Guild Wars 2

A list of all elites in game :

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elite_skill

Will anything ever be done to fix this highly unfair situation? Ele players have been complaining about the lack of worthwhile elites since launch, for a short time a bunch of people were happy with a couple of them because of a couple of exploit that have been fixed with time and now all we have is 3 skills that barely would deserve an utility status…let alone an elite status.

Tornado

- slow movement
- low damage
- no defenses
- pointless “benefits”[can a dev explain me what’s the point in having a lightning field ?]

How can a thief spinning on himself being able to reflect projectiles when a tornado can’t?..no logic whatsoever, but more than anything else where is the damage?

Without doubt the worst transform elite

-Plague form add toughness and vitality, blind opponents and applies poison

- Lich form does amazing damage, add vitality

- Rampage as one, grants : swiftness, stability and fury

- Rampage reduce dmg, condi duration, applies swiftness, stability, gain access to powerful 5 skills including : knockback, knockdown, rush and all the skill have high dmg coefficient….and this elite also increase vitality.

How this can even be possible? Why tornado suck so much by comparison?

Conjurer Fiery great sword

-Pointless as all conjure skills

No apparent major benefit from using a conjure and this is extended to FGS, this elite requires complete redesign along with all other conjures

Glyph of elemental

-Fire elemental does mediocre dmg and will die in a couple of hits, not worth anywhere outside a single 1vs1 against below average opponents who won’t bother to 2 shot the elemental

-Water elemental will die before applying any heal, huge casting time animation on the knockback and heal, die anyway in a couple of hit

-Air elemental does very low dmg, would need a little push in this aspect , all in all not the worst one, because it’s ranged and that’s good

-Earth elemental , extremely low dmg, the effects have small radius and don’t do simply enough for the effort

Really hope for a fair treatment , almost three years and no response despite the dozen of threads with multiple suggestions

Supreme.3164:

A list of all elites in game :

How this can even be possible? Why tornado suck so much by comparison?

Because we have the highest health pool and armor out of all profs.

Solution: Nerf all other elites in the game (or delete them all)

Horrible “I win” buttons for most professions, bad design, made to give casual players some wow feeling, rarely an actual part in any build… I hate them.

Well anet is buffing/reworking guardians’ tomes. Maybe FGS and tornado will get the same treatment.

Well it’s been three years already, we can wait another year or two.

Wile.5024:

Solution: Nerf all other elites in the game (or delete them all)

Horrible “I win” buttons for most professions, bad design, made to give casual players some wow feeling, rarely an actual part in any build… I hate them.

While I can agree with your idea, given the fact that these “I win” buttons are in game and won’t go anywhere…then all professions should have access to at least one Iwin elite

Funny that you mention fiery greatsword. As necromancer i would actually trade it for any elite that necromancer have, just for the mobility it gives (the rest is rather mehh). But i guess you dont value the mobility that high…

On the other elites i probably agree with you though…

Played about 6 rounds this evening on my bunker Necro (won 5 of them) and despite holding against more 1v2 and 1v3 than I can count before support came, it was only a duel that ended up with someone neutralizing the point.

A silly Elementalist running in as a tornado.

But yeah it sucks and no Ele should ever use it on point in sPvP. Dont even try it. Really, dont.

It would be nice to have Glyph of Renewal and/or Glyph of Elemental Power changed to elite skills, they would essentially be the elementalist equivalent of Battle Standard and Signet of Rage and would both be useful in PvP.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

It would be nice to have Glyph of Renewal and/or Glyph of Elemental Power changed to elite skills, they would essentially be the elementalist equivalent of Battle Standard and Signet of Rage and would both be useful in PvP.

Hell, no. 3 1/4 sec cast time is far from ‘’useful in pvp’’.

Glyph of Elemental Power is not elite worthy.

Laraley.7695:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

It would be nice to have Glyph of Renewal and/or Glyph of Elemental Power changed to elite skills, they would essentially be the elementalist equivalent of Battle Standard and Signet of Rage and would both be useful in PvP.

Hell, no. 3 1/4 sec cast time is far from ‘’useful in pvp’’.

Glyph of Elemental Power is not elite worthy.

I would take Glyph of elemental power over any of the current elites without hesitation, same with any cantrip, signet of air/earth, or arcane shield and probably frostbow all are better than the current elites.

