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Posted by: Alekt.5803

Alekt.5803

Tempest protection uptime went down the drain with the bug fix of Earth Overload, down to 7 seconds protection (full channel; full stay on AoE) from 25. Though, the protection uptime of Druid was kept untouched. What is this about?

Alerie Despins

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Posted by: MrKrataus.6420

MrKrataus.6420

Just be happy, necro wont corupt your protection

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Posted by: Hammerguard.9834

Hammerguard.9834

I don’t remember Druids being able to give 40 seconds AoE protection before a match even started.

… I still want tengu.

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Posted by: Alekt.5803

Alekt.5803

I don’t remember Druids being able to give 40 seconds AoE protection before a match even started.

It’s not about what you remember. Now, it’s not giving any lasting protection to allies.

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Posted by: Shovel Face.4512

Shovel Face.4512

Tempest protection uptime went down the drain with the bug fix of Earth Overload, down to 7 seconds protection (full channel; full stay on AoE) from 25. Though, the protection uptime of Druid was kept untouched. What is this about?

Wow so Ele was OP because of a bug? Lol didn’t know that. So this wasn’t a nerf but a bug fix. Don’t know why people are complaing about this then.

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Posted by: Ehecatl.9172

Ehecatl.9172

I don’t understand. What druid build is giving out 20+ second of protection to the entire team?

Are you asking for Stone Spirit to be nerfed? Dear God…

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

Oslaf Beinir.5842

I do not recall Druid having perma spammable protection tbh…

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Posted by: reikken.4961

reikken.4961

Tempest protection uptime went down the drain with the bug fix of Earth Overload, down to 7 seconds protection (full channel; full stay on AoE) from 25. Though, the protection uptime of Druid was kept untouched. What is this about?

Wow so Ele was OP because of a bug? Lol didn’t know that. So this wasn’t a nerf but a bug fix. Don’t know why people are complaing about this then.

bug fix (nerf) slapped on top of several other nerfs

Balance teams that are actually somewhat competent recognize bug fix nerfs for what they are (which, btw, are nerfs), and will balance accordingly.

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Posted by: Salamander.2504

Salamander.2504

Protection is one of (if not the) most powerful boon in the game. The uptime was too high to begin with.

As someone said in the diamond skin nerf thread: “welcome to how the rest of us play the game.”

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Posted by: Shirlias.8104

Shirlias.8104

I do not recall Druid having perma spammable protection tbh…

of course you don’t, it was the tempest.

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Posted by: Keadron.9570

Keadron.9570

Great so the rest of you will be lowering your health and toughness to match the ele? If not your comment doesn’t really count now does it

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Posted by: reikken.4961

reikken.4961

Protection is one of (if not the) most powerful boon in the game. The uptime was too high to begin with.

As someone said in the diamond skin nerf thread: “welcome to how the rest of us play the game.”

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

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Posted by: Mem no Fushia.7604

Mem no Fushia.7604

Protection is one of (if not the) most powerful boon in the game. The uptime was too high to begin with.

As someone said in the diamond skin nerf thread: “welcome to how the rest of us play the game.”

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

First give ele more of everything: viable builds, mechanic and then maybe ele playerbase will do a favor to tone down a few things if this will be needed.

Now we face other way of doing things: nerf to they ground everything cuz ?demands? and don’t give anything worth our attention. Nope its wrong way as last examples ‘could prove’.

The only one productive is meme magic that rise from disatisfaction from those changes like shatterstrone meta or devs don’t have balance team. Its all beside huge lose in trust to devs. Its really counterproductive.

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Posted by: Salamander.2504

Salamander.2504

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian. Ele’s have the most useful downstate; say hi to everyone.

Ele’s lack health and toughness; say hi to mercenary amulet or paladin amulet.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian. Ele’s have the most useful downstate; say hi to everyone.

Ele’s lack health and toughness; say hi to mercenary amulet or paladin amulet.

That’s funny. Ele having sooooooo much over necro, yet necro is on top and ele is on bottom.

