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Posted by: Shovel Face.4512

Shovel Face.4512

Beacause broken classes got repaired. It’s hilarious.

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

More likely that their broken specs got balanced. Bye bye bunker mesmer

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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

Beacause broken classes got repaired. It’s hilarious.

That’s usually what happens when OP specs stop being OP

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Posted by: HipposWild.7185

HipposWild.7185

That is not at all what happened. They just swapped who’s insanely op. I don’t play mesmer but them and ele might add well get deleted. Which is not balance.

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Posted by: Shovel Face.4512

Shovel Face.4512

That is not at all what happened. They just swapped who’s insanely op. I don’t play mesmer but them and ele might add well get deleted. Which is not balance.

Ur kidding right? Everyone was so use to broken Mesmer class that now since they actually have to try and play with skill they are mad they can’t be the “OP class.” As far as I’m concerned, this is balance. Having Ele and Mes being virtually unkillable is not balance. Having a Rev condi you to death by simply standing next to you is not balance. Have 2 classes virtually unplayable is not balance. Having all classes now required to have skill to play IS BALANCE.

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Posted by: Pepsi.8907

Pepsi.8907

Then tell me which build we have? Viable?
Shatter? We barely make it into the 10-15k dps and that’s going full zerker
Bunker?alacrity got nerfed so hard illusion line gives more CDR than chrono
Condi? Ah, what a joke. Scepter still trash.
Boon bot? Maybe, but our resistance got nerfed and it’s cancelled by Boon corrupt necro
But yeah still got mom and portal. Op please nerf I guess?

Still looking for the skill you mentioned with all passive and cc spam going on… Seriously April 2014 needed more skill than that
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Posted by: Uncle Dalty.8327

Uncle Dalty.8327

More likely that their broken specs got balanced. Bye bye bunker mesmer

OMG drop the bunker mes crap… it was just that crap. but it was the only option for mes and now there aren’t any

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Posted by: Uncle Dalty.8327

Uncle Dalty.8327

That is not at all what happened. They just swapped who’s insanely op. I don’t play mesmer but them and ele might add well get deleted. Which is not balance.

Ur kidding right? Everyone was so use to broken Mesmer class that now since they actually have to try and play with skill they are mad they can’t be the “OP class.” As far as I’m concerned, this is balance. Having Ele and Mes being virtually unkillable is not balance. Having a Rev condi you to death by simply standing next to you is not balance. Have 2 classes virtually unplayable is not balance. Having all classes now required to have skill to play IS BALANCE.

let me guess… you play an untouched or buffed class and think you are skillful now cause anet nerfed everything to crap. Yeah you are just that good

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Posted by: online.1278

online.1278

reaper and rev are still broken.

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Posted by: Shovel Face.4512

Shovel Face.4512

That is not at all what happened. They just swapped who’s insanely op. I don’t play mesmer but them and ele might add well get deleted. Which is not balance.

Ur kidding right? Everyone was so use to broken Mesmer class that now since they actually have to try and play with skill they are mad they can’t be the “OP class.” As far as I’m concerned, this is balance. Having Ele and Mes being virtually unkillable is not balance. Having a Rev condi you to death by simply standing next to you is not balance. Have 2 classes virtually unplayable is not balance. Having all classes now required to have skill to play IS BALANCE.

let me guess… you play an untouched or buffed class and think you are skillful now cause anet nerfed everything to crap. Yeah you are just that good

Ok whatever class I play is immaterial. The point I’m trying to get across is just because your class, which was broken, was fixed with this patch doesn’t mean ur class is not viable. YOUR CLASS DOESNT NOT HAVE TO BE SUPER POWERFUL TO BE VIABLE. I mean come on, anyone with any decent knowledge of GW2 PvP knew clearly that Mes was insanely broken and that the Bunker meta was toxic. And now since every broken class has now been brought down with the rest of the classes everyone is complaing and whining because they want their broken classes back so they can be the super powerful class again. These guys have become so use to playing super powerful classes and having advantages over other classes that they can’t stop to think that maybe their super powerful classes needed to be nerfed in order to achieve balance.

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Posted by: Keadron.9570

Keadron.9570

There is a difference between fixing an op class and running it into the ground. A nerf ok fine making certain things completely useless not so much

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Posted by: XxsdgxX.8109

XxsdgxX.8109

That is not at all what happened. They just swapped who’s insanely op. I don’t play mesmer but them and ele might add well get deleted. Which is not balance.

Ur kidding right? Everyone was so use to broken Mesmer class that now since they actually have to try and play with skill they are mad they can’t be the “OP class.” As far as I’m concerned, this is balance. Having Ele and Mes being virtually unkillable is not balance. Having a Rev condi you to death by simply standing next to you is not balance. Have 2 classes virtually unplayable is not balance. Having all classes now required to have skill to play IS BALANCE.

let me guess… you play an untouched or buffed class and think you are skillful now cause anet nerfed everything to crap. Yeah you are just that good

Ok whatever class I play is immaterial. The point I’m trying to get across is just because your class, which was broken, was fixed with this patch doesn’t mean ur class is not viable. YOUR CLASS DOESNT NOT HAVE TO BE SUPER POWERFUL TO BE VIABLE. I mean come on, anyone with any decent knowledge of GW2 PvP knew clearly that Mes was insanely broken and that the Bunker meta was toxic. And now since every broken class has now been brought down with the rest of the classes everyone is complaing and whining because they want their broken classes back so they can be the super powerful class again. These guys have become so use to playing super powerful classes and having advantages over other classes that they can’t stop to think that maybe their super powerful classes needed to be nerfed in order to achieve balance.