Laraley.7695:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

It would be nice to have Glyph of Renewal and/or Glyph of Elemental Power changed to elite skills, they would essentially be the elementalist equivalent of Battle Standard and Signet of Rage and would both be useful in PvP.

Hell, no. 3 1/4 sec cast time is far from ‘’useful in pvp’’.

Glyph of Elemental Power is not elite worthy.

So you’re saying these are not at least on-par with the current ele elite choices? And there’s such a thing as pre-casting the glyph when you expect someone to go down.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Laraley.7695:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

It would be nice to have Glyph of Renewal and/or Glyph of Elemental Power changed to elite skills, they would essentially be the elementalist equivalent of Battle Standard and Signet of Rage and would both be useful in PvP.

Hell, no. 3 1/4 sec cast time is far from ‘’useful in pvp’’.

Glyph of Elemental Power is not elite worthy.

So you’re saying these are not at least on-par with the current ele elite choices? And there’s such a thing as pre-casting the glyph when you expect someone to go down.

With so much cc in the game, you’re going to get interrupted. I’m not sure if you realize it, but that’s a huge casting time. The solution isn’t to bring more medicore elites, but rather fix the current ones or bring new ones worth taking.

And fgs is not all that bad.

The funny thing is I was about to create such a thread when I saw this one. The reason was I just read in another thread how warriors have to sacriface their mighty Battle Standard to be able to get Rampage. Poor warriors have to choose between 3 great elites. It’s hard! How not to pity them?

Something should be done, I agree. Tornado is useless. Fiery greatsword gives great mobility. But is there another class that uses their elites not to wipe, but to escape? Elementals are okay I guess, just explain me why necro can have their elite minion untill it gets killed, and we can have ours only for 1 minute? And their recharges for 60 secs and ours for 120?

I wish elites in this game were more like mobas, huge damage spikes or similar that would be hard to hit. Gravity well is the closest to this i think.

Eyia Hellhide.7320:

just explain me why necro can have their elite minion untill it gets killed, and we can have ours only for 1 minute? And their recharges for 60 secs and ours for 120?

The moment the Flesh Golem WILL ATTACK INSTEAD OF WATCHING 90% of the time will it be limited
At least your elite “minion” is doing something while alive..

ele elites are not THAT bad it is just some elites are too good (cough crate)

Beta Tornado was cool though. Like Beta RTL and so many other stuff i guess.

Cynz.9437:

ele elites are not THAT bad it is just some elites are too good (cough crate)

crate is not all that after the nerf. the turrets insta die to aoe now, so it’s basically stun + bandages most of the time.

regardless, a lot of classes need their bad elites buffed. it was only post buffs that rampage was good anyhow.

in what way is fgs not a good elite? you can use it to move around very quickly. In a reasonably skilled party fgs can be very helpful for moving around classes that have bad mobility like necro, to an extent mesmer, guardians, etc.

Ele’s have alot of things other classes dont, tankiness, damage, sustain, they don’t need great elites. Rampage and Lich are also not press to win buttons either, unless you don’t know how to counter them.

Nyx.7342:

in what way is fgs not a good elite? you can use it to move around very quickly. In a reasonably skilled party fgs can be very helpful for moving around classes that have bad mobility like necro, to an extent mesmer, guardians, etc.

Ele’s have alot of things other classes dont, tankiness, damage, sustain, they don’t need great elites. Rampage and Lich are also not press to win buttons either, unless you don’t know how to counter them.

Eles don’t get anything for free , at the moment the class have to trait to even give a meaning to their own class mechanic, with EA now moved to GM (rightly so) eles still get nothing for free.

If your class got sustain problem even after spending 90% of your trait pts in sustain trait lines just like ele then complain about your profession in the appropriate sub-forum , it’s not ele problem whether your class lack sustain or not even when treating…I’m not one of the devs.

Every class deserve a set of elites worth their title, the main problem of FGS is the conjure mechanic , that sucks tremendously

Lol, I kind of miss the old FGS rush and meteornado, even if they weren’t working as intended. They offered at least a situational reason to use them, and now FGS is ONLY used for the mobility and tornado isn’t really used for anything.

But hey, they’re changing mortar for the engineer finally so maybe they’ll take a look at ele elites too.

Anet will even nerf conjures, even if those as well as our elites are worthless…

What’s going to happen:
1- Expansion comes out
2- Eles reroll as Revenant