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Posted by: Salamander.2504

Salamander.2504

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian. Ele’s have the most useful downstate; say hi to everyone.

Ele’s lack health and toughness; say hi to mercenary amulet or paladin amulet.

That’s funny. Ele having sooooooo much over necro, yet necro is on top and ele is on bottom.

Necro is OP right now because of 2 things: (1) necro chill damage is OP right now because the damage coefficient (0.3) is too high, and (2) the scepter AA boon corrupt can corrupt stability on auto.

That doesn’t change the fact that it lacks all of the defensive mechanics that other classes have, as outlined in my post above. Necro chill damage needing a nerf is entirely separate from the perma-protection spam that was rightfully removed from Tempest.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian. Ele’s have the most useful downstate; say hi to everyone.

Ele’s lack health and toughness; say hi to mercenary amulet or paladin amulet.

That’s funny. Ele having sooooooo much over necro, yet necro is on top and ele is on bottom.

Necro is OP right now because of 2 things: (1) necro chill damage is OP right now because the damage coefficient (0.3) is too high, and (2) the scepter AA boon corrupt can corrupt stability on auto.

That doesn’t change the fact that it lacks all of the defensive mechanics that other classes have, as outlined in my post above. Necro chill damage needing a nerf is entirely separate from the perma-protection spam that was rightfully removed from Tempest.

You’re right, they should buff necros more.

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Posted by: Salamander.2504

Salamander.2504

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian. Ele’s have the most useful downstate; say hi to everyone.

Ele’s lack health and toughness; say hi to mercenary amulet or paladin amulet.

That’s funny. Ele having sooooooo much over necro, yet necro is on top and ele is on bottom.

Necro is OP right now because of 2 things: (1) necro chill damage is OP right now because the damage coefficient (0.3) is too high, and (2) the scepter AA boon corrupt can corrupt stability on auto.

That doesn’t change the fact that it lacks all of the defensive mechanics that other classes have, as outlined in my post above. Necro chill damage needing a nerf is entirely separate from the perma-protection spam that was rightfully removed from Tempest.

You’re right, they should buff necros more.

I think you need to reread my post? If you do, it’s pretty clear that my opinion is that necro will be in a good spot once chill damage is nerfed and the scepter boon corrupt buff is reverted. Necro lacking defensive mechanics is part of the class design, and I don’t want that to be changed. I’m only pointing out that its kitten y to claim that “ele lacks defensive mechanics”. The moral of the story from this thread is that perma-aoe-protection from tempests is gone, and that’s a good thing.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian. Ele’s have the most useful downstate; say hi to everyone.

Ele’s lack health and toughness; say hi to mercenary amulet or paladin amulet.

That’s funny. Ele having sooooooo much over necro, yet necro is on top and ele is on bottom.

Necro is OP right now because of 2 things: (1) necro chill damage is OP right now because the damage coefficient (0.3) is too high, and (2) the scepter AA boon corrupt can corrupt stability on auto.

That doesn’t change the fact that it lacks all of the defensive mechanics that other classes have, as outlined in my post above. Necro chill damage needing a nerf is entirely separate from the perma-protection spam that was rightfully removed from Tempest.

You’re right, they should buff necros more.

I think you need to reread my post? If you do, it’s pretty clear that my opinion is that necro will be in a good spot once chill damage is nerfed and the scepter boon corrupt buff is reverted. Necro lacking defensive mechanics is part of the class design, and I don’t want that to be changed. I’m only pointing out that its kitten y to claim that “ele lacks defensive mechanics”. The moral of the story from this thread is that perma-aoe-protection from tempests is gone, and that’s a good thing.

Of course it’s a good thing ele was removed from pvp completely. I ain’t even mad about the protection, it was just one of the things that destroyed the class anyways, but you acting like necro is sooo much worse than ele is hilarious.

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Posted by: Salamander.2504

Salamander.2504

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian. Ele’s have the most useful downstate; say hi to everyone.

Ele’s lack health and toughness; say hi to mercenary amulet or paladin amulet.

