Guild Wars 2

What’s the current elementalist state in PvP? Are there viable build for them right now?

d/d is viable but you need to be fairly good to do well. watch cmc on gw2pvp channel to see him play. he also tests out a lot of stuff for d/d including condi builds. s/d is in the same boat but you die much faster so positioning is key. as far as staff goes id say its still pretty bad for spvp/tpvp, but very effective in wvw, thats just my opinion though someone whos taken more time to test tweak and theory craft may see otherwise.

I tried a lot of both in the past. Imo S/D Fresh air build is the optimal build for spvp.

try something like: Scepter/dagger
10-30-10-10-10
VI, VI, X, XII, VI, VI, VI
always start in air, blow all your stuff —-→ try to land fire phoenix/fang

then either stack might with the earth dagger abilities in the fire circle or just go right back to air and repeat

After the nerf to larceneous strike, the ele position has greatly improved, as a boon reliant profession, a spec able to rip 2 boons on demand was over the top.
Add the sigil of paralization fix and we’re quite good now.

My builds:
0/30/0/20/20 staff-s/d-s/f
0/10/0/30/30 d/d-staff

The recent buffs to staff are amazing, the new unsteady ground has saved my life multiple times..and the life of my allies also, let’s not forget the now faster shockwave and new one with air trait ( great for a quick escape )

Honestly Ele still have no use in this meta. (heavy condition + hard to kill + rez utility)

Any roll in team you would like to put an ele on, there will be other class that do better.

KumaTazZ.8054:

Honestly Ele still have no use in this meta. (heavy condition + hard to kill + rez utility)

Any roll in team you would like to put an ele on, there will be other class that do better.

Nope
Try support builds and hybrid builds, the problem before were all those s/d thieves/hammer warrior running around stealing all your boons/stunlocking you for 6s+, now that the problem has been mitigated the ele can fill support/roamer role quite effectively

Could be worse, could be Mesmers state of PvP.

RIP Mesmers, I knew the well until 10 seconds of immobilize.

Arheundel.6451:

KumaTazZ.8054:

Honestly Ele still have no use in this meta. (heavy condition + hard to kill + rez utility)

Any roll in team you would like to put an ele on, there will be other class that do better.

Nope
Try support builds and hybrid builds, the problem before were all those s/d thieves/hammer warrior running around stealing all your boons/stunlocking you for 6s+, now that the problem has been mitigated the ele can fill support/roamer role quite effectively

We will see you are right or wrong in Tourny tonight.

As I have said, the problem has been greatly mitigated..not really solved, I’d like to see the evade spamming build removed from game, but for now we’ll have to live with what we’ve got.

sorry but ele is still very weak in spvp.

Full burst fresh air works only in some situations good for example if your target is full glass or you catch him with pants down when your team fight and you can do your things without any attention. You are squishy as hell and sometimes you need to burst your downed target because otherwise he kill you with downstate auto attack.
If your target is bunker they easy heal your first burst chain do a little pressure and you need to run. If they doge or block your first burst chain the thing is over to.

You can play a full bunker build then it is not very easy to kill you, but you kill nearly nothing without help. It could happen that you run with 3 mates and get no points for killing people because your dmg was not high enough.

All in all you can play ele in spvp, you will make your points. But every enemy with the same skill level beat the kitten out of you. Even with a lower skill level.

Ele is considered as weak in higher rating areas. Even though, fresh air (S/F 0|30|0|10|30) is quite fun to play and if played a bit sneaky you keep up, somehow.

Hey guys, everything is probably ok now:

There were 2 eles in the vvv tourney. A classic d/d bunker ele (with soliders ammy) that melted in every fight (not his fault, its the class), and a bunker staff ele that just supported his team, and still did it worse than a guardian. Survived decently to 1v1 pressure, melted to 2 people (guardian can last for a while).

We are viable if you want to handicap your team!

BlackBeard.2873:

Hey guys, everything is probably ok now:

There were 2 eles in the vvv tourney. A classic d/d bunker ele (with soliders ammy) that melted in every fight (not his fault, its the class), and a bunker staff ele that just supported his team, and still did it worse than a guardian. Survived decently to 1v1 pressure, melted to 2 people (guardian can last for a while).

We are viable if you want to handicap your team!

It’s time to stop now guys!
Ele has received few nice buffs that make some roles more viable and some fix that increase the class viability overall, the devs have learnt their lesson so don’t expect OP buffs aka warrior/necro/thief types.
It’s possible to adapt your style with we’ve got now, the last patch overall was really good, just do your best and wait for more changes..at the very least you know that no massive nerfs coming our way

Looking good.

Arheundel.6451:

It’s time to stop now guys!
Ele has received few nice buffs that make some roles more viable and some fix that increase the class viability overall, the devs have learnt their lesson so don’t expect OP buffs aka warrior/necro/thief types.
It’s possible to adapt your style with we’ve got now, the last patch overall was really good, just do your best and wait for more changes..at the very least you know that no massive nerfs coming our way

how much did they pay you?

Soulview.4532:

Arheundel.6451:

It’s time to stop now guys!
Ele has received few nice buffs that make some roles more viable and some fix that increase the class viability overall, the devs have learnt their lesson so don’t expect OP buffs aka warrior/necro/thief types.
It’s possible to adapt your style with we’ve got now, the last patch overall was really good, just do your best and wait for more changes..at the very least you know that no massive nerfs coming our way

how much did they pay you?

We need unbiased suggestions now, we all need to work toward that end really, I’m not really that much different from you guys, I have given very biased suggetions that luckily didn’t get listened.

Make no mistakes, warrior-necro-s/d thief will be toned down a little more with time once Anet realize how abused are atm, we just need to wait. But when they will be toned down, the current ele will be again one of the strongest professions.

The last thing you want to have now is some crazy buff that would push our profession to god level like warriors or necros…only to be nerfed hard later, all of you know what a nerf for ele looks like so no need to explain.

You must be kidding.

I didn’t said Ele is unplayable or super bad, check my previous comment above I said

“Any roll in team, there always be other class that is better than Ele.”