel.
There would be massive balancing issues, ignoring them by only playing classes that are strong and avoiding weak classes doesn’t change that.
You don’t get it I see. Nobody would force you to duel classes you find “counterish”, therefore the balancing issue is ‘fixed’
Go to a dueling server? There are a few of them out there.
I post from a phone so please excuse any references to ducks or any other auto corrections.
There will be no balancing issues, since everyone can choose the class they want to duel.
There would be massive balancing issues, ignoring them by only playing classes that are strong and avoiding weak classes doesn’t change that.
You don’t get it I see. Nobody would force you to duel classes you find “counterish”, therefore the balancing issue is ‘fixed’
No dear, you apparently don’t understand what balance means, balance would in terms of your “counters” would mean every class having a similar number of counters, that won’t happen, because the game is not balanced or designed for 1v1 duelling, you will simply have certain classes that are way stronger at it than others, being able to choose those stronger classes does not constitute balance.
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No dear, you apparently don’t understand what balance means, balance would in terms of your “counters” would mean every class having a similar number of counters, that won’t happen, because the game is not balanced or designed for 1v1 duelling, you will simply have certain classes that are way stronger at it than others, being able to choose those stronger classes does not constitute balance.
I think you missed the intent of the OP, so I’ll put an illustration below. It’s not necessarily what the OP has in mind, just an example.
You register yourself (e.g. queue) as a Marauder Ele. You indicate you want to fight Marauder Ele only. The system finds you a match, and you fight. You indicate that you want to fight either Marauder Ele or Demolisher War. Same thing. You indicate that want to fight without restrictions. Same thing.
So basically, the point is to find a partner which fulfills the criteria you have set up, and to duel. There’s no ladder or whatever, just a bet to spice things up (if you like). You don’t want to fight a certain class or amulet? You tick/untick some checkbox, and there you go.
That’s all there is to it really, it’s the same as duel servers with their rules, except the rules are enforced by the system, and you can bet gold. The server can even track your record against certain class/amulet, and try its hand at some matchmaking to give better fights. Or you can have players kitten their opponent manually… or whatever.
We all know that the game is balanced for 5v5 Conquest – but the step further is to disregard that, and say “so what”. PvP can be competitive (that’s the structured part of it), and it can be lot of other things (understand: other modes). WvW is the most unbalanced thing ever, yet it has hundreds of players in it every day.
inb4 90% of the people are chrono
The game is not balanced around 1v1 combat. You would have to ban many elites from the game and some classes have none that are balanced for 1v1s. Have you been to a duel server? It’s almost always at least half thieves and mesmers because you can build to stall for time and just slowly pick apart your target. Stealth is just easy to abuse if you’re not built to counter it.
Dealing with that can turn you into a salty mofo real easily – believe me I know. Setting up a bunch of limitations will just bog down the mode to the point where hardly anyone will play. Many seem to duel purely just to be a pain and if you limit it they’ll just ignore the official mode and go back to custom servers.
I’d be for a 2v2 or 3v3 arena mode however. That being said the success of that would ride very heavily on map design.
Just an angry old man…
Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)
Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)
Guys please read 1st post before replying with ‘balancing’ issues. Just like Elegie.3620 said, you would choose your opponents and rules. For instance, if you are playing Elementalist, nobody would force you to duel a Mesmer. You would simply uncheck Mesmer from the filters and proceed.
I really don’t know why you gotta keep complaining about the balance. Simple 1v1 Dueling with filters (without ranking leaderboards, or some separate leaderboard), would only bring good to the game:
For instance, you would be able to play against the same classes and perfect your build, and on top of that you earn some extra gold.
Dueling for gold will never be implemented because of one reason: gold sellers. It would be far too easy a way for sellers to transfer their gold to buyers by simply setting up a duel, betting a humongous amount of gold on the match, and then intentionally losing so the money gets transferred to the buyer. Sure, such huge sums being transferred would be a definite red flag and the accounts involved would get banned, but that’s more oversight for ANet to handle. The gold sellers don’t care; they’ll just use another bought/stolen account if they get banned.
I love dueling, prefer to do it in Lion’s Arch with some body looked cool or you just would duel with your friends.