Guild Wars 2

For the record I don’t main a rev, tried it and seen it played from amber to legend league, from wvw roaming to huge zerg fights and honestly for me…they’re far from being the OP class that everybody likes to claim

I think that rev is nothing more than a flashy version of warrior in terms of threat and this are my reasons:

- Very obvious animations
- Extremely predictable patterns of attacks
- Limited ways to stunlock to death the enemy
- Incapable of 1hit KO combos
- Weak to condi pressure
- Can be catched

And the most important of them all
-Lacks Stealth
- Medium HP and no death shroud kind of mechanic

Personally , revs are not nearly as frustrating to fight as other people suggest, even the condi version wasn’t hard to fight head on (as long as it was a pure 1vs1)

It’s just fun how the idea of balance differ from person to person, I’d love to play a game without stealth and condi cheese spam, the closest thing was GW1 a gem of design excellence, I’d pay whatever for a game without : thief-mesmer-necro in it, type of class in it ^^

Well nvm this last part of my post, all I’ve wanted to say is that I hope the devs for once will push the nerf hammer in the direction of all that insta stealth/ranged condi spam cheese and don’t instead focus again their attention towards specs with easy to read animations

People who complain about revenant are the same people who complained about warrior in the past (and look where they are now). Yet im pretty sure they would get rekt 1v1 by warrior on their cutter cookie meta build.

- Very obvious animations

bruh?
old killshot,eviscerate, mirrorblade and true shot have obvious animations – revenant sword 2 and staff 5 aren’t obvious.

You can hit people in stealth. You can’t if they have evade frames on a lot of their skills. You should probably train against stealth builds, this looks like a personal issue of yours.

That being said, revenants hits too hard, and evades too much (most HoT builds share those characteristics), but it’s true that other builds are equally frustrating too fight against: scrapper with evade frames, blocks or reflects on most of their skill bar, builds with their perma protection, minions, bulk gyro and what not, lame flashy animations that are not proportional to the importance of the skill (DH), and passive condi application (frost aura on reaper ). Yes, rev needs a nerf in both sustain and damage, but at lest the concept beind the power build is rather enjoyable

Revenant is a package deal. You need to remember they have a ton of offensive support, intense boon spam and a full toolbox of defensives that, when managed correctly make it a nightmare to fight in both teamfights and solo. Fight a good rev that knows how to manage it’s cooldowns and resources properly and knows basic rotation in PVP and you’ll see why there is hate for them.

This is just a sarcasm post, guys u dont get it?

I remember the good times when CC was scarce and personal/team perma fury/swiftness/prot/high might needed good investment in runes traits and sigils and needed some work to maintain.

kitten Rev

-Surge of the mists
-Precicion strike
-Unrelenting assault (no, its not op, but no burst skill should be unavoidabale and uninterruptable)
-Riposting shadows
-Radiant revival
-Empty vessel
-Unwavering avoidance
-Versed in stone
To name only the best reasons, there are more tho.

They took over Warrior spot.

In other words, they took me jerb!

If you don’t think revenant is overpowered you have garbage MMR and have never seen a good rev. Simple as that.

Sykper.6583:

They took over Warrior spot.

In other words, they took me jerb!

Was dps warrior ever meta? Outside of bullrush combo? I remember soldier hambow, cele junk shoutbow.. but zerker war? Hmm.. not at all. If anything they took over thief spot.

Burtnik.5218:

People who complain about revenant are the same people who complained about warrior in the past (and look where they are now). Yet im pretty sure they would get rekt 1v1 by warrior on their cutter cookie meta build.

How about you don’t generalize. I never complained about warriors besides some buggy cheesy stuff that got fixed anyway. I have beaten countless warriors in 1v1. I do complain about revs and have very good reasons to do so. The class is overtuned for the sake of sales. The class took jobs from thieves/wars/guards. The devs lied us on the stream when they talked about thief balance because when they made rev they threw all that balancing logic out of the window and simply dumped everything they could think of into 1 class and now revs are walking middle finger to those classes.

Legend is flooded with revs, pro league would be flooded with revs (and it was before changes) if there was no class stacking rule. Class is fine… yeaah rrright. Even people that main revs in pro league say they are too strong.

Burtnik.5218:

Sykper.6583:

They took over Warrior spot.

In other words, they took me jerb!

Was dps warrior ever meta? Outside of bullrush combo? I remember soldier hambow, cele junk shoutbow.. but zerker war? Hmm.. not at all. If anything they took over thief spot.

Revs are guard/war/thief in one hence why there is no reason to bring any of them if you have rev.