Rofl sure dude

Overnerfing classes at the same time you overbuff others at the same time you delete defensive amulets from pvp is pure balancing.

Great joke

And yep, biased much for thief?

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Posted by: Shovel Face.4512

Shovel Face.4512

That is not at all what happened. They just swapped who’s insanely op. I don’t play mesmer but them and ele might add well get deleted. Which is not balance.

Ur kidding right? Everyone was so use to broken Mesmer class that now since they actually have to try and play with skill they are mad they can’t be the “OP class.” As far as I’m concerned, this is balance. Having Ele and Mes being virtually unkillable is not balance. Having a Rev condi you to death by simply standing next to you is not balance. Have 2 classes virtually unplayable is not balance. Having all classes now required to have skill to play IS BALANCE.

let me guess… you play an untouched or buffed class and think you are skillful now cause anet nerfed everything to crap. Yeah you are just that good

Ok whatever class I play is immaterial. The point I’m trying to get across is just because your class, which was broken, was fixed with this patch doesn’t mean ur class is not viable. YOUR CLASS DOESNT NOT HAVE TO BE SUPER POWERFUL TO BE VIABLE. I mean come on, anyone with any decent knowledge of GW2 PvP knew clearly that Mes was insanely broken and that the Bunker meta was toxic. And now since every broken class has now been brought down with the rest of the classes everyone is complaing and whining because they want their broken classes back so they can be the super powerful class again. These guys have become so use to playing super powerful classes and having advantages over other classes that they can’t stop to think that maybe their super powerful classes needed to be nerfed in order to achieve balance.

Rofl sure dude

Overnerfing classes at the same time you overbuff others at the same time you delete defensive amulets from pvp is pure balancing.

Great joke

And yep, biased much for thief.

Whatever insane buff thief got pls tell me. I’m still looking for it. Aside from the AA increase not one thing is even remotely useful. Thief still as tough as cardboard, were still trapped with taking trickery, Acro line is sub par at best, Impact strike still better than BV.

As for over nerfing, do you really want another bunker meta? I thought the consensus was that is was boring to play and required little skill. And I really think your’re over exaggerating it. I can’t really speak for this cuz I don’t play Ele or Mes but there’s no way they were nerfed to the point where it’s completely useless. I’m sure once everything gets settled in you’ll see what I mean.

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Posted by: Keadron.9570

Keadron.9570

Then go try them out lol just saying

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Posted by: Silverkey.2078

Silverkey.2078

Actually, currently, most classes are OP. So you need to be OP to survive.

Bunker mesmer was OP because of alacrity and quickness rez. They nerfed that, and more.

But bunker mesmer was not the only OP thing around. Revenant, scrapper and druid were all as OP. But any nerf there? Nope.

And thief needed sustain but got damage instead.

So why are we complaining? Because the balance patch did not offer what was needed: balance.

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Posted by: Keadron.9570

Keadron.9570

Ele got a hard nerf also

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Posted by: HipposWild.7185

HipposWild.7185

That is not at all what happened. They just swapped who’s insanely op. I don’t play mesmer but them and ele might add well get deleted. Which is not balance.

Ur kidding right? Everyone was so use to broken Mesmer class that now since they actually have to try and play with skill they are mad they can’t be the “OP class.” As far as I’m concerned, this is balance. Having Ele and Mes being virtually unkillable is not balance. Having a Rev condi you to death by simply standing next to you is not balance. Have 2 classes virtually unplayable is not balance. Having all classes now required to have skill to play IS BALANCE.

Are you the one who is kidding? Thief is going to two hit mesmer and ele to death. That’s not skill in the remotest sense. They’re not close to on Par anymore ele can go full fresh air nuke and hope no one sees them because otherwise they’re already dead. Mesmer hasn’t been broken that long and honestly they could have tweaked it back to life but instead they proved once again that is not their goal. Seriously what skill is required to play a warrior? Mash all the buttons as soon as they’re available? Or a thief now? Sneak in and land two or three crits then run like a your life depends on it. The class desperately needed survival sooo they gave them damage.. why not?

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Posted by: Malchior.5732

Malchior.5732

Revenant, scrapper and druid were all as OP. But any nerf there? Nope.

lolwat

All Revenant got were nerfs.
Argue all you want that Sword 2 got buffed, but the reality is that the skill doesn’t even work properly and just does whatever it wants.

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Posted by: kuritsutian.2987

kuritsutian.2987

As an Ele can tell that I am hanging on fine, time to adapt and join the skilled play train.

Skills >> Build.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

As an Ele can tell that I am hanging on fine, time to adapt and join the skilled play train.

