Guild Wars 2

Was platinum at 1750, dropped to Gold 3 later, and in 1 day dropped to Gold 1, here’s what’s going on around 1500 right now:

- 3 Necros on team trying to do dailies in ranked, even though other team is obviously anti-necro. We lost.
- 1 Necro going for lord straight away. Why? We lost.
- 1 Thief barging into the team fight and instantly dying every time, never decapping. We lost.
- 1 person going AFK straight away at 120-100 score because he “wasn’t rezzed and team is noob”. We lost.
- 1 person rage quitting, even though we had a nice comeback which turned out to be 500-482, lost rating still even with DC.
- People who didn’t know engies can moa.
- People who admitted to playing PvP only a handful of times just for PvE rewards.
- Much more behavior that should NOT be reflective of gold 3 or higher. kitten this matchmaking. Wake up, Evan.

Rant over.

This is more about bad people than bad matchmaking. In plat and higher the trash talk is unbearable too.

Problem is even at gold 1 you still queue into people at legend 2, kitten mmr is kitten.

I had a match in foefire on gold – while i was still in gold – where we were up 380 to 120. Were holding 2 of 3 points. Enemy thief dings our door, and 3 guys on my team start freaking out. I’m trying to tell them that it doesnt matter, just hold the points. Lord only gives 150 pts, but they claimed if we lose lord, we lose game. They rush back, thief just kites them, while we end up 2v4 for rest of map. They triple cap, eventually get to 350 pts and then rush lord. We lose and those 3 guys blame me for not defending lord.

I dont understand how you can make it to gold and not know the mechanics of each map.

Solstace.2514:

I had a match in foefire on gold – while i was still in gold – where we were up 380 to 120. Were holding 2 of 3 points. Enemy thief dings our door, and 3 guys on my team start freaking out. I’m trying to tell them that it doesnt matter, just hold the points. Lord only gives 150 pts, but they claimed if we lose lord, we lose game. They rush back, thief just kites them, while we end up 2v4 for rest of map. They triple cap, eventually get to 350 pts and then rush lord. We lose and those 3 guys blame me for not defending lord.

I dont understand how you can make it to gold and not know the mechanics of each map.

Because you can go 5-5 in your placement matches and be at 1550 rating and have played the game for 2 days and happened to get lucky with teams, this current pvp season system is absolute garbage.

Dariya.9380:

Was platinum at 1750, dropped to Gold 3 later, and in 1 day dropped to Gold 1, here’s what’s going on around 1500 right now:

- 3 Necros on team trying to do dailies in ranked, even though other team is obviously anti-necro. We lost.
- 1 Necro going for lord straight away. Why? We lost.
- 1 Thief barging into the team fight and instantly dying every time, never decapping. We lost.
- 1 person going AFK straight away at 120-100 score because he “wasn’t rezzed and team is noob”. We lost.
- 1 person rage quitting, even though we had a nice comeback which turned out to be 500-482, lost rating still even with DC.
- People who didn’t know engies can moa.
- People who admitted to playing PvP only a handful of times just for PvE rewards.
- Much more behavior that should NOT be reflective of gold 3 or higher. kitten this matchmaking. Wake up, Evan.

Rant over.

Why is everyone complaining about the teammates they get? You all voted and this is what you guys wanted. Apparently the majority of players wanted Anet to pick their teammates for them because it was too hard to do on their own. You guys wanted a system where a player could be complete garbage that nobody wants on their team, and Anet would force others to take that player on their team.

Stop complaining about this to Anet and blaming them, this is the pvp community’s fault. Your votes (or lack of votes) made this possible. Expecting a competitive pvp scene in a 5v5 team game mode on an mmo where everyone is limited to solo/duo queue is laughable. If you don’t like it, get together in a single thread and advocate for 5v5 only Team Queue. If you don’t want Team Queue, then stop complaining simply because you got what you asked for and enjoy your casual pvp scene.

