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Posted by: philheat.3956

philheat.3956

Hi,
I know these days engi is really popular for turret engis and celestial engis, but i’d like to know your opinion about engi berserk. I see basically every profession with zerker in tournaments and rated matches, Thief, guardian and mesmer zerkers are more viable but sometimes i see necro power, ranger power, and less, s/f eles.

But never, never, an engi zerk.

This is for several reasons, main reason is because thief/guardian and mesmers are better in zerkers version so if you want a zerker class you basically choose between these 3 classes, and the other reason is because the celestial version gives a bit less damage but really better survivability, so is really more viable for conquest matches.

But before the celestial amulet, engi zerker was really really super rare, never in the meta, and every engi used rabid condi version (or the old lame decap engi with settler/cleric)

So, what you think Anet should improve in Engis zerk to make them viable and at the same time to not improve so much celestial version or other build? Working on precision line? Other stuff?

I’d like to know your thoughts.

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

Jekkt.6045

a static discharge engi can put out a good amount of damage, you can even oneshot people with it but the problem is the survivability its weakness to cc and condis.

i’d say lets wait for the expansion and the new weapon – the hammer.
this may be a lazy answer but even so there won’t be any big changes before heart of thorns anyway.

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Posted by: choovanski.5462

choovanski.5462

fix kit refinement (return the nades and give each a kit an ICD) and it might become big again.

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Posted by: Aktium.9506

Aktium.9506

fix kit refinement (return the nades and give each a kit an ICD) and it might become big again.

No thanks. The SD burst is big enough without that 100 nades nonsense making a comeback.

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Posted by: choovanski.5462

choovanski.5462

fix kit refinement (return the nades and give each a kit an ICD) and it might become big again.

No thanks. The SD burst is big enough without that 100 nades nonsense making a comeback.

ya need some compensation for being a walking ‘kill me’ sign

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Posted by: BlackBeard.2873

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cele engie does about as much damage as a zerker of other classes, maybe not 1 single burst, but consistent, very high pressure with cc out the wazoo.

Static discharge won’t ever be able to compete unless the engie gets more instant damage and invulns/stealth/blocks with huge heals attached.

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Posted by: philheat.3956

philheat.3956

cele engie does about as much damage as a zerker of other classes, maybe not 1 single burst, but consistent, very high pressure with cc out the wazoo.

Static discharge won’t ever be able to compete unless the engie gets more instant damage and invulns/stealth/blocks with huge heals attached.

I agree.

I’d work on Firearms line because basically no engi builds investes more than 2 points on it, and Celestial Build can’t invest many points or power would be very low without 6 points on power line and no might stack.

For example 2 major traits

Go for the Eyes could be improved and chance could go to 50%
and
Juggernaut could work with rifle too.

In this way with a zerk amulet and more than 4 points invested in this line you get an engi zerk version with a little more survivability without touching other engi build.

It’s only a suggestion of course. Not sure if it would be enough to make an engi zerk viable but it could be a good start.

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Posted by: Thiefz.3695

Thiefz.3695

I run 4/4/0/6/0 for my engi burst. HGH with strength runes. The problem with engi zerk is that you have to put everything into elixirs. That means you aren’t running healing turret which everyone loves. You are also not running supply crate. I run tool kit as the only non elixir on my bar. Mostly for the blocks and pulls however you can do some nice cleave with the wrench when you need to. It’s very vanilla though.

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Posted by: philheat.3956

philheat.3956

Speaking about elixirs in general, i don’t like their randomness, for example i think elixir X it would be a really good elite but the fact you can get tornado at 50% (and it’s bad) it’s not so great.

You don’t have a lot of control on elixir build.

And i Agree, the survivability in team fight scenario is bad.

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Posted by: Aowys.9420

Aowys.9420

This is something i have been playing with for months now.
Like someone said before CC is the problem .
I have been playing with the protection rune to counter the CC along with the two protection traits. Its not all that bad. Yet even with zerker It feels too weak in attacking to me . Assassin Seems to be alot better in AoE’s yet will lack Vit .
With assassin I am able to drop pretty much anyone . Yet with Zerker I need to work alil harder .


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Posted by: Loboling.5293

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I’m not sure of the approach, but I’d love for some subtle buff to zerker engineer. Maybe increase the distance of rocket boots. (allowing a more guaranteed reset for a zerker with rocket boots) Or increase slightly (10%) the damage of static discharge. I can’t think of much else that wouldn’t affect other builds. I just want to play zerker engineer at the highest level. (I play zerker on every class pretty much, as I love burst)

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Posted by: Sins.4782

Sins.4782

I’d like to see Static Shock (AED’s toolbelt skill) turned into a targeted range damage effect. It doesn’t need to keep the CC effect, having damage and proc’ing static discharge are enough. AED has the potential to be great with glass builds, but I just can’t justify it right now with all that destruction-traited Healing Turret offers. Having damage and an SD proc might tip the scales though.

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

Engies gonna get lotta love. Troll love after tomorrow.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

cele engie does about as much damage as a zerker of other classes
Static discharge won’t ever be able to compete unless the engie gets more instant damage

nope
static discharge is one of the biggest bursts already

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Posted by: Peutrifectus.4830

Peutrifectus.4830

I love my SD zerker… I’d call it my main build :-D