Skills >> Build.

You keep spamming this crap, maybe your build works somewhere in the low skill bracket, but the truth is ele got completely destroyed. We won’t see any in the competitive scene, you can be sure about that. Reapers eats you alive, you have nothing to offer and burst ele is still not optimal at all.

Please, go spam this bs somewhere else.

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Posted by: kuritsutian.2987

kuritsutian.2987

As an Ele can tell that I am hanging on fine, time to adapt and join the skilled play train.

Skills >> Build.

You keep spamming this crap, maybe your build works somewhere in the low skill bracket, but the truth is ele got completely destroyed. We won’t see any in the competitive scene, you can be sure about that. Reapers eats you alive, you have nothing to offer and burst ele is still not optimal at all.

Please, go spam this bs somewhere else.

lol, don’t know why you get mad. Not having problems with reapers so far… not relaying on boons and don’t standing on AOE’s as if DS were still applied kinda helps a lot, … I guess this enforces my point up there …
as of future of ele in the possible unknown meta is way to soon to say ele will be dead. You are right tho when you say my opinion is entitled to the “low skill racket” since there’s no other way right now.

Edit: have you entertained the idea that maybe with thief being a strong class currently and other classes that can counter Necros are getting some buffs, people will think twice to pick reapers as the class of choice?

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

As an Ele can tell that I am hanging on fine, time to adapt and join the skilled play train.

Skills >> Build.

You keep spamming this crap, maybe your build works somewhere in the low skill bracket, but the truth is ele got completely destroyed. We won’t see any in the competitive scene, you can be sure about that. Reapers eats you alive, you have nothing to offer and burst ele is still not optimal at all.

Please, go spam this bs somewhere else.

lol, don’t know why you get mad. Not having problems with reapers so far… not relaying on boons and don’t standing on AOE’s as if DS were still applied kinda helps a lot, … I guess this enforces my point up there …
as of future of ele in the possible unknown meta is way to soon to say ele will be dead. You are right tho when you say my opinion is entitled to the “low skill racket” since there’s no other way right now.

Edit: have you entertained the idea that maybe with thief being a strong class currently and other classes that can counter Necros are getting some buffs, people will think twice to pick reapers as the class of choice?

It doesn’t enforce anything. I saw your build, it uses crapload of boons. Please let me know once you start facing good people and then you realize how easily necro will shut you down.

Ele was already not used much in prolague, now we won’t see any. Are you gonna call those people unskilled, too and say how much better you are because you can kill some hotjoiners? Please.

Edit: Went back to your build to see how much you don’t rely on boons.
Elemental Attunement
Elemental Contigency
Soothing Disruption
Soothing Ice
Renewing Stamina

Lol, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

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Posted by: kuritsutian.2987

kuritsutian.2987

It doesn’t enforce anything. I saw your build, it uses crapload of boons. Please let me know once you start facing good people and then you realize how easily necro will shut you down.
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Edit: Went back to your build to see how much you don’t rely on boons.
Elemental Attunement
Elemental Contigency
Soothing Disruption
Soothing Ice
Renewing Stamina

Lol, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

… really: -_-U … they only trigger two boons! Stamina and Regeneration …occasionally prot but doesn’t rely on protection like common ele … Check not only the build to cherry pick to make a point, check usage and see how to deal with necro bombs and condis in general…

For refference the mentioned build is

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Build-Core-ele-is-back/first#post5950782

Ele was already not used much in prolague, now we won’t see any. Are you gonna call those people unskilled, too and say how much better you are because you can kill some hotjoiners? Please.

Never talked about proleague, anywhere!!! I assume you are a proleaguer since you runing like if on fire on several treads calling doom, doom even before changes were anounced. Once again as I post on most of my opinion comments, it’s too soon to make any prediction ….

If I feel skilled because I killed some hotjoiners… yes, I do, not because I killed them, but how and under what conditions I did … died a lot too, doesn’t make me feel less skilled.

If what offended you is the skill >> build comment, I apologize, it was ot directed at anyone. Just enforcing that now pvp seems to require more skills to be successful, don’t agree on that?

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

It doesn’t enforce anything. I saw your build, it uses crapload of boons. Please let me know once you start facing good people and then you realize how easily necro will shut you down.
..snip..

Edit: Went back to your build to see how much you don’t rely on boons.
Elemental Attunement
Elemental Contigency
Soothing Disruption
Soothing Ice
Renewing Stamina

Lol, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

… really: -_-U … they only trigger two boons! Stamina and Regeneration …occasionally prot but doesn’t rely on protection like common ele … Check not only the build to cherry pick to make a point, check usage and see how to deal with necro bombs and condis in general…

For refference the mentioned build is

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Build-Core-ele-is-back/first#post5950782

Ele was already not used much in prolague, now we won’t see any. Are you gonna call those people unskilled, too and say how much better you are because you can kill some hotjoiners? Please.

Never talked about proleague, anywhere!!! I assume you are a proleaguer since you runing like if on fire on several treads calling doom, doom even before changes were anounced. Once again as I post on most of my opinion comments, it’s too soon to make any prediction ….