Shaogin.2679:

Dariya.9380:

Was platinum at 1750, dropped to Gold 3 later, and in 1 day dropped to Gold 1, here’s what’s going on around 1500 right now:

- 3 Necros on team trying to do dailies in ranked, even though other team is obviously anti-necro. We lost.
- 1 Necro going for lord straight away. Why? We lost.
- 1 Thief barging into the team fight and instantly dying every time, never decapping. We lost.
- 1 person going AFK straight away at 120-100 score because he “wasn’t rezzed and team is noob”. We lost.
- 1 person rage quitting, even though we had a nice comeback which turned out to be 500-482, lost rating still even with DC.
- People who didn’t know engies can moa.
- People who admitted to playing PvP only a handful of times just for PvE rewards.
- Much more behavior that should NOT be reflective of gold 3 or higher. kitten this matchmaking. Wake up, Evan.

Rant over.

Why is everyone complaining about the teammates they get? You all voted and this is what you guys wanted. Apparently the majority of players wanted Anet to pick their teammates for them because it was too hard to do on their own. You guys wanted a system where a player could be complete garbage that nobody wants on their team, and Anet would force others to take that player on their team.

Stop complaining about this to Anet and blaming them, this is the pvp community’s fault. Your votes (or lack of votes) made this possible. Expecting a competitive pvp scene in a 5v5 team game mode on an mmo where everyone is limited to solo/duo queue is laughable. If you don’t like it, get together in a single thread and advocate for 5v5 only Team Queue. If you don’t want Team Queue, then stop complaining simply because you got what you asked for and enjoy your casual pvp scene.

gotta side w you bud.

as an aside, players who complain about both Duo Queue & their teammates have no idea how funny they are.

Anyone else getting those weird loss/win streaks? e.g. I dropped down from gold 2 to silver 3 after losing 8 games in a row. Every game was kinda jinxed, like whats the chances to get a dc in 3 out of 8 games in my team? Lost everytime rating though since the dc was “only” for about 2 minutes. Then there was the issue with classstacking, like 3 dh in enemy team and 3 necros in my team (ofc noone rerolled).
Well I´m climbing back right now, but its really frustrating to lose rating cause of random kitten that happens.

Shaogin.2679:

Dariya.9380:

Was platinum at 1750, dropped to Gold 3 later, and in 1 day dropped to Gold 1, here’s what’s going on around 1500 right now:

- 3 Necros on team trying to do dailies in ranked, even though other team is obviously anti-necro. We lost.
- 1 Necro going for lord straight away. Why? We lost.
- 1 Thief barging into the team fight and instantly dying every time, never decapping. We lost.
- 1 person going AFK straight away at 120-100 score because he “wasn’t rezzed and team is noob”. We lost.
- 1 person rage quitting, even though we had a nice comeback which turned out to be 500-482, lost rating still even with DC.
- People who didn’t know engies can moa.
- People who admitted to playing PvP only a handful of times just for PvE rewards.
- Much more behavior that should NOT be reflective of gold 3 or higher. kitten this matchmaking. Wake up, Evan.

Rant over.

Why is everyone complaining about the teammates they get? You all voted and this is what you guys wanted. Apparently the majority of players wanted Anet to pick their teammates for them because it was too hard to do on their own. You guys wanted a system where a player could be complete garbage that nobody wants on their team, and Anet would force others to take that player on their team.

Stop complaining about this to Anet and blaming them, this is the pvp community’s fault. Your votes (or lack of votes) made this possible. Expecting a competitive pvp scene in a 5v5 team game mode on an mmo where everyone is limited to solo/duo queue is laughable. If you don’t like it, get together in a single thread and advocate for 5v5 only Team Queue. If you don’t want Team Queue, then stop complaining simply because you got what you asked for and enjoy your casual pvp scene.

Well…not me. I didn’t vote in that poll. I only suggested separate queues of 5v5 and solo queue. I wanted none of this duo BS. I knew it was more of the same as the other seasons where you have mixed queues.

I will dare say that this is the worst season ever, even worse than season 1 and 2, where I mained warrior as a masochistic act of insanity.