That’s funny. Ele having sooooooo much over necro, yet necro is on top and ele is on bottom.

Necro is OP right now because of 2 things: (1) necro chill damage is OP right now because the damage coefficient (0.3) is too high, and (2) the scepter AA boon corrupt can corrupt stability on auto.

That doesn’t change the fact that it lacks all of the defensive mechanics that other classes have, as outlined in my post above. Necro chill damage needing a nerf is entirely separate from the perma-protection spam that was rightfully removed from Tempest.

You’re right, they should buff necros more.

I think you need to reread my post? If you do, it’s pretty clear that my opinion is that necro will be in a good spot once chill damage is nerfed and the scepter boon corrupt buff is reverted. Necro lacking defensive mechanics is part of the class design, and I don’t want that to be changed. I’m only pointing out that its kitten y to claim that “ele lacks defensive mechanics”. The moral of the story from this thread is that perma-aoe-protection from tempests is gone, and that’s a good thing.

Of course it’s a good thing ele was removed from pvp completely. I ain’t even mad about the protection, it was just one of the things that destroyed the class anyways, but you acting like necro is sooo much worse than ele is hilarious.

I’m really not man, just listing the facts.

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Posted by: brannigan.9831

brannigan.9831

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian. Ele’s have the most useful downstate; say hi to everyone.

Ele’s lack health and toughness; say hi to mercenary amulet or paladin amulet.

That’s funny. Ele having sooooooo much over necro, yet necro is on top and ele is on bottom.

Necro is OP right now because of 2 things: (1) necro chill damage is OP right now because the damage coefficient (0.3) is too high, and (2) the scepter AA boon corrupt can corrupt stability on auto.

That doesn’t change the fact that it lacks all of the defensive mechanics that other classes have, as outlined in my post above. Necro chill damage needing a nerf is entirely separate from the perma-protection spam that was rightfully removed from Tempest.

You’re right, they should buff necros more.

I think you need to reread my post? If you do, it’s pretty clear that my opinion is that necro will be in a good spot once chill damage is nerfed and the scepter boon corrupt buff is reverted. Necro lacking defensive mechanics is part of the class design, and I don’t want that to be changed. I’m only pointing out that its kitten y to claim that “ele lacks defensive mechanics”. The moral of the story from this thread is that perma-aoe-protection from tempests is gone, and that’s a good thing.

Of course it’s a good thing ele was removed from pvp completely. I ain’t even mad about the protection, it was just one of the things that destroyed the class anyways, but you acting like necro is sooo much worse than ele is hilarious.

Lots of classes have been out of meta for long periods of time much longer then Ele. Stop whining you’ve been mediocre for a day. You were kings forever. Shut up already people that play classes like thief, warrior, and guardian don’t what to hear it. Even if what you are saying is true as far as Im concerned you still below a bunch of classes for immediate fixes.

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Posted by: Keadron.9570

Keadron.9570

Lol you don’t want to hear us then dont. You came into the thread ya don’t like it leave but don’t tell others to shut up

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

Lots of classes have been out of meta for long periods of time much longer then Ele. Stop whining you’ve been mediocre for a day. You were kings forever.

You seem to have conveniently forgotten that whole year when ele was so bad a choice people flamed you if you tried to?

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

“the rest of us” don’t lack other defensive mechanics while having the lowest base defenses in the game while lacking reliable ranged damage

Also someone in ele subforum said something like : that ele lack so many mechanics that other classes have to this degree that it is unique.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian. Ele’s have the most useful downstate; say hi to everyone.

Ele’s lack health and toughness; say hi to mercenary amulet or paladin amulet.

That’s funny. Ele having sooooooo much over necro, yet necro is on top and ele is on bottom.

Necro is OP right now because of 2 things: (1) necro chill damage is OP right now because the damage coefficient (0.3) is too high, and (2) the scepter AA boon corrupt can corrupt stability on auto.

That doesn’t change the fact that it lacks all of the defensive mechanics that other classes have, as outlined in my post above. Necro chill damage needing a nerf is entirely separate from the perma-protection spam that was rightfully removed from Tempest.