If I feel skilled because I killed some hotjoiners… yes, I do, not because I killed them, but how and in what conditions I did … died a lot too, doesn’t make me feel less skilled.

If what offended you is the skill >> build comment, I apologize, it was ot directed at anyone. Just enforcing that now pvp seems to require more skills to be successful, don’t agree on that?

You don’t even know how your build works. Pro tip – if you hover over the tooltip it will actually tell you how many boons you’re getting. Arrmour of earth gives you 4 boons insantly, something great to have when there are necros running around. On top of that you have EA, EC and other boons. Only two boons? Please read your skills.

You also use tornado, lol.

You have 13K hp, any necro will get through that no problem and no condi clear will save you.

You have absolutely zero clue about your build, you have no clue about the competitive scene and you run to forums saying how much it’s about skill and that you’re so much skilled because you kill hotjoiners. Really?

It doesn’t offend me, it kittenes me off when people like you are on a crusade on forums to make themselves feel better. You’re literally the only person who’s been posting how ele is good now. Mind stop giving them more ideas to nerf the class?

Once again, when you start facing decent people, let me know how much your build works.

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Posted by: Rekt.5360

Rekt.5360

That is not at all what happened. They just swapped who’s insanely op. I don’t play mesmer but them and ele might add well get deleted. Which is not balance.

Ur kidding right? Everyone was so use to broken Mesmer class that now since they actually have to try and play with skill they are mad they can’t be the “OP class.” As far as I’m concerned, this is balance. Having Ele and Mes being virtually unkillable is not balance. Having a Rev condi you to death by simply standing next to you is not balance. Have 2 classes virtually unplayable is not balance. Having all classes now required to have skill to play IS BALANCE.

Are you the one who is kidding? Thief is going to two hit mesmer and ele to death. That’s not skill in the remotest sense. They’re not close to on Par anymore ele can go full fresh air nuke and hope no one sees them because otherwise they’re already dead. Mesmer hasn’t been broken that long and honestly they could have tweaked it back to life but instead they proved once again that is not their goal. Seriously what skill is required to play a warrior? Mash all the buttons as soon as they’re available? Or a thief now? Sneak in and land two or three crits then run like a your life depends on it. The class desperately needed survival sooo they gave them damage.. why not?

Pliz, go play warr in condi meta and then we’ll see as you mash buttons and everything get blinded or dodged because 3/4 sec telegraph which brainded monkeys can dodge. Also lol @ above rant, y u so mad?

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Posted by: kuritsutian.2987

kuritsutian.2987

It doesn’t enforce anything. I saw your build, it uses crapload of boons. Please let me know once you start facing good people and then you realize how easily necro will shut you down.
..snip..

Edit: Went back to your build to see how much you don’t rely on boons.
Elemental Attunement
Elemental Contigency
Soothing Disruption
Soothing Ice
Renewing Stamina

Lol, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

… really: -_-U … they only trigger two boons! Stamina and Regeneration …occasionally prot but doesn’t rely on protection like common ele … Check not only the build to cherry pick to make a point, check usage and see how to deal with necro bombs and condis in general…

For refference the mentioned build is

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Build-Core-ele-is-back/first#post5950782

Ele was already not used much in prolague, now we won’t see any. Are you gonna call those people unskilled, too and say how much better you are because you can kill some hotjoiners? Please.

Never talked about proleague, anywhere!!! I assume you are a proleaguer since you runing like if on fire on several treads calling doom, doom even before changes were anounced. Once again as I post on most of my opinion comments, it’s too soon to make any prediction ….

If I feel skilled because I killed some hotjoiners… yes, I do, not because I killed them, but how and in what conditions I did … died a lot too, doesn’t make me feel less skilled.

If what offended you is the skill >> build comment, I apologize, it was ot directed at anyone. Just enforcing that now pvp seems to require more skills to be successful, don’t agree on that?

You don’t even know how your build works. Pro tip – if you hover over the tooltip it will actually tell you how many boons you’re getting. Arrmour of earth gives you 4 boons insantly, something great to have when there are necros running around. On top of that you have EA, EC and other boons. Only two boons? Please read your skills.

You also use tornado, lol.

You have 13K hp, any necro will get through that no problem and no condi clear will save you.

You have absolutely zero clue about your build, you have no clue about the competitive scene and you run to forums saying how much it’s about skill and that you’re so much skilled because you kill hotjoiners. Really?

It doesn’t offend me, it kittenes me off when people like you are on a crusade on forums to make themselves feel better. You’re literally the only person who’s been posting how ele is good now. Mind stop giving them more ideas to nerf the class?

Once again, when you start facing decent people, let me know how much your build works.

lol cause casting Armor of earth before heading a necro is a “Great idea” … once again skills …. playing ele now is more than smashing buttons on availability xD

I guess you are scared of eles getting more nerfs, …. why would they get nerfede is they are now the trash you claim they are… no point on arguing anymore, only time will tell… we can save this topic and come back to see what happened…. … so far I am hanging well againist necros, if you can’t, check your builds.

Edit: is normal to have counters too, noob advice…. avoid engaging combat with them.

