Guild Wars 2

I am usually against QQing but… well this time I have to! I know that eles are crap these days… I used to kill anyone but now I feel like paper and not even one with sharp edges.

But the thing that bothers me the most is the racism against eles. When people see an ele in their team they will ask you to change, they will cry asking you to play something useful or they will quit! True story! When they see 3 necros (most of the teams have 3 of those, I don’t blame them…) or 3 guardians (you can be brain dead and still win) or engis (just run and spread death and chaos while auto healing) they are all like ye baby!

I have so many ele racism stories but I will share one that happen yesterday.

We do the first fight and there was no assisting everyone was dying so fast, still I was the last to die (yey!) and even resurrect a guy before I rest in peace :P Second fight me and some necro were fighting 2v2. The enemies were focusing me and I was running like a kitten! Still I don’t know how the necro gets downed, I rush to rez but I was out of stability… I lost him… then I manage to finish the guardian and downed the other guy but I was downed as well and some guy passed and finished me. When I spawned I see the chat and the necro was saying “Septer ele? You suck! I’ll go afk” and he did… oO

It doesn’t feel good when people blame you even for their own fails. And this is because as an ele you might play godly but still you are not good enough to kill a medium meta necro, engi, revenant, guardian etc. and everyone knows that. You can be the best in your team and if you loose the will say something like what I guy said today “we lost because of you eles, because you didn’t change to something useful”.

This is a first, while I feel for eles being thrust into the support role, the only time I would consider asking an ele to change is if we have too many.

Crimson Shi.5047:

This is a first, while I feel for eles being thrust into the support role, the only time I would consider asking an ele to change is if we have too many.

He’s playing scepter ele. So probably burst which is definitely a few steps below the meta spec.

what in the hell?

eles carry just about every match in this meta, if you’re being asked to change on ele you’re playing the class wrong.

Jaetara.4075:

And this is because as an ele you might play godly but still you are not good enough to kill a medium meta necro, engi, revenant, guardian etc. and everyone knows that.

So you’re admitting that scepter ele has no chance to beat the other 1v1 classes, so why do you bother playing it and putting your team at a disadvantage every time? Scrapper does everything better than a scepter ele.

Have to… fight those… WINDMILLS.

And if they fight back… well… Im just gonna call them all racists! Stupid windmills.

Btw, what does a build have to do with race?

Belial.9350:

Jaetara.4075:

And this is because as an ele you might play godly but still you are not good enough to kill a medium meta necro, engi, revenant, guardian etc. and everyone knows that.

So you’re admitting that scepter ele has no chance to beat the other 1v1 classes, so why do you bother playing it and putting your team at a disadvantage every time? Scrapper does everything better than a scepter ele.

and a focus ele does everything better than a mace guardian, what exactly is that suppose to prove?

I am a confirmed ele racist. Sorry guys. Old Guard habits never die. But now its even worse since the eles get to bunker and the guardian can’t. I will just sit in hotm whispering. God kitten Eles. Whenever one walks by. That’s all I can do now in this meta. :-(

Timston.1976:

I am a confirmed ele racist. Sorry guys. Old Guard habits never die. But now its even worse since the eles get to bunker and the guardian can’t. I will just sit in hotm whispering. God kitten Eles. Whenever one walks by. That’s all I can do now in this meta. :-(

To be fair ele isn’t a bunker as it can be burst down, it’s just a heal bot

Ele is not a race, therefore im not a racist.

Helly.2597:

Crimson Shi.5047:

This is a first, while I feel for eles being thrust into the support role, the only time I would consider asking an ele to change is if we have too many.

He’s playing scepter ele. So probably burst which is definitely a few steps below the meta spec.

Ugh might aswell afk with garbage like that on the team. Meta or go home.

Well i am a scepter ele myself and had neve been asked to change ^^. They luckily don´t know what i play. Scepter with wanderer XD. It performs very well. I am not the heal bot expected but i can still keep people alive. It strongly depends on the setup. Multiple necros are always a pain while thiefs, druids, guardians, scrappers are good matchups. Ele is stalemate and revenant and warrior depend on their skill and is mixed realy good beat me if not full zerker. But i change my setup if i see multiple necros …. I know my setup is not the best in necro world.

Darknicrofia.2604:

Belial.9350:

Jaetara.4075:

And this is because as an ele you might play godly but still you are not good enough to kill a medium meta necro, engi, revenant, guardian etc. and everyone knows that.

So you’re admitting that scepter ele has no chance to beat the other 1v1 classes, so why do you bother playing it and putting your team at a disadvantage every time? Scrapper does everything better than a scepter ele.

and a focus ele does everything better than a mace guardian, what exactly is that suppose to prove?