In general, you’re right. Expecting competitive pvp without a TEAM queue is just downright comical. 5v5 NEEDS to be brought to ranked.

Shaogin.2679:

Why is everyone complaining about the teammates they get? You all voted and this is what you guys wanted. Apparently the majority of players wanted Anet to pick their teammates for them because it was too hard to do on their own. You guys wanted a system where a player could be complete garbage that nobody wants on their team, and Anet would force others to take that player on their team.

Quoted for truth. If this season is “unfun” because of matchmaking, then people need to blame themselves for getting rid of the ability to choose their teammates.

The matchmaking is worse when pre-mades are in play. That route pleases the pre-mades and more-or-less victimizes solos.

Xca.9721:

Anyone else getting those weird loss/win streaks? e.g. I dropped down from gold 2 to silver 3 after losing 8 games in a row. Every game was kinda jinxed, like whats the chances to get a dc in 3 out of 8 games in my team? Lost everytime rating though since the dc was “only” for about 2 minutes. Then there was the issue with classstacking, like 3 dh in enemy team and 3 necros in my team (ofc noone rerolled).
Well I´m climbing back right now, but its really frustrating to lose rating cause of random kitten that happens.

I feel ya. I had 2 of those streaks which killed me. I should have just stopped after a few losses but part of me was stubborn and curious. Don’t know if it’s dumb luck or design but I kept getting put on teams with 2 to 3 thieves. They weren’t bad but it’s really bad to keep points as they really aren’t designed for team fights. Part of that should be people rerolling

Vicky.4563:

Shaogin.2679:

Why is everyone complaining about the teammates they get? You all voted and this is what you guys wanted. Apparently the majority of players wanted Anet to pick their teammates for them because it was too hard to do on their own. You guys wanted a system where a player could be complete garbage that nobody wants on their team, and Anet would force others to take that player on their team.

Quoted for truth. If this season is “unfun” because of matchmaking, then people need to blame themselves for getting rid of the ability to choose their teammates.

I’m totally fine with having a pure solo q just like guild wars one did. But they need a team q as well because this is team game!!

Vicky.4563:

Shaogin.2679:

Why is everyone complaining about the teammates they get? You all voted and this is what you guys wanted. Apparently the majority of players wanted Anet to pick their teammates for them because it was too hard to do on their own. You guys wanted a system where a player could be complete garbage that nobody wants on their team, and Anet would force others to take that player on their team.

Quoted for truth. If this season is “unfun” because of matchmaking, then people need to blame themselves for getting rid of the ability to choose their teammates.

I don’t complain about teammates because even in prior seasons I was always solo or duo queue so it was always 3 or 4 random players. At least this season I didn’t get 3 random players on my team while I duo queued and come up against a 4 man premade.

So yeah I voted for solo/duo and still believe (for me at least) that its better than prev seasons.

Only diff this season is the Ascended rewards brought in a lot of “new” pvp players who really don’t care at all about the game mode and only wanted the rewards.

People can complain about being stuck with bad team mates but the chances of the other team also getting baddies is just as high.

Ninski.5680:

Problem is even at gold 1 you still queue into people at legend 2, kitten mmr is kitten.

^^this

Xca.9721:

Anyone else getting those weird loss/win streaks? e.g. I dropped down from gold 2 to silver 3 after losing 8 games in a row. Every game was kinda jinxed, like whats the chances to get a dc in 3 out of 8 games in my team? Lost everytime rating though since the dc was “only” for about 2 minutes. Then there was the issue with classstacking, like 3 dh in enemy team and 3 necros in my team (ofc noone rerolled).
Well I´m climbing back right now, but its really frustrating to lose rating cause of random kitten that happens.

Yep. I did my placement matches earlier in the season (won 4/10) and was put in first tier bronze.