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

I wonder how long it will take until people realize the game is just in a different state of complete brokenness and that they will have to rage-play this kitten for 3 more months… With thieves just pressing 1-1-1-1- in WvW and killing eles in 1.5 seconds while they’re daze/stunned, GJ Anet. Again buffing condi, power creep and mindless spamming and neglecting the issue of build variety.

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

Junkpile.7439

Maybe there should some skill test in game and only players who can pass this test could write in forums.

Low quality trolling since launch
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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

It doesn’t enforce anything. I saw your build, it uses crapload of boons. Please let me know once you start facing good people and then you realize how easily necro will shut you down.
..snip..

Edit: Went back to your build to see how much you don’t rely on boons.
Elemental Attunement
Elemental Contigency
Soothing Disruption
Soothing Ice
Renewing Stamina

Lol, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

… really: -_-U … they only trigger two boons! Stamina and Regeneration …occasionally prot but doesn’t rely on protection like common ele … Check not only the build to cherry pick to make a point, check usage and see how to deal with necro bombs and condis in general…

For refference the mentioned build is

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Build-Core-ele-is-back/first#post5950782

Ele was already not used much in prolague, now we won’t see any. Are you gonna call those people unskilled, too and say how much better you are because you can kill some hotjoiners? Please.

Never talked about proleague, anywhere!!! I assume you are a proleaguer since you runing like if on fire on several treads calling doom, doom even before changes were anounced. Once again as I post on most of my opinion comments, it’s too soon to make any prediction ….

If I feel skilled because I killed some hotjoiners… yes, I do, not because I killed them, but how and in what conditions I did … died a lot too, doesn’t make me feel less skilled.

If what offended you is the skill >> build comment, I apologize, it was ot directed at anyone. Just enforcing that now pvp seems to require more skills to be successful, don’t agree on that?

You don’t even know how your build works. Pro tip – if you hover over the tooltip it will actually tell you how many boons you’re getting. Arrmour of earth gives you 4 boons insantly, something great to have when there are necros running around. On top of that you have EA, EC and other boons. Only two boons? Please read your skills.

You also use tornado, lol.

You have 13K hp, any necro will get through that no problem and no condi clear will save you.

You have absolutely zero clue about your build, you have no clue about the competitive scene and you run to forums saying how much it’s about skill and that you’re so much skilled because you kill hotjoiners. Really?

It doesn’t offend me, it kittenes me off when people like you are on a crusade on forums to make themselves feel better. You’re literally the only person who’s been posting how ele is good now. Mind stop giving them more ideas to nerf the class?

Once again, when you start facing decent people, let me know how much your build works.

lol cause casting Armor of earth before heading a necro is a “Great idea” … once again skills …. playing ele now is more than smashing buttons on availability xD

I guess you are scared of eles getting more nerfs, …. why would they get nerfede is they are now the trash you claim they are… no point on arguing anymore, only time will tell… we can save this topic and come back to see what happened…. … so far I am hanging well againist necros, if you can’t, check your builds.

Edit: is normal to have counters too, noob advice…. avoid engaging combat with them.

Hahahah, so funny. So you’ll just have a dead skill on your bar because there might be no reaper in one game out of 10? Makes sense. And if you read the post, you would know I gave several other examples why your build is loaded with boons.

Yes, because making ele trash tier was justified and needed. The balance team clearly knows what they’re doing.

That’s exactly what people were telling to necros, do not fight eles. Somehow they didn’t like the advice. And it’s not only about necros, ele has basically nothing to offer now. You’re doing fine against necros, because you apparently test builds in hotjoin and then spam forums how good it is. Ridiculous really. Stand agaist a decent necro and you’re dead no matter what you do. Your build generates boons by just playing and that’s something every necro with a brain will punish.

Edit: I don’t even know how I missed you’re using Ether Renewal. I don’t know if i can faceplam enough. Clearly shows what you’re fighting bought the game yesterday.

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

Junkpile.7439

Why you have boons when you fight against necro? Necro make you pay when you try to abuse boon spam.

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Posted by: Pepsi.8907

Pepsi.8907

It doesn’t enforce anything. I saw your build, it uses crapload of boons. Please let me know once you start facing good people and then you realize how easily necro will shut you down.
..snip..

Edit: Went back to your build to see how much you don’t rely on boons.
Elemental Attunement
Elemental Contigency
Soothing Disruption
Soothing Ice
Renewing Stamina

Lol, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

… really: -_-U … they only trigger two boons! Stamina and Regeneration …occasionally prot but doesn’t rely on protection like common ele … Check not only the build to cherry pick to make a point, check usage and see how to deal with necro bombs and condis in general…

For refference the mentioned build is

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Build-Core-ele-is-back/first#post5950782

Ele was already not used much in prolague, now we won’t see any. Are you gonna call those people unskilled, too and say how much better you are because you can kill some hotjoiners? Please.

Never talked about proleague, anywhere!!! I assume you are a proleaguer since you runing like if on fire on several treads calling doom, doom even before changes were anounced. Once again as I post on most of my opinion comments, it’s too soon to make any prediction ….

