Guild Wars 2

The weakness of necro is supposed to be that they are squishy so its justified to be to so chaotic in a team fight and deal a lot of damage but with an ele it removes that weakness thus leaves no counter play.

No to mention its extremely easy to play since you just have to go in death shroud to deal most of your damage and proc the passives traits.

The ele has too much support. Arenet said all class can do all roles and there is no healer but its false. You need an ele in your team or you will lose because you pretty much created a healer spec just like in any other MMO.

Ele kills build diversity and makes extremely high damage builds like necro unbalanced because you cant kill them while being supported.

The ele/tempest needs a redesign. The support needs to be shaved by half and should be maxium 3 allies but in exchange give them a lot more damage and reduce cast time of overloads.

Necro has never been squishy they have always been slow-ish with mediocre damage over 900 range.

Focus the ele, will melt in seconds give or take.

CC is your best friend. Trust me: Call target (or take the target if someone already called it), use lots of CC and burst. Neither of them can survive for long since ele needs to be quite close to necro to heal him, which means ele enters cleave range which is pretty deadly to him.

Mini Crinny.6190:

Focus the ele, will melt in seconds give or take.

no it wont it has an invul

Please don’t make posts about your poor gaming skills and disguise it as a class balance issue. It’s not nice

Emdrix.6124:

Mini Crinny.6190:

Focus the ele, will melt in seconds give or take.

no it wont it has an invul

Hence why i said ‘Give or Take’ it depends on whether the ele has already used it or if it hasnt, end of the day, ele will still die to focus fire with condi bombs and stuns.

you just need to work on your own personal skills because clearly you are lacking of it

R O C.6574:

Please don’t make posts about your poor gaming skills and disguise it as a class balance issue. It’s not nice

Rofl I bet ure still in bronze/silver despite playing the most broken class

So what your saying is that a offensive class becomes tankier when combined with a support class?

That statement is true for literally every [insert support class] + [insert offensive class] combo.

I also fail to see how the 2[3 if plague sending’s conditions are met] corrupt procs that occur during shroud are any more or any less pressure than a warrior using Arc Divider every 3-4 seconds during beserk, or a thief vaulting everywhere, or a DH trap nuke, or a Guardian burn burst, or a Mesmer condi bomb shatter, etc. etc.

Also the procmancer build you referred to has terrible LF generation, and it’s fairly straightforward to burn one down through the ele’s healing.

Ele+necro had always been good, untill you use moa on the ele and burst him down in 3 seconds… or you cc them thill they die (a thing surprisingly frequent in the current meta…).
The ele have an invul while can’t cast skills and heal his necro ally and you can burst down a necro in lesser than 6 seconds (try, it’s true).
Anyway when the necro enter in the shroud he lost all the ele healing, then when he turn back he have the same hp as before and you can kill him fast.

Just a practice issue, or a team that don’t focus or don’t have heavy burst/cc/moa

They’re a good duo but there’s better duos in the current meta. ele+thief, ranger+thief (immoble for 5 sec every 10 with a thief thar burst you? Huge combo!), ranger+any heavy dps.
The necro is good but you can burst and down him in few seconds still if he’s healed by a ele all the time, if you use a high dps class.

Then you can count that the ele have a bunker build and the necro damage is mediocre, then they can survive a lot together but, if you have a decent team, you can kill them easy anyway.

Crinn.7864:

So what your saying is that a offensive class becomes tankier when combined with a support class?

That statement is true for literally every [insert support class] + [insert offensive class] combo.

This.

Every profession does better with support. That’s what support specs are supposed to do: make someone more powerful. If you’re in a 2v2 against an Ele and Necro, your teammate should be able to support you or you should be able to support your teammate. Reaper’s can offer support for an Ele by giving peels or corrupting offensive boons or applying huge pressure to force focus onto the Reaper.

If you know what you’re doing, you can beat this combo. And of course your class composition can affect the outcome of a skirmish too. If you happen to be two professions that Necro and Ele counter well, you’re likely to do poorly, unless you are far more skilled than them.

Target ele.
Put CC on him > put damage on him than they are over.
ele+nec. no block less inv less move skill. This is a FREE KILL combination.

Emdrix.6124:

R O C.6574:

Please don’t make posts about your poor gaming skills and disguise it as a class balance issue. It’s not nice

Rofl I bet ure still in bronze/silver despite playing the most broken class

If it makes you feel better I only have 5 of my placement matches done. Not sure what that has to do with the excuses you’re making for yourself. Ele has its share of challenges. Target focus is real. If my team has poor DPS we will fight all day on point and never kill anything. there are plenty of drawbacks to having too much support on a team. But you don’t see me coming to the forums and saying that balance the problem

Don’t complain when there is room for you to improve.

Its a strong combination, but I wouldn’t call necro squishy: more like a high damage tank with lots of easy to land cc and aoe cleave.

Their tankiness is partly why the combo is so good. Also works well with druid: its hard to effectively spike down the healer when they are standing right to an aoe cleave machine, especially without a premade.

Yasha.5963:

Its a strong combination, but I wouldn’t call necro squishy: more like a high damage tank with lots of easy to land cc and aoe cleave.

What?

The only way a necro can be “tanky” is if his LF generation is close to or exceeds the damage he is taking.

Which should never happen in PvP. Every offensive and bruiser class has the necessary offense to burn through the LF. Unless you’re talking about a defensive stacked necro (SReaping, rise, SArmor, etc) at which point the necro has mediocre dps, and less corrupts, and should not be a major threat.