And nobody runs mace guardian because d/f ele does its role better, you just reinforced my point.

I got to legendary with mu ele help too… 100% you are in emerald or sapphire, and there almost every people are mindless..

First, who told you that I like to play bunker… I find it boring and easy, just not my style.

Second, even if you play bunker ele you cannot really kill ppl (only baddies), you can just put them to sleep out of boredom.

Third, I am stack in ruby since the first week… and ruby is now the new sapphire.

A dps ele at the moment is not rewarding because you need a good team to pull it off. With the build I play I can survive a lot, rez team mates, do some heals and decent dps if ppl are assisting and play as a team. But solo queuing is so random that you cannot have that, and even if you play bunker-healer you cannot help your team if it sucks.

My point is that ele cannot stand alone like other classes do, his performance and usefulness depends on the team and everyone knows that. This is why they are so harsh and unfair even if you play well.

p.s
Note, the ppl I play with are randoms they don’t know if I am good or not (me or any other ele). When they see 3 necros they won’t question them, they wont ask them to change. Because even if they are bad they can get carried by the class while eles cannot. Eles have to try really hard to achieve what others achieve without a sweat. And don’t tell me about the heals… we all know druid does that much better while his pet is wrecking you!

Everyone knows that ele should support the team, then why is that when I’m not playing my ele, somebody else plays it, he is a kitten n00b, really, in diamond and legendary too. 50% of the eles are n00bs, even in legendary! They often play solo, they let you team fight, while he fights 1vs1, while the other ele in enemy team is there in the team fights… but how did they get to diamond and legendary, is still a question to me..

LordOtto.2650:

Everyone knows that ele should support the team, then why is that when I’m not playing my ele, somebody else plays it, he is a kitten n00b, really, in diamond and legendary too. 50% of the eles are n00bs, even in legendary! They often play solo, they let you team fight, while he fights 1vs1, while the other ele in enemy team is there in the team fights… but how did they get to diamond and legendary, is still a question to me..

There are n00bs in every class the problem is that as an ele you cannot hide it, you need to move to dodge into perfection, you need to be aware of every little detail, one miss-click and it is hard to save it! Other classes have more chances and even if they are bad they can do stuff.

That’s why ppl get surprised when I do good and whisper me gg, wow good ele etc. Cause they expect you to be bad and this is the point of my thread! Not to qq because there is only one vital build for eles but to point out that ele is the hardest class to play and ppl know that, so they don’t like them.

I know… Distracted a moment, not swap/use right skill in time, go down, sowballs on team whiping and game lost …. And the ele gets blamed ^^.
Got some QQ ing when i did things right but not as expected. They do´t know that i am not standard ele and can do things like kill thief in a few seconds. Its very hard in solo Q because they don´t know i can take down nearly all power builds … I usually try to disengage a condi reaper unless i see hes bad.

Jaetara.4075:

I am usually against QQing but… well this time I have to! I know that eles are crap these days… I used to kill anyone but now I feel like paper and not even one with sharp edges.

WHAT? I play D/F auramancer ele and feel absolutely AWESOME. Best I’ve ever ever felt as an ele. You can heal your team mates, sustain yourself, AND deal some insane damage and CC. It is one of the best classes atm.

Jaetara.4075:

But the thing that bothers me the most is the racism against eles. When people see an ele in their team they will ask you to change, they will cry asking you to play something useful or they will quit! True story!

NOT true story. This is absolute utter nonsense. Since S2 of league, 95% of my matches I have played ele and not ONCE have I ever ever been asked to switch. I agree there are quite often 3 necros but this is absolute utter nonsense. I think you’ve been having a bad dream and think its real lol.

Jaetara.4075:

I have so many ele racism stories but I will share one that happen yesterday.

Sorry but even using the word ‘racism’ here is hilarious.

Jaetara.4075:

Second fight me and some necro were fighting 2v2. The enemies were focusing me and I was running like a kitten! Still I don’t know how the necro gets downed, I rush to rez but I was out of stability… I lost him… then I manage to finish the guardian and downed the other guy but I was downed as well and some guy passed and finished me. When I spawned I see the chat and the necro was saying “Septer ele? You suck! I’ll go afk” and he did… oO

Maybe try a different build… I def don’t see many scepter eles… you gotta be really clever with that Dragon’s Tooth to land any sort of decent damage.