If I feel skilled because I killed some hotjoiners… yes, I do, not because I killed them, but how and in what conditions I did … died a lot too, doesn’t make me feel less skilled.

If what offended you is the skill >> build comment, I apologize, it was ot directed at anyone. Just enforcing that now pvp seems to require more skills to be successful, don’t agree on that?

You don’t even know how your build works. Pro tip – if you hover over the tooltip it will actually tell you how many boons you’re getting. Arrmour of earth gives you 4 boons insantly, something great to have when there are necros running around. On top of that you have EA, EC and other boons. Only two boons? Please read your skills.

You also use tornado, lol.

You have 13K hp, any necro will get through that no problem and no condi clear will save you.

You have absolutely zero clue about your build, you have no clue about the competitive scene and you run to forums saying how much it’s about skill and that you’re so much skilled because you kill hotjoiners. Really?

It doesn’t offend me, it kittenes me off when people like you are on a crusade on forums to make themselves feel better. You’re literally the only person who’s been posting how ele is good now. Mind stop giving them more ideas to nerf the class?

Once again, when you start facing decent people, let me know how much your build works.

lol cause casting Armor of earth before heading a necro is a “Great idea” … once again skills …. playing ele now is more than smashing buttons on availability xD

I guess you are scared of eles getting more nerfs, …. why would they get nerfede is they are now the trash you claim they are… no point on arguing anymore, only time will tell… we can save this topic and come back to see what happened…. … so far I am hanging well againist necros, if you can’t, check your builds.

Edit: is normal to have counters too, noob advice…. avoid engaging combat with them.

Hahahah, so funny. So you’ll just have a dead skill on your bar because there might be no reaper in one game out of 10? Makes sense. And if you read the post, you would know I gave several other examples why your build is loaded with boons.

Yes, because making ele trash tier was justified and needed. The balance team clearly knows what they’re doing.

That’s exactly what people were telling to necros, do not fight eles. Somehow they didn’t like the advice. And it’s not only about necros, ele has basically nothing to offer now. You’re doing fine against necros, because you apparently test builds in hotjoin and then spam forums how good it is. Ridiculous really. Stand agaist a decent necro and you’re dead no matter what you do. Your build generates boons by just playing and that’s something every necro with a brain will punish.

Not only that, ele has been designed in a way that it IS a class dependant on boons to be remotely viable. Either offensively or defensively. An ele with no boons isn’t worth much while if they stack Boon any necro will just punish them thoroughly
Which also means that at of their skills and mechanics generate boons baseline.
You cannot have an ele without boons, but they are excessively vulnerable to condis due to small HP

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

Why you have boons when you fight against necro? Necro make you pay when you try to abuse boon spam.

I don’t know if you ever realized it but ele defense was always depending on boons, the class needs them in order to survive due to low hp and armour pool. Sure, eles have invuln skills but cooldowns are ridiculously high and it’s really not gonna save you. The only way to avoid using boons againts a necro is not to play ele. Sure, you can play some build that has minimum of boons, but you’ll be dead anyways, so what’s the point?

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

Junkpile.7439

Why you have boons when you fight against necro? Necro make you pay when you try to abuse boon spam.

I don’t know if you ever realized it but ele defense was always depending on boons, the class needs them in order to survive due to low hp and armour pool. Sure, eles have invuln skills but cooldowns are ridiculously high and it’s really not gonna save you. The only way to avoid using boons againts a necro is not to play ele. Sure, you can play some build that has minimum of boons, but you’ll be dead anyways, so what’s the point?

I play ele and i rarely have any boons.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

Why you have boons when you fight against necro? Necro make you pay when you try to abuse boon spam.

I don’t know if you ever realized it but ele defense was always depending on boons, the class needs them in order to survive due to low hp and armour pool. Sure, eles have invuln skills but cooldowns are ridiculously high and it’s really not gonna save you. The only way to avoid using boons againts a necro is not to play ele. Sure, you can play some build that has minimum of boons, but you’ll be dead anyways, so what’s the point?

I play ele and i rarely have any boons.

Good argument, next please.

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Posted by: kuritsutian.2987

kuritsutian.2987

It doesn’t enforce anything. I saw your build, it uses crapload of boons. Please let me know once you start facing good people and then you realize how easily necro will shut you down.
..snip..

Edit: Went back to your build to see how much you don’t rely on boons.
Elemental Attunement
Elemental Contigency
Soothing Disruption
Soothing Ice
Renewing Stamina

Lol, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

… really: -_-U … they only trigger two boons! Stamina and Regeneration …occasionally prot but doesn’t rely on protection like common ele … Check not only the build to cherry pick to make a point, check usage and see how to deal with necro bombs and condis in general…

For refference the mentioned build is

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Build-Core-ele-is-back/first#post5950782

Ele was already not used much in prolague, now we won’t see any. Are you gonna call those people unskilled, too and say how much better you are because you can kill some hotjoiners? Please.

Never talked about proleague, anywhere!!! I assume you are a proleaguer since you runing like if on fire on several treads calling doom, doom even before changes were anounced. Once again as I post on most of my opinion comments, it’s too soon to make any prediction ….