You’re right, they should buff necros more.

I think you need to reread my post? If you do, it’s pretty clear that my opinion is that necro will be in a good spot once chill damage is nerfed and the scepter boon corrupt buff is reverted. Necro lacking defensive mechanics is part of the class design, and I don’t want that to be changed. I’m only pointing out that its kitten y to claim that “ele lacks defensive mechanics”. The moral of the story from this thread is that perma-aoe-protection from tempests is gone, and that’s a good thing.

Of course it’s a good thing ele was removed from pvp completely. I ain’t even mad about the protection, it was just one of the things that destroyed the class anyways, but you acting like necro is sooo much worse than ele is hilarious.

Lots of classes have been out of meta for long periods of time much longer then Ele. Stop whining you’ve been mediocre for a day. You were kings forever. Shut up already people that play classes like thief, warrior, and guardian don’t what to hear it. Even if what you are saying is true as far as Im concerned you still below a bunch of classes for immediate fixes.

Thief was in meta longer than ele.
Ele was complete trash for a year before they buffed celestial.
Please, check your arguments before you post something.

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Posted by: reikken.4961

reikken.4961

Ele is a super squishy short range class (not melee, but shorter than medium range) with protection and healing as its only defense.

What? Ele’s lacking mechanics? facepalm Ele’s have active damage mitigation in the form of invulns; say hi to necro and thief. Ele’s have great mobility; say hi to necro and guardian; Ele’s have cleave; say hi to ranger and thief. Ele’s have boons up the wazoo; say hi to necro. Ele’s have stability; say hi to thief and base necro. Ele’s have good condi clear; say hi to rev, engi, mesmer. Ele’s have great healing abilities independent of the #6 skill; say hi to base ranger, necro. Ele’s have great access to CC; say hi to base guardian.

invulns? Ele has a total of two invulns, on long cooldowns. First of all, this is obviously not enough to support a class. And secondly, stealth is similar to invuln. It prevents capture point contribution and, when combined with movement, prevents damage. And death shroud is similar to invuln, except better in most ways, since you can still attack and contribute to capture points.

Mobility? And then you cite necro and guardian? Both of those classes have at least as much mobility as ele. Ele has lightning flash as its only teleport, and it’s not even a stun break (though it is instant cast). Necro has a stun break teleport, and guardian has a stun break teleport, and two more instant cast teleports. Necro actually has two more as well, though they are more situational. Thief and mesmer have good mobility. And they also have stealth. Which is why they have functional offensive builds. Ele, not so much. Mesmer also has a lot of invulns and blocks and CC that ele doesn’t have.

And yes, boons, the subject of this topic, is ele’s primary form of defense. Ele relies on its boons to stay alive. This patch severely nerfed that, on top of all the other nerfs it got.
And I don’t even know why you’re mentioning cleave. That has nothing to do with defense.

And yes, ele has good healing. which doesn’t help much unless you have both healing power and some defense to back it up. Defense that is the subject of this topic.

And healing power, by the way, is a stat. that you have to invest in. spend points on, taking away from other defensive and offensive stats. Aka it isn’t free. Not only do you need to trait/skill for it, unlike most forms of defense you then also need to stat for it. And unlike the #6 skill, most other heals are weak without healing power.

Also I find it quite funny that you mention CC when ele is arguably the worst class in the game for hard CC. No other class has no interrupts on utility skills. Ele also has no interrupts on traits*. Barring the tornado elite or summoning an elite air elemental, ele can only get them from weapon skills. Ele’s weapon sets can pack at most 3 interrupts**, and 1-2 of them are dependent on the enemy walking into them. so only 1-2 active interrupts.

.* Technically, the static field on falling damage trait can result in interrupts, and the shocking aura on being CC’d trait can result in interrupts.