Hammerguard.9834:

If you don’t think revenant is overpowered you have garbage MMR and have never seen a good rev. Simple as that.

Nothing that’s only strong in capable hands , can be considered OP. On the contrary something can be truly considered broken when anybody can reroll and become efficient with it within one day and that’s something I can gladly say it’s what happens now with : reaper-dragon hunters – chronocondi.

Badly played revs with poor reaction time, will just get killed almost instantly during teamfight, on the contrary everybody can press F1 and AA with a reaper or F5-f10(moa) on a chronocondi carried by that trait that re-supply illusions

Supreme.3164:

Hammerguard.9834:

If you don’t think revenant is overpowered you have garbage MMR and have never seen a good rev. Simple as that.

Nothing that’s only strong in capable hands , can be considered OP.

yes it can, because usually the game should be balanced around semi good-good players

this way dh may be broken due to its low skilllevel to be effective, without being op

Supreme.3164:

Hammerguard.9834:

If you don’t think revenant is overpowered you have garbage MMR and have never seen a good rev. Simple as that.

Nothing that’s only strong in capable hands , can be considered OP. On the contrary something can be truly considered broken when anybody can reroll and become efficient with it within one day and that’s something I can gladly say it’s what happens now with : reaper-dragon hunters – chronocondi.

Badly played revs with poor reaction time, will just get killed almost instantly during teamfight, on the contrary everybody can press F1 and AA with a reaper or F5-f10(moa) on a chronocondi carried by that trait that re-supply illusions

It is actually not that hard to do decent on rev. Just takes couple days of practice really.

@Supreme, Stop making up rules for yourself on what is or isn’t OP. Revenant is OP. Any decent player knows it.

Cynz.9437:

Supreme.3164:

Hammerguard.9834:

If you don’t think revenant is overpowered you have garbage MMR and have never seen a good rev. Simple as that.

Nothing that’s only strong in capable hands , can be considered OP. On the contrary something can be truly considered broken when anybody can reroll and become efficient with it within one day and that’s something I can gladly say it’s what happens now with : reaper-dragon hunters – chronocondi.

Badly played revs with poor reaction time, will just get killed almost instantly during teamfight, on the contrary everybody can press F1 and AA with a reaper or F5-f10(moa) on a chronocondi carried by that trait that re-supply illusions

It is actually not that hard to do decent on rev. Just takes couple days of practice really.

Who do you think would win in a situation where you have 4 players, 2 will pick a rev each and other 2 will pick a reaper and a chronomancer; now put the two couples in opposite teams ( that offer same team comp)..which team do you think will win?

All I wanted to say with this thread is that rev has just 2-3 heavy hitter skills with distinct animation and casting time , this make them predictable and more easy to deal with respect to specs with insta cast never ending ranged aoe pressure with almost zero tell

Supreme.3164:

Who do you think would win in a situation where you have 4 players, 2 will pick a rev each and other 2 will pick a reaper and a chronomancer; now put the two couples in opposite teams ( that offer same team comp)..which team do you think will win?

Yup id take a necro and chronomancer vs 2 power revs anyway. Especially since revs are weak to condis.

Cynz.9437:

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The only thing rev replaced was thief, nothing else. War never worked well as zerker due to his poor desing, it was always gimmick outshined by other builds (basically thief been pushing out all zerker builds except guard for a whole 3 years while were at it)

If anything, war was replaced by ele/druid. Same goes for bunker guardian which was replaced by ele.

Even if we delete rev from the game, dh wont be used, war wont be used either. The only class that may benefit from removal of rev is thief and even then im not sure about it as druid has ridiculous ooc mobility with staff/gs.

Also if you ever bothered to take look at my document (and other posters here) you would notice that i proposed nerfs to Shiro mobility, his damage output in 1v1, surge, double stab on dodge etc. to bring rev in more healthy state but theres also a good amount of buffs to unused stuff obviously.

I basically agree with OP.

Rev/herald is basically a viable warrior ATM.

If it gets much more tuning (dunno if peeps choose not to remember all its nerfs or what) it’ll be a dead class very fast like warrior currently.

Scrapper, Mesmer, and Reapper are way more over tuned IMO. With a shout out to tempest’s absurd team support. (get it? shout out?)

I think all the current meta builds will need to be toned down in all honesty. The only thing i’d say needs to be fixed for rev is an uninterruptable burst skill and possibly some damage modifiers.

Ele’s probably need a nerf to elemental bastion, possibly removing the frost aura from it.

Rev is way too effective with marauder amulet, i can keep the point from getting decapped while 1v2 for a while for teamates to come as marauder amulet and still being a good ganker, good 1v1er, good group fighter..that’s too good