If I feel skilled because I killed some hotjoiners… yes, I do, not because I killed them, but how and in what conditions I did … died a lot too, doesn’t make me feel less skilled.

If what offended you is the skill >> build comment, I apologize, it was ot directed at anyone. Just enforcing that now pvp seems to require more skills to be successful, don’t agree on that?

You don’t even know how your build works. Pro tip – if you hover over the tooltip it will actually tell you how many boons you’re getting. Arrmour of earth gives you 4 boons insantly, something great to have when there are necros running around. On top of that you have EA, EC and other boons. Only two boons? Please read your skills.

You also use tornado, lol.

You have 13K hp, any necro will get through that no problem and no condi clear will save you.

You have absolutely zero clue about your build, you have no clue about the competitive scene and you run to forums saying how much it’s about skill and that you’re so much skilled because you kill hotjoiners. Really?

It doesn’t offend me, it kittenes me off when people like you are on a crusade on forums to make themselves feel better. You’re literally the only person who’s been posting how ele is good now. Mind stop giving them more ideas to nerf the class?

Once again, when you start facing decent people, let me know how much your build works.

lol cause casting Armor of earth before heading a necro is a “Great idea” … once again skills …. playing ele now is more than smashing buttons on availability xD

I guess you are scared of eles getting more nerfs, …. why would they get nerfede is they are now the trash you claim they are… no point on arguing anymore, only time will tell… we can save this topic and come back to see what happened…. … so far I am hanging well againist necros, if you can’t, check your builds.

Edit: is normal to have counters too, noob advice…. avoid engaging combat with them.

Hahahah, so funny. So you’ll just have a dead skill on your bar because there might be no reaper in one game out of 10? Makes sense. And if you read the post, you would know I gave several other examples why your build is loaded with boons.

Yes, because making ele trash tier was justified and needed. The balance team clearly knows what they’re doing.

That’s exactly what people were telling to necros, do not fight eles. Somehow they didn’t like the advice. And it’s not only about necros, ele has basically nothing to offer now. You’re doing fine against necros, because you apparently test builds in hotjoin and then spam forums how good it is. Ridiculous really. Stand agaist a decent necro and you’re dead no matter what you do. Your build generates boons by just playing and that’s something every necro with a brain will punish.

Not a dead skill, just a skill that shouldn’t be used againist necros, do you believe in a meta full of necros? I bet thieves(among others) beg to differ. Besides that, with the patch, matchmaking changes are enforcing the diversity of classes on matches, so don’t think armor of earth will be useless… if on time I happen to be wrong, I will just change it.. don’t see any problem for that..just tunning.

And YESSS a skilled necro can kill me, as a skilled warrior or any other class will… more prooff of importance of skills!

I personally would be more scared of thieves than necros…. but in short if you keep believing ele is trash just reroll necro and see if you can conquer the world with condis.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

It doesn’t enforce anything. I saw your build, it uses crapload of boons. Please let me know once you start facing good people and then you realize how easily necro will shut you down.
..snip..

Edit: Went back to your build to see how much you don’t rely on boons.
Elemental Attunement
Elemental Contigency
Soothing Disruption
Soothing Ice
Renewing Stamina

Lol, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

… really: -_-U … they only trigger two boons! Stamina and Regeneration …occasionally prot but doesn’t rely on protection like common ele … Check not only the build to cherry pick to make a point, check usage and see how to deal with necro bombs and condis in general…

For refference the mentioned build is

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Build-Core-ele-is-back/first#post5950782

Ele was already not used much in prolague, now we won’t see any. Are you gonna call those people unskilled, too and say how much better you are because you can kill some hotjoiners? Please.

Never talked about proleague, anywhere!!! I assume you are a proleaguer since you runing like if on fire on several treads calling doom, doom even before changes were anounced. Once again as I post on most of my opinion comments, it’s too soon to make any prediction ….

If I feel skilled because I killed some hotjoiners… yes, I do, not because I killed them, but how and in what conditions I did … died a lot too, doesn’t make me feel less skilled.

If what offended you is the skill >> build comment, I apologize, it was ot directed at anyone. Just enforcing that now pvp seems to require more skills to be successful, don’t agree on that?

You don’t even know how your build works. Pro tip – if you hover over the tooltip it will actually tell you how many boons you’re getting. Arrmour of earth gives you 4 boons insantly, something great to have when there are necros running around. On top of that you have EA, EC and other boons. Only two boons? Please read your skills.

You also use tornado, lol.

You have 13K hp, any necro will get through that no problem and no condi clear will save you.

You have absolutely zero clue about your build, you have no clue about the competitive scene and you run to forums saying how much it’s about skill and that you’re so much skilled because you kill hotjoiners. Really?

It doesn’t offend me, it kittenes me off when people like you are on a crusade on forums to make themselves feel better. You’re literally the only person who’s been posting how ele is good now. Mind stop giving them more ideas to nerf the class?