.** And technically you can use a conjured weapon to add an extra weapon to your weapon set, but this obviously can’t be used reactively as you must first summon the weapon and then use the CC skill, and all of the conjure CC skills have long cast times to add to the summoning cast time. ie you generally can’t use it defensively. And while I’m talking about conjures, conjuring an earth shield does grant access to a third invuln, though it is of course delayed unless you already have it out, and in any case can’t be used while disabled.

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Posted by: azyume.6321

azyume.6321

Lots of classes have been out of meta for long periods of time much longer then Ele. Stop whining you’ve been mediocre for a day. You were kings forever. Shut up already people that play classes like thief, warrior, and guardian don’t what to hear it. Even if what you are saying is true as far as Im concerned you still below a bunch of classes for immediate fixes.

So the excuse is that other professions has been out of meta for longer period? That is a motive to keep overbuffing and overnerfing professions? I, honestly, cannot understand certain players in this game. It is seems like they want everything on fire, as long as don’t touch their own profession. That’s not the path to go, that’s not what a balanced game should be.

Anyway, are you enjoying the reaper buffs?

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Posted by: MyPuppy.8970

MyPuppy.8970

Thank you reikken for taking your time explaining what many others above (including me) have gave up to do.

To be more precise eles have more instant pro-active interrupts than 1-2 on weapon skills.
- Staff air 3 / air 5 / earth 4
- Dagger air 5 / earth 4
- Focus water 5 / air 5

I almost forgot warhorn (but no one would have noticed anyway):
- Water 4 / air 4

Their relative reliability is another matter though. Technically, from my experience, only dagger interrupts and gale on focus (1 target, recently buffed to 40s cd from 50s- 50s!) – i never played warhorn – are reliable on-demand interrupts. Static field is great, but requires great precision and timing if you want to interrupt someone without having him crossing through. Gale is effective at point blank range (nice for a ranged gameplay) and unsteady ground more or less up to luck, as people could stand on it. Nice for area denial though.

(Forgot about some conjures too, like ice bow 5, earth shield 3/4, LH 3/5)

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Posted by: Zenos Osgorma.2936

Zenos Osgorma.2936

good luck with that druids and or rangers at that Don’t have much protection uptime unless they use up 2 trees and 1 GM trait with a Shout skill which covers barely 6seconds of the 60seconds on protect me.

or even then you’d have to build as a beast master to share the protection boon from every source they have to gain perma protection but that would be wasteful as it’ll mean you’d have pretty much very limited Stun breaks for a long time untill cooldowns are finished.

with the druids and rangers lack of Viable blinds outside of trait lines ect i see this as fair game, as the eles have regen/protection/vigour ect basicly at 70% upkeep while a ranger has to choose what he wants for high upkeep time which required totaly different build+pets set ups to work those boons.

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Posted by: reikken.4961

reikken.4961

So the excuse is that other professions has been out of meta for longer period? That is a motive to keep overbuffing and overnerfing professions? I, honestly, cannot understand certain players in this game. It is seems like they want everything on fire, as long as don’t touch their own profession. That’s not the path to go, that’s not what a balanced game should be.

Actually it’s pretty basic psychology. check out some psychology of envy. If you’re on top for a while, people want nothing more than to see you burn. Balance? no one cares

not that ele was even #1 before this patch

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Posted by: reikken.4961

reikken.4961

To be more precise eles have more instant pro-active interrupts than 1-2 on weapon skills.

which is why I said weapon sets
Unlike most other classes, ele can’t swap weapons. Pick staff, and you’re stuck with staff. It doesn’t matter that focus has two interrupts. You can’t use them, because you have staff.

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Posted by: MyPuppy.8970

MyPuppy.8970

To be more precise eles have more instant pro-active interrupts than 1-2 on weapon skills.

which is why I said weapon sets
Unlike most other classes, ele can’t swap weapons. Pick staff, and you’re stuck with staff. It doesn’t matter that focus has two interrupts. You can’t use them, because you have staff.

Oh, sorry i misunderstood, but that’s the same with most other classes, they have 1/2 interrupts on their weapon sets too (although more reliable & on lower cooldown). But I agree eles don’t have any interrupt on utilities though (outside conjures).

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