Guild Wars 2

It is well known that for quite some time elementalist was best due to the fact that it could lay multiple combo fields and give great area healing and utility which were further amplified with tempest. Engineer however doesn’t just lay combo fields but can even trigger them himself with leap, whirl and blast finishers! I did defeat a scrapper on my tempest once this season in 1v1, but this is an anecdotal case not indicative of the overall objective strengths of the classes.

Perhaps the damage from lightning overload with the proper setup (e.g., dragonhunter daze trap) evens these two out in the long run?

Reapers dumpster scrappers.

IMO it goes like this: Reaper/Mesmer → Tempest/Rev → Druid Scrapper right below them, → DH → Everything else

Reaper may counter scrapper but that doesn’t take into account strengths and weaknesses as a whole when weighed against a class’s usefulness. Daredevil beats reaper on average but the consensus is that reaper is still more useful overall for example. Yes reapers too can lay down chill fields to enable frost armor leap and extra chill application (such as rapid firing through a friendly chill field) but staff 4 on elementalist has the same effect. Reapers have decent combo field access (activating with bolts and laying the fields themselves) but scrapper and tempest seem to rule here. Druid staff 3 also triggers them nicely on a relatively short cooldown (such as coordinating extra might stacks with fire staff 2 + druid staff 3 or a healing blast finisher with it on a water field)

I’d say eles are better in healing/supporting their team, but scrappers are completely superior if on their own. Not only for 1v1 but also for xv1 purposes like skipping on far.

i hope someday all elite specialisations will get balanced to the core ones. Without this all superior damage/ bunker-with-all-possible-boons orgy.

Ruru.1302:

Reapers dumpster scrappers.

Condimesmer is even worse for a scrapper.

Most flexible class, wide choice in combos. Elixir gun seems tailor made for all your pvp needs. The light field is amazing, retaliation uptime through blast combo hurts burst characters badly, and it’s a good getaway. Poison for the downed, cripple as soft CC.

The dome you get with bulwark is awesome vs. everything ranged, you have 2 short cooldown stunbreaks on toolbelt. Sneak gyro, Slick Shoes and gyro stomp are gruesomely OP, not even going into that. Portable insta-cast water field on toolbelt. Stealth detection to mess with thieves and mesmers.

Hammer skills provide huge sustain through block/reflect/evade. The stun fields needs no introduction. Every skill in the scrapper build is useful and strong, the synergy is perfect. I just kittening love scrappers :P

Agemnon.4608:

It is well known that for quite some time elementalist was best due to the fact that it could lay multiple combo fields and give great area healing and utility which were further amplified with tempest. Engineer however doesn’t just lay combo fields but can even trigger them himself with leap, whirl and blast finishers! I did defeat a scrapper on my tempest once this season in 1v1, but this is an anecdotal case not indicative of the overall objective strengths of the classes.

Perhaps the damage from lightning overload with the proper setup (e.g., dragonhunter daze trap) evens these two out in the long run?

The problem with your affirmations is that BEST in what with which build?

Scrapper with Morter > Scrapper with Stealth Gyro for laying field. But people play Stealth Gyro for more peel utilities…

dd ele was best in all situations (or perhaps except burst damage) but it’s nerfed and put at his proper place… (please don’t flame that ele should be full DPS viable and not support).

The thing is… BEST for one class/role is different. A bruiser that want to excel in 1v1 for sides points, would use the best possible thing for it.

Optimum in meta for that role :

Best bruisers – Reaper, Mercenary mesmer, Scrapper Paladin or Marauder.
Best bunker – tempest d/f cleric
Best roamer DPS – power revenant

Meta is the best optimum thing for a role. If you stacked meta classes with role, with people that excel in that role… you play the best possible.

But… for some… say Counter-Meta comp (really rare since HoT, but let’s take Radioactive last year) the BEST is not the balanced meta comp. They will run 2 DPS necro/wells/liches with two bunker rezzers and something support with it.

Anyway… scrapper are not more best than other classes… they share 3 other build (reaper and mercenary mesmer) for the same role. I find scrapper best for team fight because of supports, but other would think reaper support (fear + chills + condi sponge) is better.

Well… it’s kit_te_ning subjective.