Once again, when you start facing decent people, let me know how much your build works.

lol cause casting Armor of earth before heading a necro is a “Great idea” … once again skills …. playing ele now is more than smashing buttons on availability xD

I guess you are scared of eles getting more nerfs, …. why would they get nerfede is they are now the trash you claim they are… no point on arguing anymore, only time will tell… we can save this topic and come back to see what happened…. … so far I am hanging well againist necros, if you can’t, check your builds.

Edit: is normal to have counters too, noob advice…. avoid engaging combat with them.

Hahahah, so funny. So you’ll just have a dead skill on your bar because there might be no reaper in one game out of 10? Makes sense. And if you read the post, you would know I gave several other examples why your build is loaded with boons.

Yes, because making ele trash tier was justified and needed. The balance team clearly knows what they’re doing.

That’s exactly what people were telling to necros, do not fight eles. Somehow they didn’t like the advice. And it’s not only about necros, ele has basically nothing to offer now. You’re doing fine against necros, because you apparently test builds in hotjoin and then spam forums how good it is. Ridiculous really. Stand agaist a decent necro and you’re dead no matter what you do. Your build generates boons by just playing and that’s something every necro with a brain will punish.

Not a dead skill, just a skill that shouldn’t be used againist necros, do you believe in a meta full of necros? I bet thieves(among others) beg to differ. Besides that, with the patch, matchmaking changes are enforcing the diversity of classes on matches, so don’t think armor of earth will be useless… if on time I happen to be wrong, I will just change it.. don’t see any problem for that..just tunning.

And YESSS a skilled necro can kill me, as a skilled warrior or any other class will… more prooff of importance of skills!

I personally would be more scared of thieves than necros…. but in short if you keep believing ele is trash just reroll necro and see if you can conquer the world with condis.

I never once said skilled necro for a good reason. Any necro who read their tooltips will kill ele no matter what.

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Posted by: basz.6129

basz.6129

It’s all based on math, we all know this. The complaining OP is complaining about is just part of mmorpg pvp. It is the same in every game.

Imho, gw2 is exceptionally balanced in comparison to games in the same genre. Whenever I get mad at gw2 pvp, I just log into neverwinter online, queue for one game, and remember I am thankful for gw2. Pvp has metas. Stop whining about the whining and either adapt and overcome, roll a meta toon, or uninstall.

It’s exhausting to scroll through pages of this kitten in search of any legit discussions of pvp.

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Posted by: Reem.3578

Reem.3578

As an Ele can tell that I am hanging on fine, time to adapt and join the skilled play train.

Skills >> Build.

Wow i waited so much time for someone to say this.
+1kkpinkquaggans

“You judge too much with your eyes alone…”

And yes, i play [Teef] :)

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

As an Ele can tell that I am hanging on fine, time to adapt and join the skilled play train.

Skills >> Build.

Wow i waited so much time for someone to say this.
+15kkholyquaggans

Please, read his other posts, too. He clearly said he’s doing fine in hotjoin.

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

Must be fun being thief and necro now.

Don’t worry, there will be another balance patch where arenanet overnerf thief and necro and buff one of the other random classes.

Why? Because they are that incompetent.

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Posted by: Fortus.6175

Fortus.6175

I find it sad that people here are defending the poor state of eles.

In the MMR Im playing Im constantly facing ESL team players such as Adjured and Apex, I’ve got over 4k PvP games, which 52% of them are only elementalist in my belt since release, which means I have both experience and the MMR to back some of my statements when I say: elementalist are in a very poor state right now. Their entire play is arounds boons and active defenses, and right now a fear or two followed by the condi loading and boon convertions is enough to A) get you off the fight for a few seconds until you can heal back up (and hope they dont come after you) , or b) simply die. Well played thieves just demolish us (nothing new) as well in a few seconds.

I highly advice you to talk with some skilled players to get a better perspective on the class, because if thats the build you are playing, which has little synergy and a lot of glaring weaknesses (boon spam is a weakness now), then I can guarantee you that you are in a very low MMR bracket.

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

More likely that their broken specs got balanced. Bye bye bunker mesmer

OMG drop the bunker mes crap… it was just that crap. but it was the only option for mes and now there aren’t any

I bet you’re the kind of person who cried nerf for Warriors and thief when they have only 1 viable build.

5x Warrior, 5x Ranger, 4x Elementalist, 4x Engineer,
4x Necromancer, 3x Mesmer, 4x Guardian, 4x Thief, 4 Revenant

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

More likely that their broken specs got balanced. Bye bye bunker mesmer

OMG drop the bunker mes crap… it was just that crap. but it was the only option for mes and now there aren’t any

I bet you’re the kind of person who cried nerf for Warriors and thief when they have only 1 viable build.

You know, there is a difference between having only one viable build (like most classes) that is too strong and needs to be toned down and not having any viable build to play at all.

No, I don’t play mesmer.

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Posted by: kuritsutian.2987

kuritsutian.2987

As an Ele can tell that I am hanging on fine, time to adapt and join the skilled play train.

Skills >> Build.

Wow i waited so much time for someone to say this.
+15kkholyquaggans

Please, read his other posts, too. He clearly said he’s doing fine in hotjoin.

lol, what’s with the persecution? … said low tiers, …. or do you know someone who has access to ranked pvp right now after the league resset?

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