A few days later picked up where started in bronze and won exactly half of 10-20 games, and went up to 1250 rating. One more game and I’m gold. Woo! I can’t remember if they were blowouts or not but it seemed the matchmaker was working fairly well. Then I suddenly lost 5 games that were doomed out of the starting gate. People afking or running around off point for no apparent reason like they were lost. The opposing teams were clearly on the ball. Back to first tier bronze in 5 games – down to 375 rating. That’s my brief but complete experience with this season as it abruptly lost its appeal after that.

Any game I have had more than 2 necros on my team I have won, I’m at about 1550 rating.

Ithilwen.1529:

The matchmaking is worse when pre-mades are in play. That route pleases the pre-mades and more-or-less victimizes solos.

That is opinion, not fact. No one is discussing mixed queues. People want separate queues. Can’t be bothered to re-type everything and I wouldn’t want to offend anyone, so that is as simple as I can put it.

I tanked at least 3-4 times from a steady upward progressing position in Low-Mid Plat. Ended the Season where I started High Gold/Low Plat. Bummed? Sure. Demoralizing. Darn toot’n… I should have known when to call it quits!

Reason: I play off-hours and it was hard to stop. Matchmaking is terrible off-hours and you have a higher tendency to get players like that….but it was literally the only time I could play without having to always decay each week. That’s the problem with the current system (it doesn’t know what to do when population is low). Then your rating gets super volatile and Evan Lesh decides to finally talk about /address it (and other issues) when the season ends.

Sub-Reason: Just kept playing knowing bad games are going to happen all night.

Peak hours: My goodness, heavens bless the system. System works at peak (has a population to work with). Close games, fun games, and nice players on both sides. I get to focus on making sure I’m playing the best I can rather than focusing on my team.

Start of the Season was great (peak hours are great). I got to test myself against many top players and befriended many good players on the way. Sure not all of us stayed Top 250, but after playing so much…you get to know who should be in the Top 250 anyway. I made the mistake of playing when I knew I shouldn’t have (that’s when I got to meet the fine players you have met). It’s not their fault…it’s the system putting them there and your (and my) unfortunate timing.

Plus, I play support…so I guess it was a legendary recipe for a bad time off-hours (since profession balance wasn’t a thing this season). x)

This is Helseth end of season fun. He’s live now guys
https://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth

The last 3 or 4 days in ranked have been much worse than the entire season in my experience. AFKs, disconnects, and the quality of play really seemed to drop for whatever reason.

And as more and more decent PvPers who actually care about winning, leave. The devs are going to have to start giving out precursors for almost no effort in competitive ranked mode. Just to maintain population numbers on paper, at the cost of match quality decreasing farther. Which put off more and more actual competitive PvPers from PvP mode. Till the point PvP in Ranked just become a super easy way to farm high level PvE items. Almost how it is now.

But now that one of their premier players of GW2 has moved over to a actually PvP game. I do wait to see ANet response. If or not ANet even tries pulls it’s ex dedicated competitive PvPers back into GW2. Or if they continue down this current path, and push players who couldn’t care less about winning.

A good first step for ANet IMHO would be to make losing matches, much much less rewarding, if not rewarding at all. This will force players to actually try to win their matches.

Punish trolls and cheaters by completely removing them from Ranked PvP. Allow them to be able to continue to play Unranked.

Balance PvP around PvP and not have two separate set of rules for Competitive Ranked Leagues and ESL. Either allow or ban class stacking for both venues.

PvP needs way more frequent balance patches. Maybe not as frequent as dedicated PvP game every 2 to 3 weeks. But I feel meaningful PvP balance patches every 4 to 6 weeks, will do the PvP scene in GW2 so much good.
Push for Match quality over rather then having a huge number of dead weight players sitting around. In my firmest belief once players start seeing match quality improve, more and more players such as my self would be tempted to return to the PvP scene in GW2. Thus naturely increasing population, and gaining more players that actually care about winning. Thus returning GW2 to the possibility of a eSports scene that’s not laughable.

I’m guessing Pro League hasn’t given much return on investment. The viewership hasn’t been very high and the players haven’t done a good job of “selling” the game.

I’d rather ANET focused on sustaining the game.