Jaetara.4075:

It doesn’t feel good when people blame you even for their own fails. And this is because as an ele you might play godly but still you are not good enough to kill a medium meta necro, engi, revenant, guardian etc. and everyone knows that. You can be the best in your team and if you loose the will say something like what I guy said today “we lost because of you eles, because you didn’t change to something useful”.

Not true. End of. I can hold a node for minutes and eventually bring any sustained build down, or wait for team mates. I can also help massively win the first mid fight through insane attunement change heals and other ways to keep the team alive. Obsidian Flesh is just the best skill too for securing stomps/rezzes. If the other team don’t know to focus me first, we will win the mid fight. If they KNOW to focus me and kill me, the rest will fall like dominoes.

And, this isn’t me or my skill I am bigging up here, although you have to know when and where to do things, but its the BUILD. The build, is, amazing.

This comment in its entirety to me is utter, complete and utter nonsense.

Crimson Shi.5047:

This is a first, while I feel for eles being thrust into the support role, the only time I would consider asking an ele to change is if we have too many.

This would be the only reason, yes. And, this should be for any class.

One more fight that a necro (named Grëth) went afk before we even start just because we were 2 ele in the team and we didn’t have anything to change on. We lost against super easy enemies while we were really good, me and the other ele were keeping 3 and then 4 ppl for a long long time! Btw, I change to support now and when they see me they say oh another bunker ele, no dps… Ppl will never be happy.

Ah and Celine, you play d/f auramancer tempest, that is the meta, and from what I get you have a team. Yes with that build is much easier but if the enemies have a lot of cc you rarely manage to overload and you have very low hp so control can kill you. Still you have to play really good and focused and one mistake can lead to your death and domino as you said for your team. You have to be a good player, it is not easy and my point is when ppl don’t know if you are good or not they judge you badly for just being an ele.

Darknicrofia.2604:

what in the hell?

eles carry just about every match in this meta, if you’re being asked to change on ele you’re playing the class wrong.

More like, if he is being asked to change out of ele while being a single ele in the team, he ended up on a very bad team.
Now, of course he might be running some bad build, or just not be good playing ele, but at least the second part cannot be known to others before the game even starts.

Personally, i have been thanked many times for deciding to switch to ele after seeing the team composition.

The first question anyone on a team asks when they see the group has no ele and the other team has one is (or even if the other team doesn’t have one) “anyone got an ele to swap to?”

I call complete BS on OP’s story

Can we just get an infraction here for the OP. The troll in this is too strong.

Darknicrofia.2604:

The first question anyone on a team asks when they see the group has no ele and the other team has one is (or even if the other team doesn’t have one) “anyone got an ele to swap to?”

I call complete BS on OP’s story

In the last incident we were 2 ele in group. The necro went afk because either of us could change.

In my first story the necro (is there a patern here? lol ) gave up after the second fight and I was the only ele. He was very bad player he could even place his body properly but blamed the ele.

Anyways guys, if you think I am BS ok there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. But why to waste my time to post just to troll. I decided to discuss this after I got tired of that story. Maybe you haven’t player solo q much.

Jaetara.4075:

Anyways guys, if you think I am BS ok there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise.

I don’t think you’re BSing, i just think you had some really bad luck in teammates. Which seems to happen a lot this season.

Basically, the only reason why anyone might want ele to switch is if there were too many supports and not enough heavy hitters. And a single ele in a team is always appreciated, unless the ele is really bad or the team is dumb.

I love my elementalist/auramancer. It suits me. But, I don’t like to be in a party with another elementalist or another 2 elementalists.

Yesterday, I queued into a party that had 2 eles (myself and one other) and one player changed to his ele and made our party go with 3 eles. This cost us the match, I believe. I was very annoyed with that player who came in on one class, then looked at our party composition and switched to elementalist.

P.S. Oh, Wolfric, I’d love to know how you can take down power builds because I can’t and I’m jealous of you. Haha. Especially when it’s 1v2 or 1v3. Maybe I’m just bad or maybe I’m unlucky. Or both.

Sorry, I don’t know what world you live in, but in my world ele is crazy strong, and “every” esl player knows that… sure in a 1v1 or 2v2 an ele won’t do you much good, but it is essential in most team fights no matter what the enemy team comp is. I main ele, and I almost don’t ever swap unless there are more than 1 ele on my team, and I play both necro and engineer aswell, and I would pick an ele over a another necro anytime. Necs are just to brain dead and easy to counter atm. But this is just the opinion of another diamond player. Actually the only problem I have atm, I’d people who don’t know how to position or sustain themselves, claiming that they are dying because of my lack of heals… -.-" see that really fires me up, but what can you do..?