Guild Wars 2

Regardless of the game mode.

Signed the pvp player base.

I didn’t sign this…

I am a glass LB ranger. Even in team fights I don’t drop in 1 second (a really good blindsiding from a good mesmer is an exception). So I am guessing you’re a thief or this may be an issue of not understanding other classes mechanics.

Bunuka.3154:

I am a glass LB ranger. Even in team fights I don’t drop in 1 second (a really good blindsiding from a good mesmer is an exception). So I am guessing you’re a thief or this may be an issue of not understanding other classes mechanics.

No, it’s that there are THAT many more Mesmer’s running around trying to get a free lunch while they still can. Meanwhile, PvP and WvW are becoming less and less fun until the Dev’s real in the power creep.

I rekt myself with vapor form…

No seriously, I went against a mesmer and was dead before I used a skill, not even combat log could log anything

I do say, you might’ve gotten more by one person if you get killed in 0.5s – even more than two, considering what I have seen from some players (including myself) against at least 2 people. So either you are exaggerating, or you got focussed by at least three damaging roles without anyone from your team even bothering to peel for you.

Did you consider trying to WASD and binding your dodge-key again? And maybe get some active defense? I mean, if we are going to use hyperboles for the discussion, I might as well ask this

sephiroth.4217:

I rekt myself with vapor form…

No seriously, I went against a mesmer and was dead before I used a skill, not even combat log could log anything

Lol.

I think they are aware.

Hopefully after all the bugs are fixed, and we know the lay of the land, they will consider reducing damage a little across the board.

Bunuka.3154:

I am a glass LB ranger. Even in team fights I don’t drop in 1 second (a really good blindsiding from a good mesmer is an exception). So I am guessing you’re a thief or this may be an issue of not understanding other classes mechanics.

Or maybe because as a glass LB ranger you are not in the team fight most of the time but fighting from the side lines where you take less heat and it is harder to catch you by surprise.

When you are on point in amidst all the particle effects the odds of not seeing a tell and getting locked down and inst-killed (even on the tankiest builds) are much higher.

Julie Yann.5379:

Bunuka.3154:

I am a glass LB ranger. Even in team fights I don’t drop in 1 second (a really good blindsiding from a good mesmer is an exception). So I am guessing you’re a thief or this may be an issue of not understanding other classes mechanics.

Or maybe because as a glass LB ranger you are not in the team fight most of the time but fighting from the side lines where you take less heat and it is harder to catch you by surprise.

When you are on point in amidst all the particle effects the odds of not seeing a tell and getting locked down and inst-killed (even on the tankiest builds) are much higher.

100% of the rangers, regardless of build use signet of stone. When I see the bloody signet I stop harassing them because rangers are annoying. Once its gone though c:

I disagree with the OP.

Glass cannons drop fast as they should. More bunker type classes can stay along for a really long time. Look at all the complains about dd ele.

“Or maybe because as a glass LB ranger you are not in the team fight most of the time but fighting from the side lines where you take less heat and it is harder to catch you by surprise.

When you are on point in amidst all the particle effects the odds of not seeing a tell and getting locked down and inst-killed (even on the tankiest builds) are much higher. "

Thing is though, any ranger worth their salt is going to be in amongst the team fight, not up on a ledge unless their getting FF’d and using it defensively. You utilize the 9 sec stealth constantly. Only use SoS when you finally get locked down or for a rez on a teammate.

My concern is just mesmers atm, its actually put me of pvp entirely. I used to love it before the change usually ranked top of my team etc.
But now it seems all of the classes i actually enjoyed struggle something shocking against a mesmer. For example on my engi i just went to engage a mesmer, im not glass cannon and i was dead within a second, i couldnt even activate one skill. 28k damage, dead. Thats nothing short of kittened when you cant even defend yourself.

Krysin.7103:

My concern is just mesmers atm, its actually put me of pvp entirely. I used to love it before the change usually ranked top of my team etc.
But now it seems all of the classes i actually enjoyed struggle something shocking against a mesmer. For example on my engi i just went to engage a mesmer, im not glass cannon and i was dead within a second, i couldnt even activate one skill. 28k damage, dead. Thats nothing short of kittened when you cant even defend yourself.

y u no pop elixer S?

style.6173:

I disagree with the OP.

Glass cannons drop fast as they should. More bunker type classes can stay along for a really long time. Look at all the complains about dd ele.

Ahahaha! This one was fun!

Don’t compaire a Cele Ele with any other “tanky” class! Cele Ele is the only class after the patch that can “tank” anything. It’s like saying bug 1 can handle bug 2, if you wanna be tanky play bug 1.
I have tried a PVT – With Dolyak rune Engineer with mostly only CC skills and I got almost one shotted by a mesmer from stealth, if I didn’t have my Elixir S trait I would have died. I treid to get away to heal up but as soon as my skill was over I died. Now, let’s see a PVT- Dolyak rune anything should be able to survive for more than what OP says 0.5 seconds. Sadly I have no recorded evidence but going with other stuff than marauder or zerker is good to survive a little extra but builds that uses the “one-shot” mechanics still kills you in 0.5 seconds. PvP is totaly broken and it is far from as fun as before the patch in my opinion.

Cele Ele gets one shot by Mesmer too. I’m not complaining, just stating the fact. Ele has good sustain, but a coordinated burst from stealth of 2 Mesmers can drop any class.

Whats really laughable is the fact that so many “wannabe pros” rerolled to mesmer and r just spammin rupts here and there.

I hope they nerf mesmer a little bit. He was in a really good spot before patch and now it’s almost impossible to kill him before he kills you or before he disengages and i don’t think it’s a learn to l2p issue, everyone can see the extreme dmg from the screenshot posted above and there is no way to evade if you are stunned.

Krysin.7103:

My concern is just mesmers atm, its actually put me of pvp entirely. I used to love it before the change usually ranked top of my team etc.
But now it seems all of the classes i actually enjoyed struggle something shocking against a mesmer. For example on my engi i just went to engage a mesmer, im not glass cannon and i was dead within a second, i couldnt even activate one skill. 28k damage, dead. Thats nothing short of kittened when you cant even defend yourself.

Mesmers and eles are bonkers. But to fix them they need to overhaul them, take a look at their actual mechanics, not numbers, and Anet is never going to do that anymore.

Krysin.7103:

My concern is just mesmers atm, its actually put me of pvp entirely. I used to love it before the change usually ranked top of my team etc.
But now it seems all of the classes i actually enjoyed struggle something shocking against a mesmer. For example on my engi i just went to engage a mesmer, im not glass cannon and i was dead within a second, i couldnt even activate one skill. 28k damage, dead. Thats nothing short of kittened when you cant even defend yourself.

That is not a PU build there is no 6/6/6/6/6 build for mesmer hes also really squishy

YuiRS.8129:

Mesmers and eles are bonkers. But to fix them they need to overhaul them, take a look at their actual mechanics, not numbers, and Anet is never going to do that anymore.

Or just redo Confounding Suggestions a bit and mesmer will still be an amazing and fun class but half the people FOTMing it won’t know what to do anymore.
/shrug

Slapinator.4196:

I hope they nerf mesmer a little bit. He was in a really good spot before patch .

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

no it wasn’t.

skill requirement gone up alot, before you can play a dd or shoutbow be clueless and still be just as useful as a good player.

now if you have no idea you get insta reckt, i like it when the skill gap actually means something.

lighter.2708:

skill requirement gone up alot, before you can play a dd or shoutbow and be just as useful as a good player.

now if you have no idea you get insta reckt, i like it when the skill gap actually means something.

same. its rad. people are like ‘warrior rampage 3 shot me OP’ and they dont even know the skills on rampage, then you see they ate boulder which has a 1sec wind up. the clueless get owned.

I must admit I kinda like the new “explosive” meta.

Playing zerk, I was getting downed in like 3 hits before anyway, but now there aren’t as many fights that just involve sitting there applying DPS pressure like it’s PvE while some warrior or ele just goes through their heal-and-cleanse rotation while sitting on point.